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Old 09-14-2014, 08:52 PM   #1
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Default Why Seahawks’ vaunted defense couldn’t stop the Chargers

SAN DIEGO --- The defending Super Bowl champion Seahawks brought the most-feared defense in the NFL to San Diego Sunday.

Far from running and hiding, though, the Chargers were happy to invite the Seahawk defense into their home at Qualcomm Stadium and stay awhile.

And ultimately, it was the Seahawks who couldn’t wait to get out of San Diego, on the bad end of a surprising 30-21 loss in which the Chargers ran 75 plays and held the ball for 42 minutes, 15 seconds.

“Really? Damn,’’ defensive end Michael Bennett said later when informed of the time of possession stat as the Seahawks fell to 1-1 on the season.

Seattle’s offense, meanwhile, ran just 40 plays, fighting an uphill battle after the Chargers took a 20-7 lead late in the second quarter.

“We just didn’t have the ball enough,” Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said.

Quarterback Philip Rivers expertly hit his receivers and running backs for short gains, setting up manageable third-down situations that the Chargers were more often than not able to convert — 10 of 17.

And then, having chipped away slowly to get to the end zone, the Chargers were able to get the big plays they needed to pull away. Specifically, three touchdown passes from Rivers to 34-year-old tight end Antonio Gates, one a spectacular one-handed grab. The two have now hooked up for 65 scoring passes, most of any active quarterback-tight end duo in the NFL.

Seattle tried to cover Gates with linebackers, with safety Kam Chancellor, and with zones. But nothing worked as he hauled in seven passes for 96 yards despite battling a sore hamstring.

“He made some great catches,’’ said Seattle linebacker Bobby Wagner. “We felt like we were in a position that if he was a regular tight end, he probably wouldn’t have made the catch.’’

Safety Earl Thomas said the Seahawks knew the Chargers wouldn’t try to go deep much, and none of San Diego’s passes went for longer than 21 yards.

“Teams are always going to be dinking and dunking the ball down the field against us,’’ Thomas said. “It’s been that way since last year. We make them drive and they (opponents) end up making mistakes. But the mistakes they made today, we couldn’t capitalize.’’

Indeed, the Chargers fumbled three times but got them all back.

The Seahawks also had trouble battling the heat — the temperature at kickoff was 94 degrees with 33 percent humidity — but the temperature on the field was about 120 degrees. Thomas, Chancellor and Byron Maxwell all left for a time due to cramps, and Chancellor said it bothered him from the second quarter on.

Seattle couldn’t, losing a game by more than a touchdown for the first time since a 23-13 defeat at Dallas on Nov. 6, 2011, a span of 41 games.

Carroll said the real key to Seattle losing by more than a TD for the first time since 2011, a span of 41 games, was that San Diego was able to consistently get decent gains on first and second downs. That set up third-and-short, and five of San Diego’s third-down conversions were 2 yards or less.

“Rivers is really good at figuring out how to get you a 3- or 4-yard pass,’’ Carroll said.

Seattle, with some depth issues at cornerback due to injuries, played primarily with its base defense early. But the Chargers took advantage of that by getting receivers in favorable matchups with linebackers.

Seattle then went mostly to a nickel in the second half, but the Chargers countered by running more. Twenty-two of its 37 carries came in the second half.

It was all enough to silence normally loquacious Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman. Sherman declined to talk to reporters after the game, dressing and leaving quickly.

Unlike the opener against Green Bay, he Chargers had no trepidation, throwing the ball his way. According to the play-by-play, Sherman was on the defending end of five San Diego receptions. Sherman later wrote on Twitter that he allowed three.

Regardless, the Chargers made their point.

“He’s just a normal guy,’’ said San Diego receiver Keenan Allen, who had five catches for 55 yards, two against Sherman. “We can go at him. We are not going to shy away from him. He’s not really a shutdown corner. We definitely wanted to come out and show we could go anyway we wanted and that we were in control of the game. Wherever we wanted to go with it, we were going to go with it.’’

Without the ball
The Seahawks’ couldn’t overcome a huge 42:15 to 17:45 disadvantage in time of possession.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:53 PM   #2
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Seattle is a good team on the road, but not all world. At home they are a diff story
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:56 PM   #3
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Looks like their coach had a great plan to stop the Seahawks and he trusted his defense enough to get the job done. Congrats to San Diego and hope we learned something from them. I just don't think our offense is geared that way.
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It's the exact gameplan KC came in to Denver with. Dink and dunk, Hold the ball, shorten the game. It's a common strategy teams employ against a superior opponent. Worked like a charm for both teams. Difference was, Denver was able to meek more plays on both sides of the ball and came out with a tougher than it should've been win.
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the chargers defense showed up...huh. I wonder what that's like
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Old 09-14-2014, 09:09 PM   #6
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They hadnt lost by more than 7 points since 2011? Thats pretty amazing
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:43 PM   #7
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I can't imagine being a defender on the field in 120 heat for 42:15!
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:51 PM   #8
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Chargers fans are going to be as annoying as **** after our upcoming game in Seattle.
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:54 PM   #9
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Chargers fans are going to be as annoying as **** after our upcoming game in Seattle.
The ones I come across know its uphill for them no matter what the outcome is. I'd wonder if that game is played in seattle do chargers still win?
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Chargers fans are going to be as annoying as **** after our upcoming game in Seattle.
To be honest the Charger poster's on this board are a lot better than most of the Denver fans here. They can at least call it like it is and the homerism is below the normal.
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Maybe the Broncos win?

