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Old 11-14-2013, 02:30 PM   #51
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JFK was in a crossfire. He was hit in the throat, in the back, and in the head -- from the grassy knoll.
So how come his skull fractures indicate that the shot came from behind?
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Any use of a firearm by Oswald would have given a positive paraffin test.
Which it did.

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JFK was in a crossfire. He was hit in the throat, in the back, and in the head -- from the grassy knoll.

No way to know if he would have survived the first two hits. No way did he survive the head shot. It entered at the right front temple -- and exited via the back of his head.

There were at least 3 shooters.

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You're mental. They digitized the Z Film, hommie. They can literally see the hit him from behind. Oswalds first shot went through a sign on a stop light before Kennedy even made the turn.
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Have you been paying attention to the Aaron Hernandez story?
, your retorts just get worse and worse. Aaron Hernandez?
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:06 PM   #55
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You're mental. They digitized the Z Film, hommie. They can literally see the hit him from behind. Oswalds first shot went through a sign on a stop light before Kennedy even made the turn.
You have no clue what you are talking about.

Let's look at the Zapruder film -- the key part -- about 39 seconds long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMBCfxIqP-s

You can see JFK wave to the crowd -- then disappears behind a traffic sign. Just as he emerges he flings his arms up to his throat -- indicating he has been hit. This was the throat shot.

It's not clear when he gets hit in the back. But you can clearly see the head shot. The bullet entered his right front temple -- and blew out the back of his head.

The exit wound is always much larger than the entry wound.

After the head shot -- Jackie Kennedy climbs out onto the rear of the car in an effort to retrieve parts of JFK's brain -- an instinctive reaction -- but futile.

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But you can clearly see the head shot. The bullet entered his right front temple -- and blew out the back of his head.
"Right front temple"?

How come the pattern of skull fractures shows the fatal shot came from behind?

How come his tissue was splattered forward into the car and on to the occupants seated in front of him?
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:18 AM   #57
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"Right front temple"?

How come the pattern of skull fractures shows the fatal shot came from behind?

How come his tissue was splattered forward into the car and on to the occupants seated in front of him?
It doesn't.

The back of JFK's skull was blown out to the rear. The hole in front was small.

As noted, Jackie climbed back onto the rear of the car in an instinctive effort to retrieve JFK's brains.

In the Zapruder film -- you can see JFK's head jerk backward -- which would be impossible if he was hit from the rear.
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The back of JFK's skull was blown out to the rear. The hole in front was small.

As noted, Jackie climbed back onto the rear of the car in an instinctive effort to retrieve JFK's brains.

In the Zapruder film -- you can see JFK's head jerk backward -- which would be impossible if he was hit from the rear.
Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs completely contradict the physical evidence.

Your 2nd paragraph doesn't mean anything in terms of the direction of the fatal shot.

You're just illustrating that you don't know anything about the assassination.
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Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs completely contradict the physical evidence.

Your 2nd paragraph doesn't mean anything in terms of the direction of the fatal shot.

You're just illustrating that you don't know anything about the assassination.
That last shot on the Zapruder film looks to me like Kennedy got shot in the face blowing his brains out the back of his skull. However, I'm no expert.

I've always thought there was more than one gunman involved, but I didn't believe it was some huge conspiracy, moreso that someone wanted Kennedy dead, and that Ruby's actions weren't the act of a patriot who was pissed off that someone shot the president. Ruby was sent to shut Oswald up.
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That last shot on the Zapruder film looks to me like Kennedy got shot in the face blowing his brains out the back of his skull. However, I'm no expert.
So your opinions don't really mean much. What it "looks like" isn't what happened.

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I've always thought there was more than one gunman involved, but I didn't believe it was some huge conspiracy, moreso that someone wanted Kennedy dead, and that Ruby's actions weren't the act of a patriot who was pissed off that someone shot the president. Ruby was sent to shut Oswald up.
Some people just can't accept that a loser could actually kill the President. It bothers them so much that they have to make up a "better" death for JFK - one that is more "suitable" for the horrific nature of his murder.

Thus the conspiracy theories.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:40 PM   #61
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Your 1st and 3rd paragraphs completely contradict the physical evidence.

Your 2nd paragraph doesn't mean anything in terms of the direction of the fatal shot.

