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Old 12-29-2013, 10:59 AM   #76
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Talk about a stellar career
Why don't you just say what's on your mind.....

You hated the Oz pick....and for some reason you think it's a good time to bring it all up again.

Brock at this moment is Schrodinger's cat....

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Old 12-29-2013, 11:04 AM   #77
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the amazing thing is he asks for an example of it happening, and then tries to find all kinds of qualifiers to discredit the examples given.

The Cowboys had Don Meredith, and yet they drafted Roger Staubach and Craig Morton (5th overall in '65) who both ended up leading the Cowboys to the SB

The Vikings drafted Brad Johnson, who didn't throw a pass until '94 and didn't become their part time starter until '96 and he won a SB.

He acts as if making the Pro Bowl is more important than making it to the playoffs, or winning a playoff game or making to the SB or winning the SB.


All those examples are 40 yrs old? It's a totally different league now.

Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl playing with one of the best defenses ever. He had a very avg career. And only sat 2 yrs

Dude my original argument was guys who sat for several years and made multiple pro bowls.

Also teams don't win Super Bowls anymore without elite abs.
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the amazing thing is he asks for an example of it happening, and then tries to find all kinds of qualifiers to discredit the examples given.

The Cowboys had Don Meredith, and yet they drafted Roger Staubach and Craig Morton (5th overall in '65) who both ended up leading the Cowboys to the SB

The Vikings drafted Brad Johnson, who didn't throw a pass until '94 and didn't become their part time starter until '96 and he won a SB.

He acts as if making the Pro Bowl is more important than making it to the playoffs, or winning a playoff game or making to the SB or winning the SB.
One of the most lopsided threads in awhile. Hell, we only agree on something once every few years lol
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All those examples are 40 yrs old? It's a totally different league now.

Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl playing with one of the best defenses ever. He had a very avg career. And only sat 2 yrs

Dude my original argument was guys who sat for several years and made multiple pro bowls.

Also teams don't win Super Bowls anymore without elite abs.
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Also teams don't win Super Bowls anymore without elite abs.
Very important to work on the abdominal muscles.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:07 AM   #81
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You chose probably the worst way to make a thread about still being upset about a draft that happened two years ago. You're getting totally owned in here lol
So you think the Brock pick was a good one or not?
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #82
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One of the most lopsided threads in awhile. Hell, we only agree on something once every few years lol
Ha, I was thinking the same thing. If Errand and I agree on something, someone else is trying to argue that the sky doesn't appear to be blue.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #83
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All those examples are 40 yrs old? It's a totally different league now.

You asked for an example of it ever happening....



Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl playing with one of the best defenses ever. He had a very avg career. And only sat 2 yrs

He sat longer than 2 years...hell he didn't even throw a pass until he was in league for two seasons and it took two more for him to become the starter....and who cares how he won the SB? The fact is he won it.

Dude my original argument was guys who sat for several years and made multiple pro bowls.

And when given numerous examples of it, you poo-pooed them as being too old

Also teams don't win Super Bowls anymore without elite abs.

I'm sure you meant QB's, not abs, but let me remind you that you just said Brad Johnson was an average QB....and he won one

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Old 12-29-2013, 11:31 AM   #84
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I'm confused, is the point of this game for you to ask us a question, us to answer it and then for you to shoot all of our answers down because it's not the EXACT same situation as Oz?

Time to get over a draft that was 2 years ago. Of course Elway hedged his bets. That's his job. That's what a good GM does: puts his team in a position to win with an eye on the future. QB, as we have all seen, is the most premium position in the league and there are no guarantees ever in the NFL or the draft, so John is going to keep taking them until we get the right guy to replace Manning when he retires or gets re-injured. Just because a message board guy has declared that Manning will play until he's 45 doesn't mean it's happening, and if Elway is doing his job right, we will have a guy to step into that position when it doesn't and keep us winning football games.
Thank you! Let's all start threads and ask a question and then tell everyone they are wrong when they provide valid points against our argument. It's genius.

The **** is going on with these stupid ass threads lately?
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So you think the Brock pick was a good one or not?
You should have just said what your real point was in your OP. My money is on "we need to draft my favorite QB who is in this coming draft." I really hope it's not just another thread whining about the Brock selection in lieu of "other players who could have helped us now" because that Horse was beaten dead 18 months ago.
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Teams don't win anymore without elite abs. It's a new league these days.
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All those examples are 40 yrs old?
I'm not sure the op was specific enough.

Over the past <40 years, how many 7'4" backup QBs went on to have a HOF career after riding pine for several years behind a QB named Manning?
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I'm still waiting for an example of a team who signs a qb to a 5+ yr deal then drafts a qb in the 1st or 2nd round the same offseason? This was the argument in my first post and I haven't been given an example yet. Twist the **** all you want you ****ing dopers.
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We drafted a backup in the 2nd and its now a wasted pick. Spin it how ever you like but that **** is absolute fact b****es.
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All those examples are 40 yrs old? It's a totally different league now.

Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl playing with one of the best defenses ever. He had a very avg career. And only sat 2 yrs

Dude my original argument was guys who sat for several years and made multiple pro bowls.

Also teams don't win Super Bowls anymore without elite abs.
True, core strength is necessary to excel in athletics
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We drafted a backup in the 2nd and its now a wasted pick. Spin it how ever you like but that **** is absolute fact b****es.
Thanks for several pages of wasting everyone's time to make this two year old point. At least this thread gave us a new meme.
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We drafted a backup in the 2nd and its now a wasted pick. Spin it how ever you like but that **** is absolute fact b****es.
dude, you should really just have bumped a thread from about 1 and a half years ago and just given a +1 to one of the many posts that said this exact same thing.

It wouldn't make this argument right, but it would have saved a lot of typing.
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I'm still waiting for an example of a team who signs a qb to a 5+ yr deal then drafts a qb in the 1st or 2nd round the same offseason? This was the argument in my first post and I haven't been given an example yet. Twist the **** all you want you ****ing dopers.
You've been given nearly 100 examples. You yourself compared Manning to Montana, SF spent a 2nd and a 4th for a backup to Montana. Of course that's "different" because of one of the million qualifiers you need to add.
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Mallet was a high pick for the Pats while Brady was under contract and then received a 3 year extension

Rivers was drafted and the Chargers offered Brees a 5 year 50 million contract the same season.
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Mallet was a high pick for the Pats while Brady was under contract and then received a 3 year extension

Rivers was drafted and the Chargers offered Brees a 5 year 50 million contract the same season.
Doesn't count. They don't have elite abs.
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You've been given nearly 100 examples. You yourself compared Manning to Montana, SF spent a 2nd and a 4th for a backup to Montana. Of course that's "different" because of one of the million qualifiers you need to add.
What a dummy you are. Do they not teach reading comprehensive where ever the **** you're from?
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What a dummy you are. Do they not teach reading comprehensive where ever the **** you're from?
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also, the thread title has a superfluous apostrophe
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Doesn't count. They don't have elite abs.
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He didn't sign.

Again. It's called reading comprehension.
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What a dummy you are. Do they not teach reading comprehensive where ever the **** you're from?
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