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Old 10-14-2013, 10:38 AM   #26
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You'd almost think it was the Left dreaming up these crises de jour the way you Right Wingers talk about it. I'm always fascinated at how the Right throws **** all over the place and then complains about the smell.
Uh, I'm pretty sure I just said the whole thing was inevitable when power is split. Which is pretty much the opposite of what you just said.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:38 AM   #27
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/340...the-Quran-down

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:08 AM   #28
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"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
Which would be laughable, if this was not an organization backed by billionaires.
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Uh, I'm pretty sure I just said the whole thing was inevitable when power is split. Which is pretty much the opposite of what you just said.
Bull****. Split? No. We now have a growing contingent on the Right that no longer believes in our form of government. This is why your pathetic deflections of "precedence" are such a fail.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:58 AM   #30
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Bull****. Split? No. We now have a growing contingent on the Right that no longer believes in our form of government. This is why your pathetic deflections of "precedence" are such a fail.
You're saying control of the government isn't split?
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:19 PM   #31
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"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.
That's an ignorant and irresponsible statement.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:47 PM   #32
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That's an ignorant and irresponsible statement.
Yep. Disturbing isn't it.

But the TeaParty idiots ate it up.
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Yep. Disturbing isn't it.

But the TeaParty idiots ate it up.
Do you honestly believe similar crazy doesn't live over on the Occupy side of the street?
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You can find crazy on all sides.

What's your point?
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The roots of the Tea Party movement, in case we forget.

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Old 10-14-2013, 02:15 PM   #36
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Yep no big deal...

Crisis cost? Lost jobs and maybe another recession

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From the fiscal cliff to sequestration to the current shutdown debt ceiling debate: What's the cost of the U.S. government careening from crisis to crisis?


About 900,000 jobs lost ... and the potential for another recession.

That's the conclusion of a new report prepared by research firm Macroeconomic Advisers for the Peter G. Peterson Foundation.

The report examines the macroeconomic effects of the various political battles between Congress and the White House over the last few years. It concludes that the resulting "fiscal drag, in combination with heightened fiscal uncertainty, has slowed the annualized rate of growth in the nation's gross domestic product by as much as 1 percentage point since 2010."

In addition, the report concludes that crisis-driven government and the resulting fiscal policy uncertainty has directly harmed the U.S. economy by increasing the unemployment rate by 0.6 percent, or the equivalent of 900,000 jobs.

The report seems to quantify what many executives and economists have argued in the last few weeks: that the inability of Congress and the White House to come to terms on budget and debt issues creates uncertainty that discourages investment and ultimately hurts the national economy.

"And while the government shutdown is, for now, more economic inconvenience than catastrophe, the consequences stemming from the failure to increase the debt ceiling could cause the next recession, even if the U.S. does not default on its debt," the report warned.

The entire report is available here.

The Peterson foundation was established by billionaire Peter G. Peterson, founder of the Blackstone Group and a commerce secretary under then-President Richard Nixon, to promote awareness of fiscal issues.

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The roots of the Tea Party movement, in case we forget.

They sound kinda like Joe Biden.
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You can find crazy on all sides.

What's your point?
What's the point? That is my point.
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I wouldn't say it's the root. Rather I'd say it's the fertilizer that a group of Billionaires used to grow their hate group in the guise of grass roots Patriotism to enthrall the ignorant, uneducated, bigoted masses who are angry, fearful and frustrated.
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They sound kinda like Joe Biden.
Nah, it's all Tea Party, Cruz, Palin and Bachmann.....among others.

When will the GOP say 'enough' and isolate these bigots and idiots before they become the face of the GOP??
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I wouldn't say it's the root. Rather I'd say it's the fertilizer that a group of Billionaires used to grow their hate group in the guise of grass roots Patriotism to enthrall the ignorant, uneducated, bigoted masses who are angry, fearful and frustrated.
Sounds about right.
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Nah, it's all Tea Party, Cruz, Palin and Bachmann.....among others.

When will the GOP say 'enough' and isolate these bigots and idiots before they become the face of the GOP??
So you've got one Senator. a lady who once held office in Alaska, and a rep from Minnesota who's retiring?

Oh, none of which said anything resembling your propagraphic?

Do you really want me to look up crazy Occupiers holding crazier signs? Would that prove anything?

Do I need to find House Dems crazy-jousting Bachmann? Do you doubt that I could?

Why is 90% of the argument always about the 10% on the margins?
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Do you honestly believe similar crazy doesn't live over on the Occupy side of the street?
With any political clout? No. Zero.
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With any political clout? No. Zero.
Who are you talking about?
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Look at the Captain America guy in the background. Bwahahahaaaa

10-1 he's got a custom made fathead of Ron Paul in teabags & minuteman hat in his mom's basement right above his Cheetos stained futon.

Bwahahahahaaaa.
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Who are you talking about?
There are lots of crazy people in this world. Look at yourself, for example. How many of them have billionaire "think tanks" backing their cockamamie world view and funding elections for them?
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Look at the Captain America guy in the background. Bwahahahaaaa

10-1 he's got a custom made fathead of Ron Paul in teabags & minuteman hat in his mom's basement right above his Cheetos stained futon.

Bwahahahahaaaa.
You in 2nd grade?
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There are lots of crazy people in this world. Look at yourself, for example. How many of them have billionaire "think tanks" backing their cockamamie world view and funding elections for them?
Yet have a think-tank driven almost entirely by the Trillion dollar Bureaucratic Regime, and you'll quote it verbatim all day, every day.
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Yet have a think-tank driven almost entirely by the Trillion dollar Bureaucratic Regime, and you'll quote it verbatim all day, every day.
In other words, your point was, once again, complete bull****, so in response you'll quickly try and change the subject. Same ole, same ole.
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In other words, your point was, once again, complete bull****, so in response you'll quickly try and change the subject. Same ole, same ole.
I'd just like something more specific than some rally signs. Everyone has those. But if you want to go there, we can get all truthered up if you want. I mean we all know your crazies excel in that particular area of study.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...Bush_knew.html
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