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Old 11-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli concedes the state governors race to Democrat Terry McAuliffe before supporters November 5, 2013 in Richmond, Virginia.

On Monday, Republicans said the gubernatorial race in Virginia is "a referendum on Obamacare."

This morning, Republicans forgot what a referendum is.

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On paper, Republicans were poised to have a very good year in Virginia’s off-year elections. For over a generation, whichever party controls the White House invariably loses in the commonwealth, in Virginia this year, Democrats nominated a gubernatorial candidate who’d never held elected office, didn’t have deep political roots in the state, and wasn’t especially well liked by voters.

It looked like a recipe for GOP success. It wasn’t. As the dust settles on Election Day, Terry McAuliffe (D) has narrowly won Virginia’s gubernatorial race, Ralph Northam (D) was easily elected Virginia’s next lieutenant governor, and Mark Herring (D) very narrowly leads the still-uncalled race for state attorney general.

The Tea Party wing of Virginia’s Republican Party got the extremist candidates they wanted, and it looks like they lost in a clean sweep.

There’s no shortage of relevant angles to the Virginia elections, but there are two of particular interest. The first relates to the Affordable Care Act.

For Republican Ken Cuccinelli, who knew he was losing, condemnations of “Obamacare” became the driving message of his entire campaign in the race’s closing weeks. The GOP gubernatorial hopeful said, over and over again, that the gubernatorial race would be “a referendum on Obamacare.” As recently as Monday – the day before the election – Cuccinelli said, “Tomorrow in Virginia is a referendum on Obamacare. Let’s send a message and say ‘no’ tomorrow to Obamacare.”

At the same event, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) told Virginians, “This is the first election in America since the full impact of Obamacare has been felt. This is the first chance that people in America have to speak clearly at the ballot box about the impact this law is having on their lives and our economy.”

And then Cuccinelli lost, at which point the right said that the race was close because Virginians don’t like the Affordable Care Act.

Maybe it’s worth pausing to remind Republicans what the word referendum means: “an event in which the people of a county, state, etc., vote for or against a law that deals with a specific issue.” I don’t mean to sound picky, but folks shouldn’t call a race a referendum, lose, and then say the referendum proves how right they were – at least if they want to be taken seriously.

Second, it’s important to realize just how significant women’s health was in this race, which McAuliffe won thanks to a sizable gender gap. Dahlia Lithwick explained overnight, “An official who consistently used his elected office to promote policies that shamed, marginalized, and patronized women and other minorities was met with a ‘no.’ This wasn’t just about money, or the shutdown, or Star Scientific, or Terry McAuliffe’s fancy Clinton-era friends. It was about voters and what they know to be true.”

Irin Carmon added some important context:
Democrats already generally enjoy an advantage with female and non-white voters, and particularly with voters who fall in both of those categories. But the 2009 race in Virginia was dominated by concerns about the economy and anger at Obama, which in the tradition of Virginia off-year elections, wound up being predictive of the 2010 midterms.

In 2012, the focus on a broad range of women’s issues, including an unapologetic position in favor of abortion rights, helped Barack Obama. The gift to the McAuliffe campaign was that the McDonnell administration, with Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli as a faithful warrior, went on to put restricting reproductive rights front and center on the legislative agenda.
If recent history is any guide, the right will come up with a variety of creative excuses for failure, explaining why their defeats were really victories if you close one eye and tilt your head just so. But reality is stubborn – Republicans in a competitive, “purple,” battleground state nominated right-wing candidates, alienated the voting mainstream, and lost races they probably should have won.

If the GOP’s lesson from these results is that the party needs to be even more conservative, we will see identical results in Virginia and elsewhere in the near future.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:00 AM   #2
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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For Republican Ken Cuccinelli, who knew he was losing, condemnations of “Obamacare” became the driving message of his entire campaign in the race’s closing weeks. The GOP gubernatorial hopeful said, over and over again, that the gubernatorial race would be “a referendum on Obamacare.” As recently as Monday – the day before the election – Cuccinelli said, “Tomorrow in Virginia is a referendum on Obamacare. Let’s send a message and say ‘no’ tomorrow to Obamacare.”
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Let's not forget a seemingly innocuous election in ultra-conservative Alabama's 1st District, where mainstream Republican Bradley Byrne beat out Tea Partier Dean Young.

If the Tea Party is losing elections like this in places like Alabama? They've got no hope in places like Michigan where Justin Amash is going to face a stiff primary challenge.

