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Old 10-14-2013, 05:02 PM   #51
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So you've got one Senator. a lady who once held office in Alaska, and a rep from Minnesota who's retiring?

Oh, none of which said anything resembling your propagraphic?

Do you really want me to look up crazy Occupiers holding crazier signs? Would that prove anything?

Do I need to find House Dems crazy-jousting Bachmann? Do you doubt that I could?

Why is 90% of the argument always about the 10% on the margins?
Are you denying the Tea Party was awash with offensive racist signs when they first began their 'parades'?

Only after the outcry did they put their signs away. But you don't put your 'bigotry' and 'racism' away as easily. They just stop advertising it.

As for your offer to dig up the Occupy signs, if they are racist too, I'm equally against them. But they are not the ones threatening the economy if they don't get their way.

Stupid false equivalency.

And what does 'propagraphic' have to do with anything?
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:24 PM   #52
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Are you denying the Tea Party was awash with offensive racist signs when they first began their 'parades'?

Only after the outcry did they put their signs away. But you don't put your 'bigotry' and 'racism' away as easily. They just stop advertising it.

As for your offer to dig up the Occupy signs, if they are racist too, I'm equally against them. But they are not the ones threatening the economy if they don't get their way.

Stupid false equivalency.

And what does 'propagraphic' have to do with anything?
And Beavis and/or other conservatives coming in claiming your intolerance for their bigotry is, in fact, bigotry in 3...2...1...
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:32 PM   #53
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Why is 90% of the argument always about the 10% on the margins?
Well said.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:34 PM   #54
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I wouldn't say it's the root. Rather I'd say it's the fertilizer that a group of Billionaires used to grow their hate group in the guise of grass roots Patriotism to enthrall the ignorant, uneducated, bigoted masses who are angry, fearful and frustrated.
Then you have something in common with them. They would say the same of you. Hmmm
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So you've got one Senator. a lady who once held office in Alaska, and a rep from Minnesota who's retiring?

Oh, none of which said anything resembling your propagraphic?

Do you really want me to look up crazy Occupiers holding crazier signs? Would that prove anything?

Do I need to find House Dems crazy-jousting Bachmann? Do you doubt that I could?

Why is 90% of the argument always about the 10% on the margins?
Really?? That 10% of extremism is controlling the actions of a GOP majority Congress. Try again.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:59 PM   #56
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Really?? That 10% of extremism is controlling the actions of a GOP majority Congress. Try again.
Who was controlling every Senate Democrat in 2006?
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:09 PM   #57
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Who was controlling every Senate Democrat in 2006?
certainly not the fringe of our party.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:11 PM   #58
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Who was controlling every Senate Democrat in 2006?
Captain Equivalency strikes again!
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:18 PM   #59
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Captain Equivalency strikes again!
I'm just waiting for the explanation of how voting the way virtually every Democrat voted in 2006 makes you 'controlled by the fringe'

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Old 10-14-2013, 08:57 PM   #60
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Then you have something in common with them. They would say the same of you. Hmmm
That made no sense.

I take it 'They' are 'you'.
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Who was controlling every Senate Democrat in 2006?
We are talking about the current debacle that is an embarrassment to the vast majority of Americans.

Obviously, you're not one of them.
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You in 2nd grade?
Did this hit too close to home? Are you going as Captain America for Halloween?
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Always thoroughly amazed at the people who think a balanced budget is not obtainable, and how they vilify those who know it can be done.
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Always thoroughly amazed at the people who think a balanced budget is not obtainable, and how they vilify those who know it can be done.
Yeah, that's why they're being vilified.
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Always thoroughly amazed at the people who think a balanced budget is not obtainable, and how they vilify those who know it can be done.
balancing the budget is obtainable, it's just that idiots who think cuts alone will do it are easy targets.
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China calls for "de-Americanized" world economy.
http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_ne...zed-world?lite

If we are really rational, I cannot imagine why someone would dare to bear this kind of responsibility because any real default will have a huge impact not only on the U.S. and China, but on the global economy, said Professor Zhao Longkai, a dean at the Guanghua School of Management at Beijing University. Its hard for us to imagine anyone can be that crazy to push the limit to that level.


Meanwhile, this is the minority jerking the strings of America and the world:







How the hell did we get here?

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Always thoroughly amazed at the people who think a balanced budget is not obtainable, and how they vilify those who know it can be done.
A balanced budget is absolutely obtainable, but this is not the way to go about it. It's economic suicide.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:39 PM   #68
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Palin just posted this on her facebook, nice little catch 22 she's created:

(Obama) Defaulting on our national debt is an impeachable offense, and any attempt by President Obama to unilaterally raise the debt limit without Congress is also an impeachable offense.

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The people trying to control the costs will always be vilified by those who believe we can borrow our way to prosperity. The only thing to do is accomplish as much as you can with the time that you have to accomplish it in.

The thing that Republicans have going for them is that Obamacare's web site roll out is just the tip of the ice berg. Most people haven't seen their new premiums yet. When they do, that's when they'll really start to understand what this fight is all about and they'll question whose side they're on. The ones trying to derail this law, or the ones who just doubled and tripled their insurance premiums.

It doesn't take a crystal ball to see where this thing is going.
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The people trying to control the costs will always be vilified by those who believe we can borrow our way to prosperity. The only thing to do is accomplish as much as you can with the time that you have to accomplish it in.
Who do you imagine is against controlling costs?
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:42 AM   #71
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Who do you imagine is against controlling costs?
The people trying to bypass the sequester, for starters.
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The people trying to bypass the sequester, for starters.
So disagreement with a method is disagreement with a goal now?
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So disagreement with a method is disagreement with a goal now?
Edmund Burke said it best: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

I'd take that same sentiment and apply it towards the current fight, though I don't think people who support the ACA are evil - just misguided and unaware of the real damage that it's set to cause.

As far as disagreements with goals/tactics - what I've learned in life, if nothing at all, is that just getting out there and doing something beats every carefully calculated strategy that doesn't get off the ground due to this or that criteria that isn't just right.

People are welcome to disagree with methods all they want, but if in the disagreement over methods they forget that there's a fight, then what use are they in that fight? None that I can see.

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Edmund Burke said it best: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

I'd take that same sentiment and apply it towards the current fight, though I don't think people who support the ACA are evil - just misguided and unaware of the real damage that it's set to cause.

As far as disagreements with goals/tactics - what I've learned in life, if nothing at all, is that just getting out there and doing something beats every carefully calculated strategy that doesn't get off the ground due to this or that criteria that isn't just right.

People are welcome to disagree with methods all they want, but if in the disagreement over methods they forget that there's a fight, then what use are they in that fight? None that I can see.

People are welcome to disagree with methods? Good I'm glad we agree on that. So why are you complaining because people are complaining about the sequester method?
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We are talking about the current debacle that is an embarrassment to the vast majority of Americans.

Obviously, you're not one of them.
Were Democrats an embarrassment in 2006?
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