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Old 11-01-2013, 12:15 PM   #1
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(CBS News) WASHINGTON - For 31 days now, the Obama administration has been telling us that Americans by the millions are visiting the new health insurance website, despite all its problems.

But no one in the administration has been willing to tell us how many policies have been purchased, and this may be the reason: CBS News has learned enrollments got off to an incredibly slow start.

Early enrollment figures are contained in notes from twice-a-day "war room" meetings convened within the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services after the website failed on Oct. 1. They were turned over in response to a document request from the House Oversight Committee.

The website launched on a Tuesday. Publicly, the government said there were 4.7 million unique visits in the first 24 hours. But at a meeting Wednesday morning, the war room notes say "six enrollments have occurred so far."

They were with BlueCross BlueShield North Carolina and Kansas City, CareSource and Healthcare Service Corporation.

By Wednesday afternoon, enrollments were up to "approximately 100." By the end of Wednesday, the notes reflect "248 enrollments" nationwide.

The health care exchanges need to average 39,000 enrollees a day to meet the goal of seven million by March 1. The war room notes give a glimpse into some of the reasons customers had problems:

"Direct enrollment (signing up directly on an insurer's website) is not working for any issuers."
"Experian" credit reporting agency is "creating confusion with credit check information."
"Issuer phone numbers are not appearing correctly on the Pay Now page."
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The notes leave no doubt that some enrollment figures, which the administration has chosen to keep secret, are available.

"Statistics coming in," said notes from the very first meeting the morning of Oct. 2. Contractor "QSSI has a daily dashboard created every night."

But head of CMS Marilyn Tavenner would not disclose any figures when Rep. Dave Camp, chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, asked earlier this week.

"Chairman Camp, we will have those numbers available in mid-November," she said.

Health and Human Services told CBS News Thursday it's in no position to confirm or discuss enrollment figures because it doesn't have any. A spokesman suggested the numbers obtained by CBS News may not include all the different ways to enroll, such as paper applications. The spokesman also said that enrollment figures in Massachusetts' health care plan started off negligible but then skyrocketed as a deadline neared.

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But it's been such a rousing success, ignore the facts and numbers.
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But it's been such a rousing success, ignore the facts and numbers.
Dem/Libs never let facts get in the way of taking over your life.
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I'm signing up next year in Maine.... Thank you President Obama
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Last I read over 25,000 Washingtonians have signed up for new coverage under Washington State health plan finder. I'm sure the numbers for the national site would be comparable if not for the technical issues.
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Last I read over 25,000 Washingtonians have signed up for new coverage under Washington State health plan finder. I'm sure the numbers for the national site would be comparable if not for the technical issues.
Show me the article.
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Show me the article.
Oops. I was wrong. The number is 49,000.

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An additional 92,000 Washington residents have completed applications, about 20,000 more than the previous week. Among that group, more than 76,000 are in households in which at least one member is enrolled in a qualified health plan.

Applicants have completed the entire process of enrollment except the final step, providing payment information for the first month’s premium. That payment is not due until Dec. 23.

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I find Hobo's obsessive fixation on Obamacare pathetic. It also has a frantic quality to it that is disturbing. It reminds of when you look into Michelle Bachmann's eyes.
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Oops. I was wrong. The number is 49,000.

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Yes, most are Medicaid, but...
Nice skip...............Moron.

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Of the 49,000 who have enrolled, nearly 6,400 have signed up for the “qualified health plans” that insurance companies are offering through Healthplanfinder in the individual market. That is an increase of 40 percent over the week before, the exchange noted.

The other 42,000 residents have enrolled in Medicaid coverage.
Obamacare only work when young people pay the high premium to help older people.
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I find Hobo's obsessive fixation on Obamacare pathetic. It also has a frantic quality to it that is disturbing. It reminds of when you look into Michelle Bachmann's eyes.
Yep. The righties here are really freaking out, especially Hobo.
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Obamacare only work when young people pay the high premium to help older people.
No evidence at all to support that claim. We're early in the process and as the article points out an additional 92K Washington State residents have completed the enrollment process and just need to take the final step.

