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Old 12-01-2013, 08:51 PM   #101
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OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.



I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!



You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.
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Old 12-01-2013, 08:52 PM   #102
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OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.



I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!



You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.
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Old 12-01-2013, 08:54 PM   #103
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Old 12-01-2013, 08:55 PM   #104
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I saw the bold part and laughed.

You call a 3 game losing streak giving up 103 (76 of them AT HOME, plus the 1000 yards of O) jelling?

There is a reason Reid did not push the ball down field early in the year, it is because his QB is inconsistent downfield and his receivers cannot catch the ball. You guys need a ton of talent and your limited in the draft without that 2nd round pick this year. kFc is going to have to draft in the mid 20's and after paying Bowe $56 mill to drop more passes than he catches kFc is going to be hard pressed to land any big FA's this year. Plus they will not be able to draft a QB to develop for the future. At best case Reid trades down out of the 1st for 2 2nd round picks but will he find a couple WR's and TE as well as OL depth, CB (you know now that Coopers days are numbered) and some Safety depth. All while playing a tougher schedule next year.

There is a reason Manning didn't even visit, he saw the talent pool and kept listening to Elway talk.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:01 PM   #105
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Why do we give a **** about KC...they can wallow in their BBQ sauce and Meth... they go 10-6 and dont make the playoffs.
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OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.



I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!



You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.
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I found a nice tune that grants some repose to the moment.

Go to 1:57 of the song, and with that I wish all in Kansas City well until we see you next year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQiGv3G6wow
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KFC Jelling? That must be some good hillbilly heroin.

KFC is collapsing.

On Defense: Facing legit offenses with actual NFL quarterbacks they are getting gashed. A couple injuries are not helping the last two games, but they started the slide well before the injuries happened.

On Offense: Even against a massively depleted Denver D, KFC was only able to put up 21 points in offense (with 7 coming on a very short field). At Home

Only thing left that's any real threat on the KFC squad is the special teams.
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Chiefs biggest problem is a crappy WR core, without a number 1 to build around, and an average qb who will probably never put up top 10 number threw the air without great WR and a great oline.

Fisher? jury is out on him. As for Albert and the rest of line I'm sort of on the fence. They aren't ****ty, not saying that, but they certainly are not dominant.

Charles is awesome but needs more playmakers to help him out. I'm not convinced the passing game can get to where it needs to be by next yr. They IMO need a true stud at WR and Bowe isn't it. TE is avg, QB is avg and the oline needs to be a lot better. It's no lock.

It took the Broncos 4 yrs or so to put together DT/Decker/Thomas/Moreno/Welker. Obviously they got lucky on Manning but the team did a lot of work putting together the skill players he has.
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Only in queefland can you lose 3 in a row to division rivals and have it not be a total disaster. I think almost any team in the NFL could beat the Chiefs. They just aren't dominant in any area really. they could lose 7 straight and miss playoffs and I would only be a little surprised.
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Chief WR are crap. Avery is only a special teamer 4th wr bkup/slot guy. McLuster a role player/special team player who could be decent with 3 great WR in front of him. Bowe just not a leader, not a great football player, not someone you want to try to roll out as your number 1 WR. he may have had the size and talent but if Queefs count on him again next yr all they do is waste another yr at WR on offense. They need a true number 1 WR and a consistent playmaker at the 2 spot as well. Then at TE it doesn't look like they have a great player either. Lot's to still do in KC to get the offense up to the big boy level.
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Chief WR are crap. Avery is only a special teamer 4th wr bkup/slot guy. McLuster a role player/special team player who could be decent with 3 great WR in front of him.

Bowe just not a leader, not a great football player, not someone you want to try to roll out as your number 1 WR. he may have had the size and talent but if Queefs count on him again next yr all they do is waste another yr at WR on offense.

They need a true number 1 WR and a consistent playmaker at the 2 spot as well. Then at TE it doesn't look like they have a great player either. Lot's to still do in KC to get the offense up to the big boy level.
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Queefs will lose to Skins, Indy, Chargers and beat the Raiders. 10-6.
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Queefs will lose to Skins, Indy, Chargers and beat the Raiders. 10-6.
I would be pleasantly shocked if they lost to the Skins. The Skins are a really bad team right now. Bad passing game, bad defense. Just plain bad.

Indy is shaky, but get good in some games, you never know. Ditto with the chargers.

