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Old 10-14-2013, 06:28 PM   #51
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Because they are basically the 2008 Broncos?
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:50 PM   #52
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It's surprising you say this. You guys have decent run game to keep other teams off the field. You don't turn the ball over to give Manning more chances. You sack the QB. I think the Chiefs match up very well if the game goes the way you would like.

I guess the flip side is if Denver can score moderately well, then Alex Smith isn't going to scare anyone trying to catch up.
The offensive line isn't really blocking well. Normally that leads to turnovers, but if anyone is going to criticize Smith for playing conservative, then they better damn well acknowledge he has done a stellar job not turning the ball over with the kind of pressure he's been getting.

Yeah the run game is good, but Reid doesn't commit to it unless he needs a 4:00 offense late. A little better play by the O-line and some healthy TEs would do this team wonders.

As for Denver, I can't imagine a more jacked-up crowd and team than Denver will be if KC comes to town 9-0. These KC players just don't have experience handling that atmosphere. KC is already going to get the opponent's attention being undefeated. It really wouldn't surprise me to see them stumble next week against Houston. Watt and Foster are are going to be a handful if the Texan coaching staff doesn't screw it up.

Denver is just a more experienced, polished team. There's nothing wrong in admitting that while hoping KC wins.

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:10 PM   #53
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Well, we share the weakest SOS in the league thus far at .286 if I recall correctly. Obviously Denver & KC have done it much differently, Broncos with an amazing offense. KC with a amazing defense. That being said, Denver hasn't been close to healthy on defense thus far, missing 2-5 starters a majority of the season. KC has been healthy and their offense has been utterly embarrassing. Alex Smith threw for less than 50% completion yesterday and generally looked awful throwing any passes that were not a single read screen to Jamal Charles or a check down route to the TE or RB out of the backfield. They are really going to struggle to create points in the post-season with Smith at QB. Their most effective plays are draws and screens. They don't have any threat in the middle of the field at TE, and their WR's are not very good. Bowe is a good possession WR, but they are paying him like one of the best WR's in the league (5 yrs, $58 million), and he struggles to consistently get separation. Alex Smith will not turn the ball over, and he also will not throw balls unless a WR has a lot of separation.

Generally their schedule has been among the easiest in the league and it won't change over the next few weeks:

Houston at home
Cleveland at home
@ Buffalo
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@ Denver
San Diego at home
Denver at home
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@ Oakland
Indy at home
@ San Diego

That schedule has playoffs written all over it. They will probably be undefeated when we meet in Mile High. Playing Denver 2 times in 3 weeks might be extremely tough on them though.
I agree and a lot of fans have never seen defensive power as playoff bound. Why, I don't know.

But I also agree it's Alex Smith, the offense as a whole, has earned them some lack of respect. As a Bronco fan it's a matter of them being the Chiefs who really haven't done anything memorable since 1970 despite their record. See 1997.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:19 PM   #54
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Because they are basically the 2008 Broncos?
That's the Redskins - yards and FGs aplenty!
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:25 PM   #55
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Kansas City...

It's easier to have an off day on offense, like Denver did this past sunday. We still put up 35, and most weeks that will beat any team. If Kansas City's premier unit has an off day, the Chiefs lose. That is a ton of pressure to place on a defense.

I also tend to think KC is being overlooked because of the Broncos. Offense is sexy to the general public. Defense is only sexy to football nerds.

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Old 10-14-2013, 08:21 PM   #56
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seriosuly kaylore? no ****s were given
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #57
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The Chiefs also benefited greatly playing teams at the right time.
Playing the Jags who were starting Gabbert and without Blackmon
Playing the Titans without Locker
Potentially playing the Texans without Schaub

They haven't look impressive at all on offense really, and I doubt the defense will keep up their pace, just like I doubt the offense for the Broncos will keep up their pace.

It will be interesting to see what the Texans do. They were actually able to do decent on offense, heck Foster had like 200 total yards. The injury to Schaub and penalties/fumbles killed their shots.

