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Old 11-02-2013, 10:49 PM   #101
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:56 PM   #102
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Studesville would be the best choice to replace Fox.He is closest to Fox in demeanor. Best to keep the two coordinators where they are besides whom ever is chosen will be given a several week audition for a head coaching gig next season. No sense greasing the runway for either coordinator to leave. Studesville would rock the boat the least. Hopefully Fox will be back in a month but I doubt it.
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Studesville would be the best choice to replace Fox.He is closest to Fox in demeanor. Best to keep the two coordinators where they are besides whom ever is chosen will be given a several week audition for a head coaching gig next season. No sense greasing the runway for either coordinator to leave. Studesville would rock the boat the least. Hopefully Fox will be back in a month but I doubt it.
I couldn't disagree more. The criterion "whoever is like Fox regardless of ability or experience" is nonsensical. Del Rio has been a head coach for several years and has league wide respect. He knows the ups and downs of a season and can manage players and coaches. Studesville was an interim head coach for three games, and likely only to fulfill the Rooney rule.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:59 PM   #104
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It will be interesting to see how things change as far as in game decision making. Anyone else feel like Gase is a little trigger happy? I do. I think he wants to put up 70 a game. Hes got that look in his eyes. Will he have more free reign with the king out of the castle?

However, IIRC, JDR is a pretty conservative head coach, like Fox. Perhaps JDR being so innately defensive minded has the opposite effect on our gameplan. We run so many plays at such a quick rate, this gives the other team more opportunities on offense and makes it that much harder for our d. Maybe JDR dials it back a bit. We'll see.
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Studesville would be the best choice to replace Fox.He is closest to Fox in demeanor. Best to keep the two coordinators where they are besides whom ever is chosen will be given a several week audition for a head coaching gig next season. No sense greasing the runway for either coordinator to leave. Studesville would rock the boat the least. Hopefully Fox will be back in a month but I doubt it.
I would think that Del Rio will assume the duties. With the O line still in flux Studesville is needed there. Del Rio has some good and experienced assistants that can get up in the box while he is on the sidelines. He will know if things are not going right from the snap pics and can change play calls ( or the assistant) if they are screwing up.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:06 PM   #106
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Don't like Del Rio needing to concentrate on HC duties too. Would almost rather have Gase do it and let Peyton run the offense. Only kind of joking.
Don't worry about it, this is a vet team with very solid coaching and Elway at the helm.. He may well handle some of Foxy's duties too that are not strictly pertaining to on field coaching, which no doubt will be handled without a blip by JDR/Gase/Manning/Champ and Woody.

The team will redouble its focus around winning for Fox too and Fox will be working by phone, email and text with the players and other coaches within a couple weeks as well while recouping at home.. He's not going to be far out of the loop at all.

Depends on type of valve surgery too how quickly he might make it back to the sidelines during games? Whether a newer and still a bit experimental and less invasive TAVR percutaneous aortic valve job is used (if he qualifies for this approach??) or if he'll get the more standard chest cracker with bypass pump?

There are pros and cons with each approach, and still some real question marks with the TAVR percutaneous approach which involves essentially 'squishing' a tightly folded up bovine derived replacement aortic valve through a circuitous route in the femoral artery system from the groin area up to access the aortic valve area on a still beating heart where they then deploy the new valve and essentially press it in place over the opening of the original equipment valve with the aid of an inflatable balloon that helps in placing and seating the valve over the original diseased valve.

I'd still feel a bit more comfortable with the more tried and true surgical method for Foxy, but that's a longer recovery too.

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I would think that Del Rio will assume the duties. With the O line still in flux Studesville is needed there. Del Rio has some good and experienced assistants that can get up in the box while he is on the sidelines. He will know if things are not going right from the snap pics and can change play calls ( or the assistant) if they are screwing up.
Oh I agree I think it will be JDR too I just would prefer Studesville.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:09 PM   #108
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I couldn't disagree more. The criterion "whoever is like Fox regardless of ability or experience" is nonsensical. Del Rio has been a head coach for several years and has league wide respect. He knows the ups and downs of a season and can manage players and coaches. Studesville was an interim head coach for three games, and likely only to fulfill the Rooney rule.
I agree but I also agree with the sentiment of not putting JDR in the spotlight for a potential HC gig.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:13 PM   #109
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Fox is a SDSU guy so he's always been a favorite of mine.

But that's not the real reason. I don't understand the hate some fans have for another human being just because they play for a different city.

