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Old 01-23-2014, 12:10 PM   #26
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Denver's Offense >>>>>>>> Oakland's Offense
Tampa's Defense >>> Seattle's Defense

Yeah, great point.
It was easier to have great defensive stats in those days because offenses were more conservative and defenses got away with more. If you don't "get" that I'm not sorry.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:12 PM   #27
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What are you 12? Vegas could care less how much they make. They only worry about how much they can lose.

Once too much money goes on one team they change the spread to get money going the other way. Vegas makes money almost no matter what.
Thanks bud I know how it works.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:13 PM   #28
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If the Broncos oline keeps Manning clear in the middle he will eat up your secondary no matter how good they are. The WR and TE are too good and you can only cover someone so long.

If it's like the Ravens game last yr in the playoffs we probably lose. But that yr we didn't have Vasquez and Ramariz starting together inside.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:13 PM   #29
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Thanks bud I know how it works.
Obviously you didn't and everyone could tell.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:14 PM   #30
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Thanks bud I know how it works.
Also the crowd will be pro denver by quite a bit. Our fans travel more and we have more fans nationwide.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:19 PM   #31
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Seattle defense will be all, so this is what its like when a QB always gets into the best play at the LOS. They are used to it being so loud the QB can't do it. They did better on the road this yr but still 2 losses and wins over crappy teams.

They lost to indy and san fran on the road, the 2 best teams they played outside of the Panthers who they beat in week 1. At that time Panthers were starting very slow.

The gave up 20 points to the texans, lol, cmon we will put 40 on you if you play like that.

the closest offense is Indy. They rang you up for 34 points. best defense ever. Give me a break. Give me a ****ing break.

The Cards put up 22 on you in a loss but cmon they stink. Then you beat the Rams and the Falcons lol.

Ummm get ready to have the Broncos throw 30 points on you. Seattle needs the home field to function at full force. The Broncos can throw short, they can throw deep, they can run the ball, and they can do it on the road.
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Old 01-23-2014, 12:28 PM   #32
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This Seahawks defense is clearly one of the best of all time... Plenty of evidence.
And they've accomplished it in an era where throwing for 4000 yards is no longer impressive.
Lets not get carried away. Every year somebody has to have the No. 1 defense. This year it's the Seahawks. But lets not start talking best of all time. I give them a lot of credit for being really good, but your statement makes you look like a huge homer.
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Obviously you didn't and everyone could tell.
Problem is believe everything you're told. Do some research on the deeper insights of sports betting.. Of course you won't, you'll just retort back with some other uneducated drivel. When it comes to money, nothing is as it looks.
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Lets not get carried away. Every year somebody has to have the No. 1 defense. This year it's the Seahawks. But lets not start talking best of all time. I give them a lot of credit for being really good, but your statement makes you look like a huge homer.
So if they shut down the best statistical passing game of all time enroute to a Superbowl will that change your mind?
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Seattles defense is good. Amazing. But not amongst the best of all time- even considering this is the age of the passing offense.
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Quick question. Over the last decade, how many times has the NFL's top ranked defense hoisted the Lombardi?
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Seattles defense is good. Amazing. But not amongst the best of all time- even considering this is the age of the passing offense.
Actually, it is. People that are paid to do analytics on such things agree. With me.
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Quick question. Over the last decade, how many times has the NFL's top ranked defense hoisted the Lombardi?
Just because our defense is number one doesn't mean we can't score.
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Quick question. Over the last decade, how many times has the NFL's top ranked defense hoisted the Lombardi?
zero ot twice....no more than that.
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Actually, it is. People that are paid to do analytics on such things agree. With me.
Good thing with the Broncos we don't need any "analytics" to spin the stats to our liking.

No team in NFL history has scored more points than the Denver Broncos. EVER.
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Actually, it is. People that are paid to do analytics on such things agree. With me.
Confirmed. KCdud.
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Just because our defense is number one doesn't mean we can't score.
Just because our Offense is the best of all time doesn't mean we can't defend.
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Actually, it is. People that are paid to do analytics on such things agree. With me.


K, I'll bite.


How?

What are some of the best all time? 85 bears. '00 ravens. '05 bucs?



Where and why do you fall in line?
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K, I'll bite.


How?

What are some of the best all time? 85 bears. '00 ravens. '05 bucs?



Where and why do you fall in line?
2013 Chiefs...

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Just because our Offense is the best of all time doesn't mean we can't defend.
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Yards peyton throws in the first half?

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Closer to 39.9. He won't crack 100 yards in the first half.
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Quick question. Over the last decade, how many times has the NFL's top ranked defense hoisted the Lombardi?
Twice? Are we counting until 2000? if not then from 2004 I would guess ZERO.
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Good thing with the Broncos we don't need any "analytics" to spin the stats to our liking.

No team in NFL history has scored more points than the Denver Broncos. EVER.
Actually the 1950 rams scored 38.83 ppg. We clock in at 37.87 ppg. But yeah, ouside of that....
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