Unless you're in Cali, there aren't many charger fans out there, including this board.
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The Chargers went at the Seattle defense..thats it.. I watched the game..they showed no fear as they said they would not. Totally showed Sherman hes not all that. In truth the 1st 7 that Seattle got should not have even been given. not a Charger fan but my hats off to them because they took it to them..
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The Chargers went at the Seattle defense..thats it.. I watched the game..they showed no fear as they said they would not. Totally showed Sherman hes not all that. In truth the 1st 7 that Seattle got should not have even been given. not a Charger fan but my hats off to them because they took it to them..
They made plays.

Short 3rd down conversions , recovered their own fumbles/didn't turn the ball over, and kept the Seattle O on the sidelines.
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Old 09-14-2014, 11:29 PM   #14
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The Chargers went at the Seattle defense..thats it.. I watched the game..they showed no fear as they said they would not. Totally showed Sherman hes not all that. In truth the 1st 7 that Seattle got should not have even been given. not a Charger fan but my hats off to them because they took it to them..
Good point.
A lot of teams prepare to play away from the Seattle defensive stars. I feel SD faced them head on and won the battle...
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didn't see the game,but when holding the ball that long it's usually because of success running the ball. Something were not too good at.
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:09 AM   #16
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Meh, Seattle is 14-19 on the road under Carrol. If not for an almost guaranteed 8-0 record at home they would be a wild-card team at best.
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:11 AM   #17
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Good point.
A lot of teams prepare to play away from the Seattle defensive stars. I feel SD faced them head on and won the battle...
The Chargers won the same way the beat us last year. Long sustained drives, minimal risk, and forcing the other team to make plays. The Chargers are a very well coached team with few or no glaring weaknesses, at home especially they are a match for anyone in the league.
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:47 AM   #18
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The Chargers won the same way the beat us last year. Long sustained drives, minimal risk, and forcing the other team to make plays. The Chargers are a very well coached team with few or no glaring weaknesses, at home especially they are a match for anyone in the league.
Remember when everyone hated Mike McCoy. Said he was a product of Manning, had no imagination. Kind of funny he has his team playing discipline and sound football.

Don't get me wrong I like our Current OC, but some of that discipline would be nice. Team wide
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Remember when everyone hated Mike McCoy. Said he was a product of Manning, had no imagination. Kind of funny he has his team playing discipline and sound football.

Don't get me wrong I like our Current OC, but some of that discipline would be nice. Team wide
People hated McCoy for his gameday play-calling, not his leadership or scheme.
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It's all irrelevant if we consistency can't get off the field on 3rd and 15, 3rd and 18 situations.

Our Offense might get 4-5 attempts to score, what our scoring percentage on possessions? It better be good.
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The Chargers won the same way the beat us last year. Long sustained drives, minimal risk, and forcing the other team to make plays. The Chargers are a very well coached team with few or no glaring weaknesses, at home especially they are a match for anyone in the league.
Yup. And the way KC controlled us yesterday you have to be at least a little concerned about this considerably better Chargers team.
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Seattle got dominated. They didn't play that bad they just plain got beat. The bright side for Seattle is a good Chargers team played a nearly perfect game and yet the Seahawks had a chance to win at the end. Now you guys get a pissed off Seattle team at home it will be interesting to see how this game goes. Lastly Sherman can shut up about being the best cornerback in the league at least for a while.
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the chargers defense showed up...huh. I wonder what that's like
Hey, our D only gave up 10 points through 3 quarters yesterday and 17 total for the game. I'll take that every week.
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Hey, our D only gave up 10 points through 3 quarters yesterday and 17 total for the game. I'll take that every week.
In theory, yes. The problem is we let a mediocre KC offense keep our offense off the field. What happens when we get controlled like this by a better team? We're about to find out.
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In theory, yes. The problem is we let a mediocre KC offense keep our offense off the field. What happens when we get controlled like this by a better team? We're about to find out.
I think it's safe to say that yesterday was an aberration and never again will we have 327 penalties, all seemingly on 3rd downs to extend drives. Take away just a few of those (and take away that BS illegal man downfield that negated a 50 yard gain earlier in the game for us) and we win by at least 2-3 scores pretty easily.
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