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Old 12-07-2013, 05:57 PM   #301
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:02 PM   #302
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lets see if champ is up to the challenge come thursday night !
Totally, clearly he needs to run a 40.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #303
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you know, the only person I've seen in this thread declaring Champ to be the third best defender on the team is someone with 45 career posts, who joined the OM sometime last month, and hasn't posted since. Is this really the windmill to tilt against?
Last year Champ was probably our 2nd most important defender. Woodyard has passed him up but he still played better LAST YEAR than any of our corners have played this year. He isn't playing like that right now but Miller also was not close to being our best defender his first game back, and that was a suspension not injury.

Again, unless his foot injury has permanently damaged his brain, Champ is still our best corner when healthy and in game shape. Which hasn't been the case this year and may not ever be the case this year.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:16 PM   #304
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Please list for me the names of players who have ever come back from significant lost playing time due to injury or suspension -- in "football shape". Hint: Von Miller wasn't in "football shape" when he came back earlier in the year; it took him a couple of weeks to perform at the level most of us expected. Why would there be higher expectations for Champ than for Von?

I don't think you can name even one player who was instantly back in "football shape" in his first game back after injury/suspension.
Possibly a kicker?
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #305
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how many more illiterate morons do we have to suffer through who mistake their idiocy for iconoclasm?

they're like the sith. every time one falls another rises to take his place.
Are you saying spider and/or baja have risen?
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:28 PM   #306
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:49 PM   #307
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it was at this point champ realized it too and came up with a tummy ache and left the field.
I'm not saying you're stupid...but, wouldn't you have to be?
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:58 PM   #308
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I'm not saying you're stupid...but, wouldn't you have to be?
Yes he would.

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I don't think you can name even one player who was instantly back in "football shape" in his first game back after injury/suspension.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:04 PM   #310
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Dude was at about 60% in the Steelers game.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:08 PM   #311
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I am super happy I read through this thread.


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Old 12-07-2013, 08:16 PM   #312
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I am super happy I read through this thread.


It certainly was a life changer for me. I learned about the butterfly effect (twice).
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:21 PM   #313
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I really don't like smartass people who come in a thread and say this but this time it is truly called for.............

"Stupidest thread of all time"
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:02 PM   #314
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I really don't like smartass people who come in a thread and say this but this time it is truly called for.............

"Stupidest thread of all time"
Actually, it was a good discussion. But some people got butthurt because Champ was getting picked on. The Denver Post article stated Champ was part of a "mutual decision" to pull him out of the game at KC. And Champ is listed as "questionable" for tomorrows game.
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It certainly was a life changer for me. I learned about the butterfly effect (twice).

As did I.

If they included a lesson on how magnets work, my entire life paradigm would have shifted. Thank God they did not cover the existence of objective reality. My head would have exploded.


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Old 12-08-2013, 12:40 AM   #316
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Already addressed with Chef Luigi how there's a difference between a player who comes back from an injury or suspension the next season with a full training camp and preseason in which to get back into football shape -- and one who returns (like Von did and Champ is) in the middle of the season. It's unrealistic to expect instantaneous perfection in play in the latter situation. Von Miller wasn't the dominating LB we're used to in his first game back but somehow some people expect Champ to have been absolutely perfect -- a flawless performance -- last week. It's ludicrous.
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Already addressed with Chef Luigi how there's a difference between a player who comes back from an injury or suspension the next season with a full training camp and preseason in which to get back into football shape -- and one who returns (like Von did and Champ is) in the middle of the season. It's unrealistic to expect instantaneous perfection in play in the latter situation. Von Miller wasn't the dominating LB we're used to in his first game back but somehow some people expect Champ to have been absolutely perfect -- a flawless performance -- last week. It's ludicrous.


Well in fairness you said "first game back after injury/suspension"....

You did not add the qualifier of "mid season" until examples were given....
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:56 AM   #318
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I know what you do like: periods.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:40 AM   #319
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Champ isn't really hurt he just setting himself up to win most improved player next year. Checkmate you ****heads

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Old 12-08-2013, 06:58 AM   #320
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I love Peyton here in Denver but he did not hit the ground running. 2-3 record to begin the season. 3 INT in 1 quarter against the Falcons. Took him about 6 weeks until he was playing at a high level on a consistent basis.
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I love Peyton here in Denver but he did not hit the ground running. 2-3 record to begin the season. 3 INT in 1 quarter against the Falcons. Took him about 6 weeks until he was playing at a high level on a consistent basis.
19-26-253 yards 2 TD's says otherwise.....and the team was going thru a bit of a learning curve during that 2-3 start. I understand it takes awhile to get back to normal for athletes coming off injury, and I agree Champ will need a few more games to get back into game day shape....but again Blue's statement was "first game back after injury"

Peyton was his normal self in his first game back after injury
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I love Peyton here in Denver but he did not hit the ground running. 2-3 record to begin the season. 3 INT in 1 quarter against the Falcons. Took him about 6 weeks until he was playing at a high level on a consistent basis.
Peyton hit the ground running. He had one bad quarter against Atlanta but was on a high level since the injury.
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Peyton doesn't have to chase 22 year old kids around the field. Comparing QB-CB doesn't really compute. We can see a 40 yr old QB on the field. Can't see a 40 yr old CB. This **** is win now. Champ is part of a CB core that cannot play man if the top CB goes down. If champ is healthy I want to see him on the field over jammer and Webster. At the end of the year im sure the team and champ will evaluate their futures. Retirement is certainly a logical option at this stage.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:25 AM   #325
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Peyton doesn't have to chase 22 year old kids around the field. Comparing QB-CB doesn't really compute. We can see a 40 yr old QB on the field. Can't see a 40 yr old CB. This **** is win now. Champ is part of a CB core that cannot play man if the top CB goes down. If champ is healthy I want to see him on the field over jammer and Webster. At the end of the year im sure the team and champ will evaluate their futures. Retirement is certainly a logical option at this stage.
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