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Old 06-12-2014, 08:18 PM   #1251
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Yep. We've watched it all series.
I know, just reiterating a point to a certain someone. I'm having a Bmore moment. I can't help it.

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Nice to see Dwyane Wade drive wildly, stumble over his own feet, fall down and blindly fling the ball towards the basket.........and NOT get a call. For a change.
"THAT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING!" That had me rolling.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:18 PM   #1252
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Unexpected first half but this is far from over.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:20 PM   #1253
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Pop has left hints here and there that he will retire when Duncan does. That's gonna happen pretty soon.
It wasn't a hint. He flat out said when Timmy goes he is right behind him.
Duncan already said he doesn't feel the need to retire anytime soon.

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They just need better ball movement. It looks like a shell of the normal heat offense. Spurs are doing a great job frustrating them. It's also demoralizing when the spurs shoot at an insane rate.
They are giving them wide open bunnies(as Kobe would say).
The ball movement is lacking because they are relying on James to make plays.
When he is on and dialed in that works. But when he cannot get to the rim consistently and force the defense to back off or double team him then it doesn't.
Spurs do not have to double team him. Hell Danny Green was checking him early on.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:21 PM   #1254
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"THAT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING!" That had me rolling.
I still don't agree. The heat have played great offense including two titles without a "point guard". They need generally good guard play and they aren't getting it. We've discussed this ad nauseum. Their are so few tradiontial PGs these days. At least like the ones we grew up watching
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:22 PM   #1255
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And Lebron is playing poorly. The whole team is
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #1256
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I still don't agree. The heat have played great offense including two titles without a "point guard". They need generally good guard play and they aren't getting it. We've discussed this ad nauseum. Their are so few tradiontial PGs these days. At least like the ones we grew up watching
The rule of any sport is you either make additions and improve or you remain the same and get left behind.
Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work now.
When they have to force a double team it works. No double team is coming.
They are playing the Heat straight up and not fearing any buckets.

You act as though teams do not have film on this.
I said it before, the Heat in most cases have the talent advantage to overcome their issues. They do not have that against the Spurs.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #1257
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Unexpected first half but this is far from over.
Exactly. You know the Heat will go on a run in the 2nd half to make a game of it.

Hard to see the Spurs going into Miami and winning both games. Would be amazing if they pulled it off.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:25 PM   #1258
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The announcers just said something that rings true. Remember in 04 when the lakers lost to a lesser pistons team? That is happening again. Lol
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The rule of any sport is you either make additions and improve or you remain the same and get left behind.
Just because it worked before doesn't mean it will work now.
When they have to force a double team it works. No double team is coming.
They are playing the Heat straight up and not fearing any buckets.

You act as though teams do not have film on this.
I said it before, the Heat in most cases have the talent advantage to overcome their issues. They do not have that against the Spurs.
I don't disagree with this. Right now their talent is failing them. What I disagree with is this idea of suddenly injecting a point guard and having the offense run through them. I thought we already agreed on this point that they need another playmaker, not necessarily a tradionltal PG
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This reminds me of the Lebron led Cav teams. If Lebron doesn't play at an all world level, there aren't any other players on the team that can pick up the slack. Wade looks gassed, Chalmers sucks, Bosh isn't getting enough touches, Battier fell off the face of the earth. They have no other scorers.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:28 PM   #1261
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Exactly. You know the Heat will go on a run in the 2nd half to make a game of it.

Hard to see the Spurs going into Miami and winning both games. Would be amazing if they pulled it off.
Yep. That 3rd quarter last game heat closed the bigger gap to 7 points. I expect them to come out even more fierce than that. Spurs will have to continue to play smart and consistent otherwise it's a perfect chance to win lost.
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This reminds me of the Lebron led Cav teams. If Lebron doesn't play at an all world level, there aren't any other players on the team that can pick up the slack. Wade looks gassed, Chalmers sucks, Bosh isn't getting enough touches, Battier fell off the face of the earth. They have no other scorers.
Wade has zero lift. Wonder if that knee is bothering him
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:29 PM   #1263
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I don't disagree with this. Right now their talent is failing them. What I disagree with is this idea of suddenly injecting a point guard and having the offense run through them. I thought we already agreed on this point that they need another playmaker, not necessarily a tradionltal PG
You don't understand, it is not about having the offense run through the PG. It is about allowing LeBron to have plays where he doesn't have to be the instigator on offense and allow him to play without the ball and set up in the post.
He always has to run the offense now and if he cannot command a double then the offense sags. The only way to stop that is with a PG as a SG doesn't have those skills unless you draft in the top 5-10.
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I don't disagree with this. Right now their talent is failing them. What I disagree with is this idea of suddenly injecting a point guard and having the offense run through them. I thought we already agreed on this point that they need another playmaker, not necessarily a tradionltal PG
It isn't so much having a traditional PG...it's more replacing Chalmers with a competent player that can get to the rim and play defense. Chalmers has no skill at all. He can't get into the paint, he has no vision, and he is not a good defender. Occasionally he will get a hot hand and knock down some shots, but they need someone that can penetrate and mix up the opposing defense.
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don't agree that the Spurs are a lesser team..Heat is just overrated..
You don't get to 4 finals in a row by being overrated
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You don't understand, it is not about having the offense run through the PG. It is about allowing LeBron to have plays where he doesn't have to be the instigator on offense and allow him to play without the ball and set up in the post.
He always has to run the offense now and if he cannot command a double then the offense sags. The only way to stop that is with a PG as a SG doesn't have those skills unless you draft in the top 5-10.
If the SG plays like DWade has over the last few years, it absolutely can. I don't even know why we are arguing about this
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:32 PM   #1267
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Looking at this tired and very thin Miami team makes me wonder why James would come back. He's carrying a heavy load.
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This is WHY LeBron don't belong in the top 5..MJ brought it every night..LeBron.. not even close..
Oh Jesus Christ you're exhausting.
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If the SG plays like DWade has over the last few years, it absolutely can. I don't even know why we are arguing about this
Once again, unless you are drafting in the top 10 that is not going to happen.
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Also, while trying to figure out what's wrong with the heat, alot of this is due to the spurs insane shooting percentage
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Once again, unless you are drafting in the top 10 that is not going to happen.
And what's your point? Chances are you're not getting a great player if you're not picking in the top ten no matter what

Dynasties don't last forever. Spurs are a huge anomaly
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Parker is just unconscious right now. Just carving the Heat up.
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whats the matter..found out your Superman isn't really that Super..
You are pointless to argue with.
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Parker is just unconscious right now. Just carving the Heat up.
He's been awesome. Everytime maybe even sniffs a possible run, he hits a shot
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See what I mean? 3rd quarter spurs scoring drought is in full effect.
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