And the experience in MA was that most people procrastinated until the last moment. You'll see a rush of enrollment as the deadline approaches.
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No evidence at all to support that claim. We're early in the process and as the article points out an additional 92K Washington State residents have completed the enrollment process and just need to take the final step.

And the experience in MA was that most people procrastinated until the last moment. You'll see a rush of enrollment as the deadline approaches.
You want "single payer" go to England and Canada and find out how great it is. Ask the Govenor of Nova Scotia. Its so awesome he came to the US to get heart surgury. dumba$$
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You want "single payer" go to England and Canada and find out how great it is. Ask the Govenor of Nova Scotia. Its so awesome he came to the US to get heart surgury. dumba$$
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Over at “Think Progress,” Igor Volksy reports that, while speaking to a crowd in Calgary, Canada last weekend Sarah Palin revealed a tidbit about her life growing up not far from Whitehorse:

“We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada,” she said. “And I think now, isn't that ironic?”


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To separate fact from fiction, Aaron E. Carroll, M.D., the director of the Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research in Indianapolis, identified the top myths about the two health care systems.
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You want "single payer" go to England and Canada and find out how great it is. Ask the Govenor of Nova Scotia. Its so awesome he came to the US to get heart surgury. dumba$$
Actually I'm opposed to a single payer system. I think the ACA/Romneycare/Swiss model will prove to be better than both single payer and the mess we've had until now.
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Actually I'm opposed to a single payer system. I think the ACA/Romneycare/Swiss model will prove to be better than both single payer and the mess we've had until now.
I see you live in Everett. What do you think of Vashon Island?

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No evidence at all to support that claim. We're early in the process and as the article points out an additional 92K Washington State residents have completed the enrollment process and just need to take the final step.

And the experience in MA was that most people procrastinated until the last moment. You'll see a rush of enrollment as the deadline approaches.
So you're disputing your own source? Funny.
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I see you live in Everett. What do you think of Vashon Island?
Never been. Is there anything there worth seeing?
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How exactly?
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The non responses by the obamacare supporters speaks for itself. There is no reason to defend or attack the program. It is what it is.....
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Never been. Is there anything there worth seeing?
We've been throwing around the idea of moving up into that neck of the woods.
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The non responses by the obamacare supporters speaks for itself. There is no reason to defend or attack the program. It is what it is.....
True, deflect and hope the bad news goes away, just like the child mentality they have for every subject. Their media knows this has got to work, so any and every excuse no matter how weak and stupid it sounds, will be used.
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This exchange between Jon Karl and Jay Carney can be best described as a complete train wreck. The entire video is worth watching, but things really start to heat up around 2:45.

Jon’s question that sparks it all: How can President Obama claim that people can bypass the marketplace website and apply for insurance by phone in 25 minutes, when the call center employees can’t actually sign anyone up until the website is repaired?

Needless to say, Jay gets more than a little flustered as he tries to give Jon a satisfactory response.

“Jon, I give up,” Carney said, since Karl wouldn’t let up. “I think everybody else here understands what I’m saying. I’m sorry I can’t say the same for you,” Carney snarked.

What White House lackies don’t seem to understand is that their blatantly untrue talking points are no longer working, because literally millions can’t miss how incompetent this administration is.
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I can't understand why the trot someone out there everyday. In my administration we would only talk to those people once a week at least. No more that 3 times.
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I can't understand why the trot someone out there everyday. In my administration we would only talk to those people once a week at least. No more that 3 times.
Get to "single payer. 01/01/2014 Comes you will be fined for not having health insurance. By then people will scream for "single payer". Then we will be really screwed. Lets not forget that the "employeer mandate" has been postponed. They estimate when all the mandates in obamacare are in full effect that 129,000,000 will not be able to keep the health insurance they currently have. That's right 129,000,000 million.
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Get to "single payer. 01/01/2014 Comes you will be fined for not having health insurance. By then people will scream for "single payer". Then we will be really screwed. Lets not forget that the "employeer mandate" has been postponed. They estimate when all the mandates in obamacare are in full effect that 129,000,000 will not be able to keep the health insurance they currently have. That's right 129,000,000 million.
While single payer has numerous issues, it would be better than this nonsense.
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