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Old 01-31-2014, 02:59 PM   #26
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They don't have a dominant defensive line. It's not in the top 5 of teams we played this season.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:02 PM   #27
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Am I reading this right? That they give up way more vs the no huddle?
Well, the first observation is how little of it they have faced, only 69 snaps. but, yes, They have not performed as well against no huddle. 2nd highest yards per rush (first is out of shotgun, which is most likely a good portion of these no huddle snaps). Highest yards per attempted pass given up, and highest QB rating. Also, best TD/INT ratio.

It's a very small sample size, but that is a good thing for the Broncos in that they haven't faced it hardly at all, and when they did they struggled.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:07 PM   #28
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You never know what happens in football games, fumbles, picks, etc, but if its a pretty clean game, this will be the story of why the Broncos offense has success. Youre facing a D that relies on subbing and is NOT used to playing at a fast pace with an offense that has mastered a no-huddle fast paced led by a Peyton Manning that has had two weeks to find weakness in your zone.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:09 PM   #29
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This is the thing lots of analysts arent talking about and im not sure why.
Because they aren't that great?
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:20 PM   #30
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Between the no-huddle and the fact that their defense is relatively simple to read pre-snap, I really don't get how anyone could think this matchup is favorable to their defense. They have a lot of great players on defense, so we probably don't light them up for 40+, but in terms of X's and O's it does not look good for them.
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Well, the first observation is how little of it they have faced, only 69 snaps. but, yes, They have not performed as well against no huddle. 2nd highest yards per rush (first is out of shotgun, which is most likely a good portion of these no huddle snaps). Highest yards per attempted pass given up, and highest QB rating. Also, best TD/INT ratio.

It's a very small sample size, but that is a good thing for the Broncos in that they haven't faced it hardly at all, and when they did they struggled.
This is probably because they have faced it while in a prevent defense making the stats worthless.
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This is probably because they have faced it while in a prevent defense making the stats worthless.
Does not discount the fact that they have seen very little of it.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:34 PM   #33
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Does not discount the fact that they have seen very little of it.
That is true.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:20 PM   #34
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Honestly I think the Payed-a-Ton no huddle is the best way to best the Squawks defense.
Their front four are respectable but by no means impressive.

You keep those talented athletes in the secondary running around all game long and they'll tire.

Manning use to do it in Indi where he'd audible and then send 3 deep and hand off. Not because they needed a deep play, not to trick them into a run, just to make those guys in the secondary run so they were tired when he did need that big bomb...


Nice take from a Chefs fan.

Serious question. Since you saw the reality of a so called GREAT defense dropping into middle of the road when it started playing better offenses what is your take for this game ?

Serious question, no offense meant.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:32 PM   #35
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One thing Peyton is is patient . He learn from the first NE game not to rely totally on a running game the other team is giving you but The No Huddle should eliminate either Mebane or Bryant from the equation and depending on how SEA wants to cover open up the running lanes.
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They don't have a dominant defensive line. It's not in the top 5 of teams we played this season.
Which is why I prefer the NASCAR package they use on passing downs. I don't think even they are good enough to get to Manning with 4 rushers. He throws the ball too quick, our lineman playing too well.

Get that small unit out there and run it down their throats until the have no choice but to put a safety in the BOX.

After that it's Manning time.
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:27 PM   #38
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If Seattle has to choose a unit to stay on the field vs the no huddle, I suspect they might try to compromise, putting their run stoppers on the Vasquez/Franklin side and their pass rushers vs. Beadles and Clark.

From what I recall off the top of my head, most of Denver's running success has come on the right side of that O-Line. And if there is any guy they'd want to test against a pass rush, it would probably be Clark.

The one thing I'm fairly sure about is that they will not leave their "fat guys" in the game against the no-huddle. They have to know that if they don't get pressure on Manning, its over no matter who they have in the secondary.
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If Seattle has to choose a unit to stay on the field vs the no huddle, I suspect they might try to compromise, putting their run stoppers on the Vasquez/Franklin side and their pass rushers vs. Beadles and Clark.

From what I recall off the top of my head, most of Denver's running success has come on the right side of that O-Line. And if there is any guy they'd want to test against a pass rush, it would probably be Clark.

The one thing I'm fairly sure about is that they will not leave their "fat guys" in the game against the no-huddle. They have to know that if they don't get pressure on Manning, its over no matter who they have in the secondary.
Here is the hole in that theory. It's 3rd and 1, Broncos are at the 50 yrd line. Seattle has to put in the short yardage unit. If we convert boom we go no huddle. It's hard to know when the Broncos will go no huddle so almost impossibe to prepare for it. You just have to wing it when it happens and wait until you stop them to substitute.
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In your hypothetical, the fat guys sometimes win the battle on 3d and 1 (or else the pass fails), so that takes care of about half of it.

The other half is that you either injure one of the Broncos with a cheap shot (ask Wolfe about that), or have one of the fat guys fake an injury on the next play.
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They don't have a dominant defensive line. It's not in the top 5 of teams we played this season.
I am curious as to the at least 5 defensive lines that you played that were better than Seattle's.
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:16 PM   #42
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Honestly I think the Payed-a-Ton no huddle is the best way to best the Squawks defense.
Their front four are respectable but by no means impressive.

You keep those talented athletes in the secondary running around all game long and they'll tire.

Manning use to do it in Indi where he'd audible and then send 3 deep and hand off. Not because they needed a deep play, not to trick them into a run, just to make those guys in the secondary run so they were tired when he did need that big bomb...
Worth every penny too. I suspect you'd feel he was worth it too if you had the opportunity to win a superbowl
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:29 PM   #43
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Honestly I think the Payed-a-Ton no huddle is the best way to best the Squawks defense.
Their front four are respectable but by no means impressive.
! Stupid Chiefs fan still referring Manning as Payed-a-Ton like it was so wrong to do so. Hey idiot, we are in the SB because of Peyton. What a big ****ing retard. I am not sure if KCDud would go this route.
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:43 PM   #44
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I think the no-huddle will cause sawks problems. From what I can garner, they have 2 distinctly dif D-lines and one is very good at rushing and the other is very good at stopping the run. But neither is that good in the other role. And I think it is more than likely that PFM is aware of this.

Makes me think that we will see some drives that feature runs and fast crossing patterns and others that will see longer developing plays to hit deep. And the way sawks play D they are susceptible to big plays if the QB is given time - the way I understand it is they hit receivers at the line and then retreat to a 3 zone. That works ok if there is not enough time for the QB, but it is very dangerous if there is time because it is much easier to get behind a press D coverage.

Anyways, very excited! very nervous! Dang just get the game here!!!

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Old 01-31-2014, 09:14 PM   #45
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I'm really looking forward to seeing this unfold on the field, and what seattle will do to combat it. I want to see a gassed out hawk defense in the fourth quarter with no answer for the no-huddle.
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