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Old 10-22-2013, 03:38 PM   #101
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Give us respect then.
I don't believe thinking the Broncos are better then the Chiefs is a lack of respect
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:41 PM   #102
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Give us respect then.
When havent I? Ive given your team respect, i just dont give YOU respect. That said, I think they're a playoff loss waiting to happen. The Chiefs win when everything goes right, and against inferior teams they've been able to do that (and some good luck). Eventually one of two things will happen ...they'll level out toward the mean or good teams will expose them more.

They are a good team, i dont think they are a great team.

For the record, I dont think we are either, but i think the potential for us to be is there.
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When havent I? Ive given your team respect, i just dont give YOU respect. That said, I think they're a playoff loss waiting to happen. The Chiefs win when everything goes right, and against inferior teams they've been able to do that (and some good luck). Eventually one of two things will happen ...they'll level out toward the mean or good teams will expose them more.

They are a good team, i dont think they are a great team.

For the record, I dont think we are either, but i think the potential for us to be is there.
See. You just assume out defense is gonna fall off. It won't. So you are not respecting our defense. Our offense will be twice as good by the end of the season. All we needed was a coach who knew how to plan and a quarterback who didn't throw it to the other team. We got that and more. Respect.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:57 PM   #104
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Our offense will be twice as good by the end of the season.
You absolutely can not prove that. You CAN NOT tell me it has improved 1% from week 1.
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It is different in that we played @NE, vs Baltimore, and @ Indy whereas you play @ Buffalo, vs Cleveland, and vs. Indy. Also, we won't get the Titans backup, and we may not get Houston's third string QB. So in the end, yes our schedule is more difficult. But it is what it is.
Fitzpatrick for us was always like playing Elway in his prime. Keenum played better than Schaub. For you guys; NE is very beatable, you played Baltimore at a good time (still a good win) and Indy was just a bad combination of road and Manning distraction. In the end, the biggest advantage for the Chiefs is playing Indy @ home.
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You absolutely can not prove that. You CAN NOT tell me it has improved 1% from week 1.
Youngest offensive line in the NFL. New system. New coach. New quarterback. And it HAS improved.
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See. You just assume out defense is gonna fall off. It won't. So you are not respecting our defense. Our offense will be twice as good by the end of the season. All we needed was a coach who knew how to plan and a quarterback who didn't throw it to the other team. We got that and more. Respect.
Chiefs- twice as good IS possible, but not that much better. Until they can get a TE rolling, the receiving corp is going to continue to look weak. AND if Charles goes down, it may be worse for the Chiefs than the Donks losing Manning.
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See. You just assume out defense is gonna fall off. It won't. So you are not respecting our defense. Our offense will be twice as good by the end of the season. All we needed was a coach who knew how to plan and a quarterback who didn't throw it to the other team. We got that and more. Respect.
I didnt say your defense was gonna fall off. I just have no faith in your offense, and see no reason why you'll be "twice as good." In fact, there's a better chance of you guys losing Charles to injury than you being "twice as good." You aren't dominating teams. You barely snuck by Houston. You needed a lucky special teams play and a lucky personal foul call to beat Ryan Fitzpatricks titans. You needed an epic bed**** to stay ahead of Philly. You needed a JV line to dominate the raiders.

You're a good team, no doubt. With your schedule, youre gonna win a lot of games. Saying youre not a super bowl team or have a lower ceiling than teams with hall of fame/dominant QBs is not "disrespect."
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Fitzpatrick for us was always like playing Elway in his prime. Keenum played better than Schaub. For you guys; NE is very beatable, you played Baltimore at a good time (still a good win) and Indy was just a bad combination of road and Manning distraction. In the end, the biggest advantage for the Chiefs is playing Indy @ home.
Keenum didnt really play all that well when you started blitzing him. At all. And the fact that Kubes never adjusted is a shame on him.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:26 PM   #110
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what the hell is up with all the new chiefs fans on this board
If the chiefs **** the bed, they'll be gone as quickly as they came.

I agree, its highly annoying. They have nothing better to do with their time.
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I didnt say your defense was gonna fall off. I just have no faith in your offense, and see no reason why you'll be "twice as good." In fact, there's a better chance of you guys losing Charles to injury than you being "twice as good." You aren't dominating teams. You barely snuck by Houston. You needed a lucky special teams play and a lucky personal foul call to beat Ryan Fitzpatricks titans. You needed an epic bed**** to stay ahead of Philly. You needed a JV line to dominate the raiders.

You're a good team, no doubt. With your schedule, youre gonna win a lot of games. Saying youre not a super bowl team or have a lower ceiling than teams with hall of fame/dominant QBs is not "disrespect."
You're right, teams don't play well against the Chiefs, much worse than when they play the Broncos. Hmm I wonder why ...
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Fitzpatrick for us was always like playing Elway in his prime. Keenum played better than Schaub. For you guys; NE is very beatable, you played Baltimore at a good time (still a good win) and Indy was just a bad combination of road and Manning distraction. In the end, the biggest advantage for the Chiefs is playing Indy @ home.
Look dude, I'm not trying to take anything away from you. You guys are 7-0. I'm simply saying I think the Chiefs are an above average team that with a normal schedule would be in the wild card race until the last Sunday. If they played the Broncos 10 times on a neutral field I think the Broncos would win 8 or 9. And I was just saying I am concerned that they will split with us (never easy at Arrowhead) and as a result of their beyond easy schedule they may get to 13-3 meaning if they do beat us once we need to not lose another game to avoid it coming down to a tiebreaker. I'm also saying if that happens I think whoever doesn't win the division would have tied for the best record in the NFL or have the second best record, but they will be on the road the entire playoffs while a team from another division will probably go 9-7 and get a home game. What did I say that isn't right? The Broncos need to beat KC both times or they could be in trouble.
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See. You just assume out defense is gonna fall off. It won't. So you are not respecting our defense. Our offense will be twice as good by the end of the season. All we needed was a coach who knew how to plan and a quarterback who didn't throw it to the other team. We got that and more. Respect.
It's unrealistic to expect no type of drop off when KC faces more premier offenses.

