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Old 10-28-2013, 12:40 PM   #1
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That 16 play 7+ min. drive in the second half ending in a Redskin TD worried the crap out of me. They were running it down our throat. The perfect answer to our Star Wars Offense.

Then comes the third QTR bringing 2 Quick b2b td's on turnovers. 21-7 Skins. Game in hand.

Guess how many running plays Shanny dials up the rest of the game. FIVE !

Did Shanny actually think that RG3 could match light sabers with PFM?
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:44 PM   #2
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When those 5 rushes resulted in negative yards or close to it, and the game quickly turned from a 14 pt lead to a deficit, the decision was made for him. He could've maybe stuck with it for a LITTLE longer, but it would've chewed too much clock.

Think about it. The one good drive they had running it took like 8 minutes or so. And that was with good gains. Once we started stuffing them, it was all but over.
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I was pleasantly surprised that he TOTALLY abandoned it SO EARLY.
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He doesn't always Tanahan, but when he does, he dafts, doodles and abandons the run.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:17 PM   #5
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He forgot what it's like being a Mile High! Lack of oxygen to the brain...
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That 16 play 7+ min. drive in the second half ending in a Redskin TD worried the crap out of me. They were running it down our throat. The perfect answer to our Star Wars Offense.

Then comes the third QTR bringing 2 Quick b2b td's on turnovers. 21-7 Skins. Game in hand.

Guess how many running plays Shanny dials up the rest of the game. FIVE !

Did Shanny actually think that RG3 could match light sabers with PFM?
Yeah, they're having that debate over here http://es.redskins.com/forum/10-the-stadium/
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That 16 play 7+ min. drive in the second half ending in a Redskin TD worried the crap out of me. They were running it down our throat. The perfect answer to our Star Wars Offense.

Then comes the third QTR bringing 2 Quick b2b td's on turnovers. 21-7 Skins. Game in hand.

Guess how many running plays Shanny dials up the rest of the game. FIVE !

Did Shanny actually think that RG3 could match light sabers with PFM?
look at the drive charts starting in the 3rd after the Broncos were down 21-7

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?ga...27007&period=4

when the game got to be 21-21, shanny ignored the running game for one series and then the turnovers hit.....
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I'm no defensive specialist but it looked to me like the d line went to a 2 gap tactic after halftime - not much running to be had in the 2nd half

Maybe someone more astute than I can look at what the front 7 was doing and either confirm or advise me to prepare my anus?
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:04 PM   #9
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So this was Shanny's 2nd half game adjustments.

On Defense he'd fake an injury every other play until PFM'ings pain meds wore off and we'd have to forfeit.

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On Offense he'd stop running in order to get RG3 killed. Thereby getting a forfeit because half our D would be now hauled off to jail.

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Because he sucks?
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Look at the drives. After we scored to make it 21-14, he ran 3 times with Morris for 6 yards I believe, result was a punt. We tied it, next posession they go pass, we stop em, go up 28-21.
We stuffed the run in the 2nd half, and then pulled away.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:41 PM   #12
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I think panic set in after the 3 & out when we made it 21-14.


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I think once we shut down some runs, then scored, shanny felt the run to win strategy was out the door.
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I think panic set in after the 3 & out when we made it 21-14.


This. Shanny felt like at that point he would have to score at least 3 more times to win and that he wouldn't have time running the ball. Plus the Broncos weren't exactly getting blown off the LOS.
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you guys realize kyle shanahan calls the plays for washington, right?
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That 16 play 7+ min. drive in the second half ending in a Redskin TD worried the crap out of me. They were running it down our throat. The perfect answer to our Star Wars Offense.

Then comes the third QTR bringing 2 Quick b2b td's on turnovers. 21-7 Skins. Game in hand.

Guess how many running plays Shanny dials up the rest of the game. FIVE !

Did Shanny actually think that RG3 could match light sabers with PFM?
I think they stopped running because of the same reason all teams stop running against Denver. They know they have to keep up with Denver's offense. They cannot afford trying to run the ball and being forced to punt because they know Manning is going to score a lot of points. This puts a lot of pressure on teams to score.
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Yeah he's still a shanny though.
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How many people think Kyle Shannahan owes being a o coord to poppy and no other team will ever give him the reigns again?
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Interesting that it's a possibility that both Shanahans and Kubiak get fired after this season.
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The long answer is that Shanny sensed the inevitable after the first Bronco TD in the 2nd half. He watches tape, he knows when PM figures you out, you're done. PM figured them out. Gase started calling a better game, and Fox grows a pair. Shanny saw the inevitable.

The short answer is that Shanny panicked.
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it's a possibility, but highly unlikely, imo. Kubes maybe, but I don't see Shanahan getting fired after this season.
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How many people think Kyle Shannahan owes being a o coord to poppy and no other team will ever give him the reigns again?
He was the OC for the Texans before the Redskins...but I guess you could say that was due to Kubes + Dad relationship too.
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Interesting that it's a possibility that both Shanahans and Kubiak get fired after this season.
If true, none of them will be out of a job long. Shanny could really benefit from going to a system that spreads out the power between personnel and the coach, much like the Steelers, Ravens, & Broncos do. Problem is, I am not sure he will set aside his ego and go along with it.

Kubiak has proven he can turn around a sorry franchise with a 2nd tier or lower QB. He will be fine.
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Yeah, when RG III became RG III & out, he had no choice but to abandon the run
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That 8 minute drive gotta lot help from the refs. Griffin should have had a delay of game penalty and One of our RB's got tackled by his face mask as well.
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