Also, the Browns could be interesting. They actually have a good defense, and some playmakers on offense. QB sucks though...
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:06 PM   #58
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seriosuly kaylore? no ****s were given
Three pages says maybe a few were.
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Three pages says maybe a few were.
you probably booed the broncos at half time yesterday...turn in your elway jersey! kc lover!
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:14 PM   #60
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Potentially playing the Texans without Schaub
I think a lot of Texans fans would say that Schaub not playing would be an upgrade.
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:20 PM   #62
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I kind of have had the same feeling
Couldn't get past this, sorry.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:15 PM   #63
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I think a lot of Texans fans would say that Schaub not playing would be an upgrade.
Except Yates is terrible. Schaub is a decent QB at times at least.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:27 AM   #64
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Except Yates is terrible. Schaub is a decent QB at times at least.
Yates reminds me of Gannon in the KC days.

He doesn't look great, have a cannon, or even have one aspect of his game that's impressive but the team plays well for him.

I'm not saying he's going to end up like Gannon but I think the ability to have a team behind you means everything...
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:32 AM   #65
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I think it's more shocking that the AFCW went from worst division in the NFL to perhaps the best in 1 year...
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:02 AM   #66
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I think it's more shocking that the AFCW went from worst division in the NFL to perhaps the best in 1 year...
we will see....beating up on the NFC East isn't looking that impressive.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:35 AM   #67
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What BPC said, their Offense cannot attack downfield. Charles is their MVP, no one else is contributing. I did see Smith finally throw a back shoulder route to Bowe who caught it but other than that it is short drag routes, sprint throws to back in the flat, bunch formations close to LOS, WR screens at the LOS, throws to Charles well behind the LOS.

Smith pulls it down and runs just as much as Tebow used to, you can tell he has no faith in his OL to protect him on the deeper routes.

People keep saying that kFc is the best team to match up against us which is hysterical.

kFc has a great pass rush but that is about all they can do. Houston has set the edge better out of the 3-4 where he is wider than he was in the 4-3 but he fails to get off blocks in the run game and Hali disappears in games. They start getting their sacks late in games when bad QB's have to throw down field. I believe Manning can mitigate their pass rush and if KM shows up and plays like he did yesterday with a drop or 2 and a 2.8 ypc we could have trouble with them. But we have 3 great WR's and a TE who has taken the league by storm. Manning can get the ball out and slow their rush. Mix in some tough running and we win this 38 -24 if we turn it over 3 times.

kFc's D has been getting a ton of turnovers off that pressure, the balls get tipped and Berry is there to scoop it up.

If we have Woody and Ayers back for that game, they will not be able to run on us and Woodyard and Trevathan will make sure handled tackles and cover those short passes well. The key to stopping the chefs is to tackle well and limit gains on those short routes, take away the edge and limit their run gains then pressure Smith when he does take a longer drop and force him to make bad decisions.

We should have our Coverage issues addressed when Woodyard and Von are back and we get healthy on D.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:13 AM   #68
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KC isn't getting respect because they were 2-14 last year and people don't realize why they were 2-14 last year.

1. QB play. Not just ineffectual play, but turnovers. They did all they could not to throw the ball in the Baltimore game last year and should have beat them had Cassel not fumbled on QB sneak at the goal line of all things. Not one QB left from last season's misery of Cassel-Quinn-Stanzi.

2. Much better secondary depth this year. Secondary depth gives this team the ability to attack with their front seven. Sean Smith and Marcus Cooper were HUGE additions at CB as well as Abdullah and Demps at safety. Add to that Berry is actually playing terrific on the season, particularly against TEs.

Smith is and will be Mr. check down. It was pointed out in an earlier post that KC hasn't been down by more than 2 scores in any game this season. Well if your defense is playing lights out, why try to force the ball to receivers who can't separate? Be patient , the time will come.

While KC hasn't been bit by the injury bug like Denver, their TEs have been ravaged, which Ina short passing offense is death. A healthy Fasano and Kelce would help tremendously. Alas, Kelce just went on IR and Fasano has been out since week 1. McGrath, who is a scrub, has played alright, but even he has gotten dinged.

