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Old 10-14-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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Default Tea Party Crazies Shake the World & China Wants Off

China calls for "de-Americanized" world economy.
http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_ne...zed-world?lite

“If we are really rational, I cannot imagine why someone would dare to bear this kind of responsibility because any real default will have a huge impact not only on the U.S. and China, but on the global economy,” said Professor Zhao Longkai, a dean at the Guanghua School of Management at Beijing University. “It’s hard for us to imagine anyone can be that crazy to push the limit to that level.”


Meanwhile, this is the minority jerking the strings of America and the world:







How the hell did we get here?
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Why that's not happening.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...-best-guesses/

http://www.theguardian.com/local-gov...-debt-timebomb

China's current model is more unsustainable than ours. Now let's pull back a bit from the idea of trying to be more like them.
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Why that's not happening.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...-best-guesses/

http://www.theguardian.com/local-gov...-debt-timebomb

China's current model is more unsustainable than ours. Now let's pull back a bit from the idea of trying to be more like them.
I have never seen a point made on this board that you have been able to grasp.
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I have never seen a point made on this board that you have been able to grasp.
The sky is falling is rarely an accurate observation.
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I have never seen a point made on this board that you have been able to grasp.
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Swing and a miss.
Ah, so China is going to lead the world to a brave new reserve currency world because... while they can't even really tell anyone how far they are in debt, they're convinced that some heated political debate over public debt creates too much uncertainty.

And you're giving them an Amen!.
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Quit defending these nutjobs

Tea Partyers shout racist slur at White House cops: “Looks like something out of Kenya”

Wow. I’ve been to many a protest at the White House, and I’ve never seen people belittle the police like the Sarah Palin / Ted Cruz Tea Party protesters did today. There’s video, and it’s awful.

Calling the police protecting the White House “brownshirts,” laughing at them, and then one guy says “looks like something out of Kenya.”

The fanciful notion that President Obama was born in Kenya – he was in fact born in Hawaii – is a common racist slur that Tea Party adherents and other conservative Republicans use against the President.

Keep in mind these are the same people who brought confederate flags to the protest. As Peter Sylwester noted on Twitter, “Perhaps the Confederate flag mob will move next to reopen the Lincoln Memorial.”


As background, the Tea Party, which is responsible for shutting down the federal government, decided to hold a rally today protesting their own government shutdown. The rally was led by GOP Senator, and shutdown author, Ted Cruz, and shutdown supporter Sarah Palin. Ostensibly, they were upset that the World War II memorial was shut down in their shutdown. They were not picketing, however, the cessation of cancer treatments at NIH, or the lack of death benefits for US troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan after the shutdown began.

Yes, the Tea Party turned out in force to protest their own government shutdown, and they chose to march to the White House and blame the President for a shutdown they all wanted to happen, and had planned, in the first place.

http://americablog.com/2013/10/tea-p...ing-kenya.html
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Quit defending these nutjobs

Tea Partyers shout racist slur at White House cops: “Looks like something out of Kenya”

Wow. I’ve been to many a protest at the White House, and I’ve never seen people belittle the police like the Sarah Palin / Ted Cruz Tea Party protesters did today. There’s video, and it’s awful.

Calling the police protecting the White House “brownshirts,” laughing at them, and then one guy says “looks like something out of Kenya.”

The fanciful notion that President Obama was born in Kenya – he was in fact born in Hawaii – is a common racist slur that Tea Party adherents and other conservative Republicans use against the President.

Keep in mind these are the same people who brought confederate flags to the protest. As Peter Sylwester noted on Twitter, “Perhaps the Confederate flag mob will move next to reopen the Lincoln Memorial.”


As background, the Tea Party, which is responsible for shutting down the federal government, decided to hold a rally today protesting their own government shutdown. The rally was led by GOP Senator, and shutdown author, Ted Cruz, and shutdown supporter Sarah Palin. Ostensibly, they were upset that the World War II memorial was shut down in their shutdown. They were not picketing, however, the cessation of cancer treatments at NIH, or the lack of death benefits for US troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan after the shutdown began.

Yes, the Tea Party turned out in force to protest their own government shutdown, and they chose to march to the White House and blame the President for a shutdown they all wanted to happen, and had planned, in the first place.

http://americablog.com/2013/10/tea-p...ing-kenya.html
I'm not defending them. Just saying one should resist the temptation to fight paranoia with paranoia.
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Ah, so China is going to lead the world to a brave new reserve currency world because... while they can't even really tell anyone how far they are in debt, they're convinced that some heated political debate over public debt creates too much uncertainty.

