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Old 11-15-2013, 07:28 AM   #151
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Now, Boehner is sobbing that Obama has wrecked, "...the world's best health care system." Really? Doesn't John have access to the internet? Or Fact Check? Right now, we're at 38, according to the WHO. Below Costa Rica.

A baby born in El Salvadore has a better chance at life than one born in Detroit.

The GOP could do itself a favor by stop throwing all the absurd bs around.

John should have said, "The most expensive health care system in the world."
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:19 PM   #152
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:13 PM   #153
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Um.... no. The executive order doesn't "delay Obamacare."

And you can blame Obama for the shutdown all you want. The majority of voters don't agree.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:16 PM   #154
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Now, Boehner is sobbing that Obama has wrecked, "...the world's best health care system." Really? Doesn't John have access to the internet? Or Fact Check? Right now, we're at 38, according to the WHO. Below Costa Rica.

A baby born in El Salvadore has a better chance at life than one born in Detroit.

The GOP could do itself a favor by stop throwing all the absurd bs around.

John should have said, "The most expensive health care system in the world."
Only a complete idiot would think that the mess we've had for decades now is the "world's best health care system."


Oh, right. It's Boner.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:19 PM   #155
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The information-technology systems of Obamacare are still anywhere from 30 to 70 percent unfinished, an administration official testified today.

Admittedly, the answer from Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services deputy chief information officer, in a House hearing today isn’t really clear. At one point he seems to indicate 30 to 40 percent of the information-technology system supporting the Obamacare exchanges is unfinished; at another point it sounds more like he’s saying 60 to 70 percent. But the news is stunning either way: HealthCare.gov was launched with some massive parts unfinished, and they are still unfinished.The stunning part begins about three minutes into the above video. Representative Cory Gardner (R., Colo.) asks Chao what percentage of the system remains to be built.

Chao says, “I think it’s, uh, just an approximation, we’re probably sitting somewhere between 60 and 70 percent, because we still have to build the systems–”

Gardner responds incredulously, “Sixty to seventy percent that needs to be built, still?”

Chao responds, “Because we still have to build the payment systems to make payments to issuers in January.”

“Let me get this correct,” Gardner says, “60 to 70 percent of Healthcare.gov still needs to be built?”

Chao responds, “It’s not really Healthcare.gov, it’s the federally facilitated marketplace.”

Gardner: “But the entire system that the American people are being required to rely on . . . ”

Chao: “That part is there. HealthCare.gov, the online application, verification, determination, plan compare, getting enrolled, generating enrollment transactions, that’s 100 percent there. What I’m talking about–”

Gardner: “But the entire system is 60 to 70 percent away from being complete?”

Chao: “There’s the back-office systems, the accounting systems, the payment systems, they still need be built.”

If is so far from finished . . . why would a delay in the individual mandate be so unreasonable?
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:02 AM   #156
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Now, Boehner is sobbing that Obama has wrecked, "...the world's best health care system." Really? Doesn't John have access to the internet? Or Fact Check? Right now, we're at 38, according to the WHO. Below Costa Rica.

A baby born in El Salvadore has a better chance at life than one born in Detroit.

The GOP could do itself a favor by stop throwing all the absurd bs around.

John should have said, "The most expensive health care system in the world."
Sorry but infant mortality rates are subject to the fact in most countries babies have to be alive for over an hour to be considered a live birth. In the USA if a baby takes one breath it was a live birth.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:04 AM   #157
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The information-technology systems of Obamacare are still anywhere from 30 to 70 percent unfinished, an administration official testified today.

Admittedly, the answer from Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services deputy chief information officer, in a House hearing today isn’t really clear. At one point he seems to indicate 30 to 40 percent of the information-technology system supporting the Obamacare exchanges is unfinished; at another point it sounds more like he’s saying 60 to 70 percent. But the news is stunning either way: HealthCare.gov was launched with some massive parts unfinished, and they are still unfinished.The stunning part begins about three minutes into the above video. Representative Cory Gardner (R., Colo.) asks Chao what percentage of the system remains to be built.

Chao says, “I think it’s, uh, just an approximation, we’re probably sitting somewhere between 60 and 70 percent, because we still have to build the systems–”

Gardner responds incredulously, “Sixty to seventy percent that needs to be built, still?”