You're just illustrating that you don't know anything about the assassination.
Notice that W*gs doesn't specify which physical evidence -- because he can't. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He's a shill and comes here simply to insult and smear...

The evidence was strong even in the 1970s -- and has gotten much stronger since. JFK was murdered by the financial elite -- because of JFK's change of heart/mind after the Cuban missile crisis.

He went from a cold warrior to a peacemaker. This was not acceptable to the US war machine and its corporate-banker masters.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:43 PM   #62
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Notice that W*gs doesn't specify which physical evidence -- because he can't.
The skull fracturing indicates that the fatal shot came from the rear.

The presence of skull fragments and brain matter sprayed forward into the car also indicates a shot from the rear.

JFK's entire upper body spasmed because of the firing of the the nerves controlling his back muscles due to the shockwave of the bullet passing through his head from the rear.

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He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
You just described yourself, on many many subjects.
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Old 11-18-2013, 03:21 PM   #63
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Total bull shyte.

Fracturing? Where's your evidence? You don't have any.

JFK's brains splattered in all directions. No surprise there.

As for JFK's head jerk backwards -- this was the result of the kinetic energy from the bullet. Simple physics.
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Total bull shyte.

Fracturing? Where's your evidence? You don't have any.

JFK's brains splattered in all directions. No surprise there.

As for JFK's head jerk backwards -- this was the result of the kinetic energy from the bullet. Simple physics.
Watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #65
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Wasn't there some talk about the SS Agent in the follow car popping off the head shot? Maybe an accidental discharge? The SS sure acted strange in the autopsy room.
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The NOVA film fails on many counts.

The film repeats the cover story that Oswald was a communist. Not true. He was a US intelligence asset -- probably CIA. While in the service Oswald had worked at a top secret US military base in Japan -- connected with the U2 spy plane.

The NOVA claims that JFK's throat wound was an exit wound. Not true. All of the doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas understood this was an entry wound.

NOVA claims that witnesses heard a shot from the book depository. NOVA fails to mention that most of the witnesses reported a shot from the grassy knoll.

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What I find interesting is that both wounds were from different calibers. The head matching up to a smaller .223 hollow point.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:41 AM   #68
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The Nova forensic argument I find definitive. Follow the science, not the conjecture.
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Typical gaffe. Baseless assertions.
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What I find interesting is that both wounds were from different calibers. The head matching up to a smaller .223 hollow point.
Good point. James Files says he fired one shot from the grassy knoll -- a 22 caliber from a speedball with a scope - -which he says he received from his CIA handler David Atlee Phillips...

http://www.amazon.com/I-Shot-JFK-Sho...rds=i+shot+JFK
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Good point. James Files says he fired one shot from the grassy knoll -- a 22 caliber from a speedball with a scope - -which he says he received from his CIA handler David Atlee Phillips...

http://www.amazon.com/I-Shot-JFK-Sho...rds=i+shot+JFK
Except there was no shot fired from the grass. You may be on grass and your buddy James, but at no time did a 22 cal shot hit Kennedy, nor was one fired.

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Except there was no shot fired from the grass. You may be on grass and your buddy James, but at no time did a 22 cal shot hit Kennedy, nor was one fired.

Sorry.
How do you know this? Did G-d whisper in your ear?
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Like they said in the NOVA piece, it is extremely difficult to determine where gunshots are coming from, especially in an urban environment. Three witnesses standing on the steps of the school book store depository, directly below the window where Oswald was, claimed the shots came from the grassy knoll. Why? Because the echo from that wall would reach them first. A few said they heard gunshots coming from the railway overpass. It depends where you were standing. In fact, from the hundreds of witnesses came a variety of locations, which is just what you'd expect in an urban environment.

One witness standing directly in front of the grassy knoll said he heard three, very distinct gunshots coming from the depository. If there were shots from the knoll, they would have come from only about twenty feet directly behind him. All the evidence, including three shell casings found next to the sixth floor window of the depository, point to Oswald as the single shooter. The only legitimate question is, was Oswald acting alone or in concert with others? CIA? That's a legitimate question. He said he was a patsy. Why did he say that? Probably just to cover his ass.
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Sorry, I got the name wrong. Files says he used a Remington Fireball...
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for more about the Remington Fireball..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCAkkncfJ9Y
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