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Old 05-16-2014, 06:29 PM   #326
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Ya Parker's health is the key. This time around Kawhi is now a man, and mills Diaw splitter and Marco are contributors as before there wasn't much other than the big 3, with just role players.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:31 PM   #327
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They looked like they were sleepwalking through the first half.

Certainly cant do that vs SA or it will be a 20-30 halftime lead for the Spurs.

The bottom is certainly true but we will just have to wait and see what happens.

With only 3 natural bigs, logic says they go small-ball for this series.
Force splitter off the court. That's what the heat did and he was a non factor. But that's where the spurs depth comes in as they can now adjust.
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True, but Okla's wings have given SA a world of problems in the past. I agree with you, but its not impossible to see how OKC can pull it off.
That is true that OKC exposes issues with the Spurs.
But they have a potentially fully healthy team and one that doesn't have the motivation issues of the Thunder.
Even if OKC's wings do work against the Spurs they still have to get stops on D and Ibaka being out harms that ability.

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They looked like they were sleepwalking through the first half.

Certainly cant do that vs SA or it will be a 20-30 halftime lead for the Spurs.

The bottom is certainly true but we will just have to wait and see what happens.

With only 3 natural bigs, logic says they go small-ball for this series.
I get that, but small ball isn't exactly going to harm the Spurs. They have Parker, Gino, Leonard, Green and Marco to move around, rest guys and play a pretty good small ball with.

The offensive impact they can replace, the defensive one will be much tougher.
Can they win? of course, but it will be a uphill battle and the Spurs aren't likely to have the same woes as the Clippers or the Grizz.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:37 PM   #329
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LikeABoss knows his hoops. I always thought you were just a football guy and thought all other sports were for pussies, lol.

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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
Boston should win the lotto to make up for Stern ****ing them over in the Duncan sweepstakes.

With that said, hopefully the Bucks will win the lotto and get the #1.
They need a franchise star and some substance to help the new ownership group get a new arena.
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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
I love the NBA. The talent disparity between it and college hoops is insanely drastic, so I've always loved the NBA product more. 6'6-7 foot guys moving like that, shooting like that, has always fascinated me. Just incredible freaks of nature. Having said that, there are some situations that really make me think its possibly is rigged, to an extent. I hope not, but some things make you wonder. Like OKC vs Clippers game 5.
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Boston should win the lotto to make up for Stern ****ing them over in the Duncan sweepstakes.
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What happened there I missed it?

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Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
Exactly why don't we get to see the balls drawn live anymore?
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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
To the parity perspective, I think that is the NBA's worst downfall. Everyone knew day 1 who had any shot to win it all. Low and behold, here we are. In that aspect, the NFL and MLB stand abov the NBA.
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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.


It's amazing to me how Joey Crawford is still allowed to coach a game that duncan is in. Ejecting him for no reason, Then challenging him to a fist fight while admittedly saying he hates him? Crawfords whistle is Timmy's nightmare. I'm convinced he still wants to fight him.

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Boston should win the lotto to make up for Stern ****ing them over in the Duncan sweepstakes.

With that said, hopefully the Bucks will win the lotto and get the #1.
They need a franchise star and some substance to help the new ownership group get a new arena.
They should give my Lakers the number 1 pick, to make up for Stern pulling that BS and vetoing the Chris Paul trade. That horse crap set the franchise back 5-6 years, when you really look back at it.
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The talent disparity has mostly been team created though. Most franchises get a star player and then either improve so much they never draft high enough to get someone to surround them with talent(Cavs and LeBron) or they blow the picks so badly it is almost comical(Fran Vazquez with the Magic, Aldridge traded for Ty Thomas)

OKC built their team with high picks and then smart trades and later drafting.
Indiana built their team with lower picks and developing those guys.
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I love the NBA. The talent disparity between it and college hoops is insanely drastic, so I've always loved the NBA product more. 6'6-7 foot guys moving like that, shooting like that, has always fascinated me. Just incredible freaks of nature. Having said that, there are some situations that really make me think its possibly is rigged, to an extent. I hope not, but some things make you wonder. Like OKC vs Clippers game 5.
The talent/athletes in todays game is pretty crazy.

I tweeted about the last part, i dont think series are rigged to an extent but late in games, it just makes you wonder.

I'm not sure it is but there's some really questionable calls that happen that make you go WTF.
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Exactly why don't we get to see the balls drawn live anymore?
Boston had the best shot at the #1 pick and lost out to the Spurs.
The Spurs who had just had a bad season due to David Robinson's injury.
It's widely considered that he gifted the Spurs Duncan in a similar way to the theory that he gifted the Knicks Ewing.

The Celts ends up with the #3(Chauncey Billups) and #6(Ron Mercer) picks and they as a team never truly found greatness again until the big 3.
Most feel that if Duncan had gone to Boston then Pitino never gets fired and the Celts have another dynasty.

Instead the Spurs had the dynasty as Duncan was the only top franchise type player in that draft.