Chao responds, “Because we still have to build the payment systems to make payments to issuers in January.”

“Let me get this correct,” Gardner says, “60 to 70 percent of Healthcare.gov still needs to be built?”

Chao responds, “It’s not really Healthcare.gov, it’s the federally facilitated marketplace.”

Gardner: “But the entire system that the American people are being required to rely on . . . ”

Chao: “That part is there. HealthCare.gov, the online application, verification, determination, plan compare, getting enrolled, generating enrollment transactions, that’s 100 percent there. What I’m talking about–”

Gardner: “But the entire system is 60 to 70 percent away from being complete?”

Chao: “There’s the back-office systems, the accounting systems, the payment systems, they still need be built.”

If is so far from finished . . . why would a delay in the individual mandate be so unreasonable?
The delay of the individual mandate would bring the whole ACA crashing down. Without the young healthy people forced onto the rolls the prices people are being quoted right now will skyrocket. Thats why the business one was delayed and the individual was not. It's a tax on healthy Americans and it has to go through in order for poor people to get health care.
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The delay of the individual mandate would bring the whole ACA crashing down. Without the young healthy people forced onto the rolls the prices people are being quoted right now will skyrocket. Thats why the business one was delayed and the individual was not. It's a tax on healthy Americans and it has to go through in order for poor people to get health care.
Once again the fact that we already pay for the health care of the uninsured escapes you. And when they present to a hospital ER for treatment and can't pay it's a hidden tax on everybody.

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Old 11-20-2013, 03:59 PM   #159
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Obamacare is a GOP long con.

Origins: Heritage think tank --> Romneycare --> Obamacare.

GOP end game: Use youth anger over mandatory health insurance to their advantage in 2014 and 2016.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:27 AM   #161
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Fear not americans, the GOP have a solution to this mess!

CNN obtains GOP playbook to target Obamacare


Washington (CNN) - It's a playbook on the bruising field of health care politics, complete with "x's and o's."

The House Republican strategy memo, entitled "Because of Obamacare... I lost my insurance," offers samples of talking points, social media, videos, digital flyers, op-eds, and a fact sheet for GOP lawmakers doing battle against the president's signature legislative achievement.

Obtained by CNN, and reported first by Roll Call, the playbook was released late last month. A Republican source who provided the strategy memo to CNN says it will be updated and released to GOP House members Thursday.

"The administration now has a serious competence problem. Healthcare.gov is so much more than a website. The website should have been the easy part," the playbook reads.

The disclosure of the memo, produced by the office of House Republican Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers, comes amid a sustained Republican onslaught against the Affordable Care Act.

President Obama has noted the highly organized opposition to his signature legislative achievement.

“One of the problems we’ve had is one side of Capitol Hill is invested in failure,” Obama said at a Wall Street Journal event with some of the nation's top CEO's Tuesday.

White House spokesman Eric Schultz said the GOP's "18 page playbook of partisan attacks is 18 pages longer than their health care plan."

"In the playbook, there’s not a single word devoted to helping constituents enroll or offering an alternative idea to help Americans gain access to quality, affordable care," he added.

A spokesperson for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Democrats will continue to back the program.

"While Republicans continue to fixate on sabotaging health reform and root for failure, House Democrats will continue to stand tall in support of the Affordable Care Act, work to strengthen the health reform law as implementation continues, and ensure that millions of uninsured Americans get coverage," Drew Hammill said in a statement.

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Very good read on Healthcare and the market.

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publi...-profit-motive

Pretty balanced (from my perspective anyway)

Like many things, there is no right answer or easy solution. You can really only pick which direction to walk from where we're at.
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Now Obama just coincidentally wants to push back the employer mandate until after the November elections. Hmm, Obamacare is so good, but pushing back the mandate until after the next elections. , think about it. I know Obama's media and supporters don't get it since they don't want to and admit this farce and believe the garbage, but they're the smart ones though
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Now Obama just coincidentally wants to push back the employer mandate until after the November elections. Hmm, Obamacare is so good, but pushing back the mandate until after the next elections. , think about it. I know Obama's media and supporters don't get it since they don't want to and admit this farce and believe the garbage, but they're the smart ones though
You reinforce that notion every time you post.
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