Personally, I expect Denver to sweep KC. I also expect a couple more losses, but a playoff berth, and a possible wildcard win (with this D, they should be in most games) would be pretty sweet following a 2-14 season.
Seems like you have pretty realistic expectations for your team. Personally, I see KC going 11-5 give or take a game and a WC team. I could also see KC grinding out a 17-13 type win against a Cincinnati caliber in the playoffs. I just don't see KC having the firepower to go through Denver and NE on the road. Still a huge accomplishment and turn around.
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The key to stopping the chefs is to tackle well and limit gains on those short routes, take away the edge and limit their run gains then pressure Smith when he does take a longer drop and force him to make bad decisions.
More then that, I think QB containment is the key. Almost every Chiefs sustained scoring drive has at least one if not multiple Alex Smith scrambles for first downs. We need to do a good job of QB containment and force Smith to throw the ball.

The fumbles that we have are really the only thing I'd be concerned with. Denver needs to take care of the ball. If they do that, should be fine.
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Just like 2009 Broncos a team will play the queefs like the Ravens did that year. A team is going to sit on the short routes and stop the run. KC is too inept to win a game when the team doesn't turn the ball over and forces deep throws.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:42 AM   #71
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Let them enjoy an early success...
that would be wonderful.

Here's a stadium full of white, goatee'd people (and a juggalo) showing their reverence and respect for Native American culture.



Even if I grew up in Kansas and was a die-hard fan, I don't think I could go to a game without being embarrassed.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:17 AM   #72
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There is no way I see the Chiefs hanging with the Broncos.

If they fall two scores down, it's likely over. That offense isn't built to play catchup.
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There is no way I see the Chiefs hanging with the Broncos.

If they fall two scores down, it's likely over. That offense isn't built to play catchup.
Plus Jamal Charles has blisters on his feet from too much work.

One of those bad boys pop at the wrong time and infected they go on an extended losing streak.
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Beating up on the NFC East isn't looking that impressive.
Agree as to the Giants obviously, but the Cowboys and Eagles are above average teams, the 3-3 Eagles have the #3 offense in the league ... and 2 of their 3 losses are to Denver and KC.

Broncos and chefs have 5 common opponents in 6 games (6th: us vs. Ravens, chefs vs. Titans), so the schedules have been even.

Honestly, I think their defense is for real. New coaching staffs, especially experienced ones, always seem to motivate underachievers like Poe and Jackson ... for awhile anyway. chefs are a mirror image of us, their defense is #1 by a wide margin, lead the league in sacks, interceptions and points allowed - 5 points fewer per game than #2, their LBs alone have 20 sacks already. That sounds tailor-made timing for our O-line, but I'm not that worried, Chris Kuper looked great this week, he might just save the day. Gotta decide where to put these guys, though ... I'm opposed to Vasquez at RT, he didn't sound too happy about playing there. How about Beadles at RT and Kuper at LG?
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Agree as to the Giants obviously, but the Cowboys and Eagles are above average teams, the 3-3 Eagles have the #3 offense in the league ... and 2 of their 3 losses are to Denver and KC.

Broncos and chefs have 5 common opponents in 6 games (6th: us vs. Ravens, chefs vs. Titans), so the schedules have been even.

Honestly, I think their defense is for real. New coaching staffs, especially experienced ones, always seem to motivate underachievers like Poe and Jackson ... for awhile anyway. chefs are a mirror image of us, their defense is #1 by a wide margin, lead the league in sacks, interceptions and points allowed - 5 points fewer per game than #2, their LBs alone have 20 sacks already. That sounds tailor-made timing for our O-line, but I'm not that worried, Chris Kuper looked great this week, he might just save the day. Gotta decide where to put these guys, though ... I'm opposed to Vasquez at RT, he didn't sound too happy about playing there. How about Beadles at RT and Kuper at LG?
oh yeah, there is no doubt that their defense is awesome as can be in this era of the NFL (passing game, rules, etc)
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