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They should give my Lakers the number 1 pick, to make up for Stern pulling that BS and vetoing the Chris Paul trade. That horse crap set the franchise back 5-6 years, when you really look back at it.
The NBA owned the Hornets and that was a ****ty, ****ty trade and Demps honestly should have been fired for it.
That type of **** is how the NBA has the lack of parity that it does.
Dumb GM's trading stars for table scraps.
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To the parity perspective, I think that is the NBA's worst downfall. Everyone knew day 1 who had any shot to win it all. Low and behold, here we are. In that aspect, the NFL and MLB stand abov the NBA.
Yeah, it's why i like NHL over NBA, or at least the playoffs.

I mean, who thought Montreal would beat the Bruins. Boston was a damn machine this year yet they are gone. A hot goalie in hockey can win you a cup.

NBA has no parity at all, even though there's tons of good teams, at least in the West.
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, i do but i get ripped by others because i think the league is a bit rigged.

Not much parity, i mean SA/OKC and Indy/Miami, who saw that coming, everyone lol.

Watch the lottery next week or in 2 weeks, one of LA or Boston, maybe both will jump into the Top 3.
I don't think the same NBA teams rise to the top because it's rigged, it's because one or two players can control the entire thing. The best basketball players generally win.


One player controls the outcome more than any other sport. By far
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Exactly why don't we get to see the balls drawn live anymore?
I wish we could.

I mean, the Bulls get Rose when they had like a less than 2% chance at winning the lottery.

Pelicans get AD when the league just bought them.

Among some others, sketchy things.
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Yeah, it's why i like NHL over NBA, or at least the playoffs.

I mean, who thought Montreal would beat the Bruins. Boston was a damn machine this year yet they are gone. A hot goalie in hockey can win you a cup.

NBA has no parity at all, even though there's tons of good teams, at least in the West.
You have to have a superstar to win in the NBA. The refs give superstars calls so that they do not foul out and hurt ratings.
Plus those guys bring it home in crunch time.
Rarely do you see a team like the Pistons with Chauncey, Rip, Ben and Rasheed win a title. It's normally a Shaq-Kobe situation with 1-3 stars and really good role players.
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I wish we could.

I mean, the Bulls get Rose when they had like a less than 2% chance at winning the lottery.

Pelicans get AD when the league just bought them.

Among some others, sketchy things.
AD was drafted by the Hornets after the league had sold them.
He even said he wanted to be a Bobcat because he wanted to play for MJ.
PR wise it was a great move to have the team you just sold win the lotto and get the guaranteed star.

But it set Charlotte back and cost them some serious money.

Rose was obviously a rig job but I don't care because he went to my Bulls so suck it haters!
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You have to have a superstar to win in the NBA. The refs give superstars calls so that they do not foul out and hurt ratings.
Plus those guys bring it home in crunch time.
Rarely do you see a team like the Pistons with Chauncey, Rip, Ben and Rasheed win a title. It's normally a Shaq-Kobe situation with 1-3 stars and really good role players.
Agreed, but it's not because they get fouls. It's because they can impact the game in multiple ways. Look no further than Lebron leaving Cleveland.
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I don't think the same NBA teams rise to the top because it's rigged, it's because one or two players can control the entire thing. The best basketball players generally win.


One player controls the outcome more than any other sport. By far
This is true but thats what makes the NBA not great to other fans.

I would agree a goalie in the NHL is more impactful. LeBron as good as he is cant do it by himself.

Lundqvist, Price, and Quick have been insane this round carrying their team.

They literally control their teams fate.
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Agreed, but it's not because they get fouls. It's because they can impact the game in multiple ways. Look no further than Lebron leaving Cleveland.
Cleveland was a horribly built team though. As were the Nuggs with Melo, the Raps with Bosh, to an extent the Heat with Wade once Shaq petered out.

In the playoffs, if you cannot play tough defense against a star player without getting a foul called on you that player either lives at the FT line or you have to sacrifice a key piece of your team's plan due to foul trouble.
That's why so many players just started flopping to get calls.
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They should give my Lakers the number 1 pick, to make up for Stern pulling that BS and vetoing the Chris Paul trade. That horse crap set the franchise back 5-6 years, when you really look back at it.
I remember that veto, and I guess thems the breaks. Let us not forget LA has gotten multiple HOFers for pennies on the dollar or outright free from teams for 50 years?
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Cleveland was a horribly built team though. As were the Nuggs with Melo, the Raps with Bosh, to an extent the Heat with Wade once Shaq petered out.

In the playoffs, if you cannot play tough defense against a star player without getting a foul called on you that player either lives at the FT line or you have to sacrifice a key piece of your team's plan due to foul trouble.
That's why so many players just started flopping to get calls.
I know they were horribly put together, that's how much one dude can change a team
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I know they were horribly put together, that's how much one dude can change a team
LeBron is a beast but he doesnt make every team in the league to the Finals, he's not THAT good.

A goalie has more impact than one player in a starting five in the NBA, they literally control their teams fate.
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LeBron is a beast but he doesnt make every team in the league to the Finals, he's not THAT good.

A goalie has more impact than one player in a starting five in the NBA, they literally control their teams fate.
Tell that to bill Russell, MJ, Lebron, shaq, Kobe. You bring up a good point, but look how many games Cleveland won in brons last year, and look how many they won when he left.
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