And you're giving them an Amen!.
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I'm not defending them. Just saying one should resist the temptation to fight paranoia with paranoia.
Paranoia? So, the Tea Party fanatics haven't driven America to the edge of default and left the world shuddering in uncertainty? It's all just paranoia?
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Paranoia? So, the Tea Party fanatics haven't driven America to the edge of default and left the world shuddering in uncertainty? It's all just paranoia?
Yes, and refusing to pay bills you've already promised to pay is just "heated political debate".

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The sky is falling is rarely an accurate observation.
My point had nothing whatsoever to do with "being more like China." For you to infer it I take as an insult. You are either a very stupid person who cannot grasp the simplest idea, or you think that by twisting the words of others into their opposite meaning it might make you seem like a very clever little juvenile.

China is very rightfully paranoid over what America might do. The rest of the world is very rightfully paranoid as well. If America defaults, many economies could very conceivably crash, and crash big. It's not a joke. It shows how ignorant the fanatics who are pulling the GOP's strings truly are.
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You know what would be nice? Politicians actually fulfilling the promises they made while campaigning once they're in office. Doing what those who elected them want them to do.
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I'm not defending them. Just saying one should resist the temptation to fight paranoia with paranoia.
The right has terrorism and the left has this.
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You know what would be nice? Politicians actually fulfilling the promises they made while campaigning once they're in office. Doing what those who elected them want them to do.
I think the representatives of the Tea Party districts are doing exactly what their constituency wants them to do: They're bringing down the American government.
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Paranoia? So, the Tea Party fanatics haven't driven America to the edge of default and left the world shuddering in uncertainty? It's all just paranoia?
The sun rises.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...term-extension

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Only the memories change.
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The right has terrorism and the left has this.
What an odd idea. The Right Wing fanatics scream for thirty years that they want to "...shrink government until they can drown it in the bathtub" and then, when they bring the United States to the brink of default, change their demands all over the place, and still refuse to compromise, the other side is being "paranoid?" Maybe we're just taking you at your words?
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The administration and Senate leaders have been trying to force House Democrats into compromising on the budget proposal by warning that the government is running out of money and will have to cancel securities held by the Social Security funds if there is no extension of the debt limit.
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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...term-extension

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Only the memories change.
A short term extension until December? You think it's over? What will happen in December? I'll tell you what will happen: The Tea Party Fanatics will simply use this seven weeks to gather their hysteria for another major shutdown push over Obamacare, or spending, or whatever else suits their fancy at the moment. If you think this is normal government, you're a fool. This is government by crisis. Government's act like this right around the time they fall, or devolve into civil war. The U.S. government is polling at its worst in history and half the media are celebrating. The Tea Party fanatics think they're on a holy mission. A jihad. They've already proved they are very close to having enough power to get what they need.
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1985 for the deflection. Pathetic.
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A short term extension until December? You think it's over? What will happen in December? I'll tell you what will happen: The Tea Party Fanatics will simply use this seven weeks to gather their hysteria for another major shutdown push over Obamacare, or spending, or whatever else suits their fancy at the moment. If you think this is normal government, you're a fool. This is government by crisis. Government's act like this right around the time they fall, or devolve into civil war. The U.S. government is polling at its worst in history and half the media are celebrating. The Tea Party fanatics think they're on a holy mission. A jihad. They've already proved they are very close to having enough power to get what they need.
Debt Limit Grandstanding Is, Was, and Always Will Be. When the Executive and Legislative are in opposition, you can absolutely bank on it.

As far as short term extensions? Big deal. The last extension wasn't all that long ago. In my eyes it only gives you guys more opportunities to cry about the end being near only to be disappointed yet again.
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1985 for the deflection. Pathetic.
Lolz. Pointing out where in history something is the rule rather than the exception is "deflecting"

I can go back to 2006 again also if you like. Only difference there was Democrats didn't have the power to follow through on their empty threats.

It's pretty rich though to know that the guy who says others "deflect" would fall back on the argument of "Well at least my guys' threats were empty and hollow!"

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Debt Limit Grandstanding Is, Was, and Always Will Be. When the Executive and Legislative are in opposition, you can absolutely bank on it.

As far as short term extensions? Big deal. The last extension wasn't all that long ago. In my eyes it only gives you guys more opportunities to cry about the end being near only to be disappointed yet again.
You'd almost think it was the Left dreaming up these crises de jour the way you Right Wingers talk about it. I'm always fascinated at how the Right throws **** all over the place and then complains about the smell.
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