There's a difference between respect and being delusional. You have a good defense, but one that will need to blitz to get consistent pressure on good offenses which will leave your secondary very vulnerable
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what the hell is up with all the new chiefs fans on this board
Have you ever checked out a Chiefs board? Its basically a moderator free free for all. This board is ran really well for a pro football forum. Basically if you really want to discuss football here, people will respond coherently. Besides, its more fun discussing with rival fans than a bunch of like-minded nut swingers.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:06 PM   #116
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:18 PM   #117
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These Chiefs have a simple game plan that invokes the tenets of the last great surprising Alex Smith–led team, the 2011 49ers. That's a list that reads something like:

1. Do no harm: Avoid turnovers at all costs.
2. Beat up the opposing quarterback and wait for him to make a mistake. Catch that mistake.
3. Dominate the field-position battle.
4. Don't get injured.
5. Play an easy schedule.
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Look dude, I'm not trying to take anything away from you. You guys are 7-0. I'm simply saying I think the Chiefs are an above average team that with a normal schedule would be in the wild card race until the last Sunday. If they played the Broncos 10 times on a neutral field I think the Broncos would win 8 or 9. And I was just saying I am concerned that they will split with us (never easy at Arrowhead) and as a result of their beyond easy schedule they may get to 13-3 meaning if they do beat us once we need to not lose another game to avoid it coming down to a tiebreaker. I'm also saying if that happens I think whoever doesn't win the division would have tied for the best record in the NFL or have the second best record, but they will be on the road the entire playoffs while a team from another division will probably go 9-7 and get a home game. What did I say that isn't right? The Broncos need to beat KC both times or they could be in trouble.
Lets- I totally agree with the scenario you've laid out and as a Chiefs fan, I hopes that it happens. Unless the Chiefs offense can generate a little more firepower, this dream scenario probably won't happen.
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It's unrealistic to expect no type of drop off when KC faces more premier offenses.

There's a difference between respect and being delusional. You have a good defense, but one that will need to blitz to get consistent pressure on good offenses which will leave your secondary very vulnerable
Get out with that crap. Our defense isn't "good". It's dominant. Your defense sucks balls. I'd rather have an average offense and a dominant defense over a pos defense and an excellent offense.
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Get out with that crap. Our defense isn't "good". It's dominant. Your defense sucks balls. I'd rather have an average offense and a dominant defense over a pos defense and an excellent offense.
This is the only warning you're gonna get, ChiefsKingdom -- less trolling and more substance or your stay here will be a short one.

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Get out with that crap. Our defense isn't "good". It's dominant. Your defense sucks balls. I'd rather have an average offense and a dominant defense over a pos defense and an excellent offense.
I'm not convinced. Dominant defenses don't give up near 300 yards to an un-drafted rookie QB in his first game. You're very good, but not great.

And the problem with your statement is you don't have an average offense.

I concede the Broncos defense isn't very good, but they will get better as Von Miller gets into NFL shape.
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I'm not convinced. Dominant defenses don't give up near 300 yards to an un-drafted rookie QB in his first game. You're very good, but not great.

And the problem with your statement is you don't have an average offense.

I concede the Broncos defense isn't very good, but they will get better as Von Miller gets into NFL shape.
Agree. Week after week Alex Smith is hovering around 125 passing yards as the fourth quarter approaches.
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I love how these kc fans think seven weeks of football against bad football teams make a defense dominant. Same team that was 2-14 last year? I guess this is what happens when you're so bad for so long it makes a 7 week stretch the complete picture.
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Get out with that crap. Our defense isn't "good". It's dominant. Your defense sucks balls. I'd rather have an average offense and a dominant defense over a pos defense and an excellent offense.
You have an above avg pass rush, you are 20th vs the run and it would be worse if some bad teams with bad QB's were not behind late in games.

Our Pass yards may stink but we are #1 overall vs the run, your Team isn't #1 vs anything.

At some point as the season goes on your going to need to stop the run. Houston would have run late in the game if Tate were not hurt and Foster not out.

Dominat means your the best at something, kFc is good at rushing the passer which translates to top 5 vs the pass but it is not because you have a great secondary.

Top 5 overall is pretty good but it week 7 and look at who you have played. I would pissed if my team wasn't that good vs that kind of lame competition.
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I love how these kc fans think seven weeks of football against bad football teams make a defense dominant. Same team that was 2-14 last year? I guess this is what happens when you're so bad for so long it makes a 7 week stretch the complete picture.
They're naturally excited. I will say that most of the Chief fans that I know in real life, are much more pessimistic about KC's chances, even if they are excited about the team.
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