Regarding one of the posts above asking what Fox does since he doesn't call the plays, losing your head coach is a huge deal. He does everything that holds the team together. Either the team falls apart like the Saints did or they rally behind like the Colts did last year. I don't know the stats but I would think teams tend to fall apart more than they do better.
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I couldn't disagree more. The criterion "whoever is like Fox regardless of ability or experience" is nonsensical. Del Rio has been a head coach for several years and has league wide respect. He knows the ups and downs of a season and can manage players and coaches. Studesville was an interim head coach for three games, and likely only to fulfill the Rooney rule.
I really don't think the HC is that crucial to this team they way it is set up but most likely they will chose JDR. I just think Studesville is a better choice for reasons given previously.
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wow, get well Fox.

JDR can handle the next few weeks
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:22 PM   #112
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Seen this before in "Major League"...

This is the Broncos Lou Brown moment. Get well Fox.
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Studesville wasn't that great as HC. No thanks
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:27 PM   #114
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Fox is a SDSU guy so he's always been a favorite of mine.

But that's not the real reason. I don't understand the hate some fans have for another human being just because they play for a different city.

Regarding one of the posts above asking what Fox does since he doesn't call the plays, losing your head coach is a huge deal. He does everything that holds the team together. Either the team falls apart like the Saints did or they rally behind like the Colts did last year. I don't know the stats but I would think teams tend to fall apart more than they do better.
Depends on the leadership of the team I imagine. It's a vet team lead by Peyton manning. I'd be shocked if they become unglued cause of this.

As for the saints, Sean Payton calls plays and controls the offense. They also lost their d coordinator. That was a mess. Del rio has been a head coach for a while in this league. There's zero reason the broncos should falter. Zero
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It was a very different team, we didn't have PFM.
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I really don't think the HC is that crucial to this team they way it is set up but most likely they will chose JDR. I just think Studesville is a better choice for reasons given previously.
This is nonsensical. It's del rio. He's the one with the most experience, and we aren't just trying to kill time here. Studs is a position coach. That's it
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:48 PM   #117
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Default UPDATE: John Fox will undergo surgery

Broncos coach John Fox needs heart operation

Denver AP - Denver Broncos coach John Fox needs heart surgery and will miss several weeks, team spokesman Patrick Smyth confirmed Saturday night.

The 58-year-old Fox will undergo aortic valve replacement surgery early next week at a hospital in Charlotte, N.C.

The Broncos did not immediately name an interim head coach.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/broncos...6280--nfl.html


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Old 11-02-2013, 11:51 PM   #118
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:51 PM   #119
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People seem to forget with the Saints that there was an interim interim HC for 6 weeks until the interim came off suspension. It was also a situation where the team was immersed in a scandal. The Broncos and Colts are a much different situation than the Saints.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:55 PM   #120
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I was hoping the original thread would have changed the title, but this works.

Prayers are with Fox as he undergoes his surgery. Many things are much more important than Football.

And the way other teams scalp ours for head coaches, I am confident the ones we have one staff can get it done.
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I really don't think the HC is that crucial to this team they way it is set up but most likely they will chose JDR. I just think Studesville is a better choice for reasons given previously.
Like JDR isn't already considered as a HC candidate? That's why this move makes the most sense. No one really knows what the other coaches can do now they still won't. And what kind of slight would it be if JDR wasn't picked? He probably wouldn't be thrilled. Nothing like pissing off the most qualified candidate by going in another direction during a team crisis.

And the idea that Studesville is the most like Fox doesn't make any sense since one is a RB coach and the other is a defensive background coach. How are they at all similar? Del Rio's background is defense, and he's about as dry at press conferences as Fox, so I don't see how Studesville is a better match. Really, matching the head coach is irrelevant. You want the best guy regardless of personality. Players will adjust.

Your only point I could "kind of" see, and your only point that actually speaks to what will help the team most right now, is that it may divide Del Rio's contributions on defense. He'll lean on his position coaches.

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Next man up, and that man is JDR, as far as I am concerned. We'll be just fine. I can see this team rallying around Fox and actually having more focus in practice.
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Prayers for John Fox.

This season is possibly one of the strangest I have ever seen.

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Depends on the leadership of the team I imagine. It's a vet team lead by Peyton manning. I'd be shocked if they become unglued cause of this.

As for the saints, Sean Payton calls plays and controls the offense. They also lost their d coordinator. That was a mess. Del rio has been a head coach for a while in this league. There's zero reason the broncos should falter. Zero
I never thought much of Del Rio as a head coach but yeah, all he has to do is not screw up, but we'll see. You never know how a team will react to something like this.
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I couldn't disagree more. The criterion "whoever is like Fox regardless of ability or experience" is nonsensical. Del Rio has been a head coach for several years and has league wide respect. He knows the ups and downs of a season and can manage players and coaches. Studesville was an interim head coach for three games, and likely only to fulfill the Rooney rule.

League wide respect? That's not entirely accurate.
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