The Tea Partiers were right about one thing...there will be primaries where it will be a referendum on who's in office...but I think they got it wrong on who's going to be primary-ing whom.
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:10 PM   #6
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Speaking of the Tea Party, although very early it's really starting to look like it will be Chris Christie vs. The Tea Party for the GOP nomination for 2016. In other words, a guy who has a chance to win the general vs. a guy who doesn't. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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Speaking of the Tea Party, although very early it's really starting to look like it will be Chris Christie vs. The Tea Party for the GOP nomination for 2016. In other words, a guy who has a chance to win the general vs. a guy who doesn't. Will be interesting to see what happens.
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Speaking of the Tea Party, although very early it's really starting to look like it will be Chris Christie vs. The Tea Party for the GOP nomination for 2016. In other words, a guy who has a chance to win the general vs. a guy who doesn't. Will be interesting to see what happens.
I agree that it will be interesting to watch, but I think even the establishment Republicans are going to kick and scream the whole way. You can tell a lot from the election coverage last night...CNN, MSNBC and C-SPAN all had extensive coverage for hours, even though it was an off-off-year election. FOX News only had Christie's victory speech.

They don't want the guy who says "I won't let either party get in the way of me doing my job." Too unpredictable and not enough in lock-step with what they feel he should do or say.
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the silence from the right is deafening.
You gotta give 'em a little time to assemble their Fox & Friends talking points.

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That guy doesn't realize, if he'd been around during the American Revolution, he'd have been a Tory.
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Looks like the Tea Party is on the public's shiat list. If only there would have been a warning. Some sort of clue. I guess none of us saw this coming. A complete mystery.
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All you dumbocrats think you've won! Hah!!! Think again.

Tea Party wages war on their own Kentucky Public Library for FREEDOM! Score another victory for LIBERTY!!!!

http://www.alternet.org/economy/tea-...2C1&paging=off
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I love threads like this,only a shame our resident tin foil hats brigade don't frequent it
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A shame, but not surprising.

Instead of learning the lesson here, the TeaPublicans will undoubtedly double down on stupid and keep on truckin.'
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It's good for repubs to have tea party lose power IMO.
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It's going to be Christie and the Dems will have to resort to attacking his weight, and the fact in his past he did some questionable ethical things. Those things if Christie was smart he would leak out himself right now. I think mostly a couple contracts given to people he knows? I rem reading something where Romney backed off Christie as a running mate because of them.

he can just go Obama playbook though and say they are lies and made up by dems. Thats the new plan in DC now. Even when caught you just say its a set up, its BS, its made up by my enemies.
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It's going to be Christie and the Dems will have to resort to attacking his weight, and the fact in his past he did some questionable ethical things. Those things if Christie was smart he would leak out himself right now. I think mostly a couple contracts given to people he knows? I rem reading something where Romney backed off Christie as a running mate because of them.

he can just go Obama playbook though and say they are lies and made up by dems. Thats the new plan in DC now. Even when caught you just say its a set up, its BS, its made up by my enemies.
attack his weight? no. there will be plenty to attack once he is nominated,if nominated. being a republican brings a cornucopia of things to attack. not to mention his poor temperament. that ego of his might fly in NJ but not nationally.
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It's going to be Christie and the Dems will have to resort to attacking his weight, and the fact in his past he did some questionable ethical things. Those things if Christie was smart he would leak out himself right now. I think mostly a couple contracts given to people he knows? I rem reading something where Romney backed off Christie as a running mate because of them.

he can just go Obama playbook though and say they are lies and made up by dems. Thats the new plan in DC now. Even when caught you just say its a set up, its BS, its made up by my enemies.
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Most of Virginia is very far right and like most of the US the city w the largest population rules the roost. In this case its the Northern Virginia area (DC) which is full of granola eating, Prius driving, turtle neck wearing libs. This part of the city is completely opposite from the rest of the state.
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Most of Virginia is very far right and like most of the US the city w the largest population rules the roost. In this case its the Northern Virginia area (DC) which is full of granola eating, Prius driving, turtle neck wearing libs. This part of the city is completely opposite from the rest of the state.
so a majority of voters live in NVA.
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so a majority of voters live in NVA.
Yeah, I'm sure this guy is the same type of person who looks at the map on Election Day and says, "Look at all that red! I don't understand how we lost!"

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Yeah, I'm sure this guy is the same type of person who looks at the map on Election Day and says, "Look at all that red! I don't understand how we lost!"

Didn't you know? It's one unit area, one vote. It says so right in the USC, right after the part about the US being a Christian nation.
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It's going to be Christie and the Dems will have to resort to attacking his weight, and the fact in his past he did some questionable ethical things. Those things if Christie was smart he would leak out himself right now. I think mostly a couple contracts given to people he knows? I rem reading something where Romney backed off Christie as a running mate because of them.

he can just go Obama playbook though and say they are lies and made up by dems. Thats the new plan in DC now. Even when caught you just say its a set up, its BS, its made up by my enemies.
There will be plenty to attack and it will be the far right, as well as Dems doing the attacking. Weight won't be an issue.
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