The raiders, well, they are the raiders.
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I think the skins matchup decent with the queefs, and in DC will give them a tough game.
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Honestly you guys had a lot go your way. You got the turnovers. The return. Several starters injured. Even a starter who practiced all week and got sick right before the flight. The Chiefs had the table set. Even at the end of the game, Reid used his timeouts well and you finally forced a punt. Given your situation missing players, you had more than a fair shot. It was a game you had to win too.

The Chiefs are a 8-8 or 9-7 that got incredibly lucky facing basically a backup QB every week, barely winning. Now they're playing starters and they've been exposed.
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Honestly you guys had a lot go your way. You got the turnovers. The return. Several starters injured. Even a starter who practiced all week and got sick right before the flight. The Chiefs had the table set. Even at the end of the game, Reid used his timeouts well and you finally forced a punt. Given your situation missing players, you had more than a fair shot. It was a game you had to win too.

The Chiefs are a 8-8 or 9-7 that got incredibly lucky facing basically a backup QB every week, barely winning. Now they're playing starters and they've been exposed.
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OKay, I know you are smarter than this, stop and think about this for a minute.



I'll try to answer these first....

We did, but turnovers are a product of teams being prepared and either a team executing or not, it's part of the game. It's just you guys were banged up more for this game. I don't consider this KC team to be deep, depth wise in year # 1 of Reid & Dorsey! But we will get there in time.

How is Wolfe ?

We did not, we had Reid! 1st thing up, we up 21 - 7, we don't pound the ball? Instead we do was Reid does, pass, even with below average WR's who can't catch the ball ? We don't milk the clock each precession and allow Manning more chances to throw darts over our secondary ( piss poor safeties ) We allow 28 straight points playing the Reid way ?

Your DC should see Manning is keying on a talented rookie Cooper ( who's problem is just coaching ) with no help from the safety ? That should of been an invitation to set Manning up for another pick. But not Sutton, his ego is, stay in the man to man defense ? So let's let the kid learn now...... OK, the division title is on the line, Sutton!



You see it this way! Here's what I see, the same thing I said or have all year! We are in year # 1 of the Andy Reid offense, we were not clicking to start the year off with, nor were we going to be. I've said all along, this offense, barring major injuries will get better and will open it up more towards the end of the year. We are seeing this about the offense the last 3 games, although we didn't score well in Denver when we should have.

We sputtered in Denver, dropping many passes. We did last week vs SD, as we did today. Had we of had WR's who can catch the ball, we win the last 2 games! Even though we should have been running the ball more.

All just about anybody here said has said, stop JC, you stop KC. Well, nobody here thought much of Alex Smith, I wasn't fond of him. But I knew he had ability and could throw better than anybody gave him credit for. We just don't have WR's that can catch it consistently.

So these so called backup QB's, yadda dadda crap is a combination of many things, lack of the offense understanding the plays and timing, which comes down to execution, of which we have lacked all year. But you can see the offense jelling some now.

Exposed ? Not really. My expectations dropped a lot when we played in Denver. It was clearer how much our safeties were an issue and that Jackson and DeVito are backups in starter roles. Our attacking scheme I like but we need better players at CB,S, & DL.

All of these so called back up QB's games, would they be a close game with the KC offense playing today or last week vs SD ? Hmmm..... NO !

Our safeties suck .......... simple, we have 1 good safety with 1 on IR, a rookie who will be good one day.

We don't have the team depth ( yet ) to compete when called upon.

But KC is no fraud, they are jelling and will be a tough out in the playoffs. The blueprint is laid, we have a HC who neglects to run more than pass, he has clock management issues. We would not of won had we of scored at the end, we would have left too much time on the clock , again. Andy does not use his time out's proper, he blew it last week and blew one today as well. 4 straight passes when you have JC, Kniles Davis to run with , no Denver time outs and Manning on the sidelines ready to go was stupid!

I'm thrilled with this season after last year's debacle. But I'm really optimistic long term here. The dream of last to first was just a dream. All the SB talk was an even bigger dream.

Yes, i think Buffalo would have beat you with EJ Manual at QB even with the Chiefs offense "gelling" as you say they are. Houston i will say you would have still won with Shaub, Tennessee could have gone either way. You still would have beat Oakland. I still think you beat the JAGs no matter who is at QB. Browns could have gone either way, they might have had a Chance though with their starter QB. And i think Chiefs lose to Foles if Vick went down earlier.

If you can win a playoff game, i will think you are a worthy playoff team, if not, you are just a product of an easy schedule.
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