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Old 11-07-2013, 10:23 AM   #26
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This is really bad news for Obama,what will happen when he runs for re election in 2016? Oh wait.....
Gallup has his approval lower than Bush's was at this point (heading into 2006.)

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-and-bush...214919924.html

If that tells you anything.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:47 AM   #27
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Your point is what exactly? This is obama's last term.You should focus instead on the repub polls in congress. And the dipshets like cruz who are sinking your party.
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Your point is what exactly? This is obama's last term.You should focus instead on the repub polls in congress. And the dipshets like cruz who are sinking your party.
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Your point is what exactly? This is obama's last term.You should focus instead on the repub polls in congress. And the dipshets like cruz who are sinking your party.
I guess next you'll tell me the 2006 Congressional Elections had nothing to do with Bush.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:47 PM   #30
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I guess next you'll tell me the 2006 Congressional Elections had nothing to do with Bush.
look at what happened in virginia as a greater indicator. you tards keep thinking that simply opposing obamacare is going to get you some votes. even with all the problems that obamacare is having you are still sinking
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look at what happened in virginia as a greater indicator. you tards keep thinking that simply opposing obamacare is going to get you some votes. even with all the problems that obamacare is having you are still sinking
Cucinelli went from down 12-15 points a few weeks ago (during the shutdown) to only losing by 2 as the full Progressive Wonder of Obamacare/Healthcare.gov came into focus.

You can hold up that nailbiter victory all you want. Unfortunately the trend that caused it to close so quickly is still ongoing

http://www.denverpost.com/politics/c...icies-canceled

With no relief in sight.

But I can see why you want to focus so much on a 2-point win in Virginia. There's a state just a little ways north where the Democrats didn't do so well.
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But I can see why you want to focus so much on a 2-point win in Virginia. There's a state just a little ways north where the Democrats didn't do so well.
It was also the first time the D's had won the Governor's Mansion in Virginia with a D precedent in office since like forever.

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His election also has national implications. McAuliffe is a very close personal friend of the Clintons, not just a political ally. If Hillary Clinton runs for President, he will pull out all stops to make sure she carries Virginia. There are 18 states plus D.C. that have gone Democratic in every presidential election since 1992. Together they have 242 electoral votes. Add in New Mexico, which Obama won by 15% in 2008 and 10% in 2012, and Virginia (which Obama also won twice), and the total is 260 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win. In other words, if McAuliffe can deliver Virginia, the Republicans pretty much have to win all the other swing states, like Nevada, Colorado, Missouri, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:10 PM   #33
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I don't think Obamacare matters much. The American people were very pissed about the shutdown. They still are. Many, if not most, see this Obamacare hysteria for what it is, simply another vehicle through which the Right can mercilessly beat down the president. They also, rightly, realize, that if it wasn't Obamacare, it would be something else. And it will be something else, once the Obamacare furor subsides. Americans are sick of attack politics. The country is hurting. The majority are hurting. They want an effective government response. They want effective change. The Right can only provide partisan hysteria and constant attacks on government itself. Time for reasonable Americans to put the party of secessionists, fascists and anarchists on the shelf.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:35 PM   #34
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Lots of ways to make history.

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11...w-jersey_race/

Even they didn't anticipate him hitting 60%. For some perspective, McAuliffe didn't even get a majority of the vote in Virginia. Somehow you'll spin that as more important, though.
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Christie is a popular governor there and would be a good person for the R's to run.

And it was a three way race in Virginia, FWIW. Third party candidate took 7%.

There is no spinning I need to do. The way the electorate is set up, the Dems are pretty much already there. The R's saving grace is getting a guy like Christie who could help in NJ and the NE and perhaps pull something from the Midwest/be competitive in the rust belt. If not, they are toast. . . again.
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Cucinelli went from down 12-15 points a few weeks ago (during the shutdown) to only losing by 2 as the full Progressive Wonder of Obamacare/Healthcare.gov came into focus.

You can hold up that nailbiter victory all you want. Unfortunately the trend that caused it to close so quickly is still ongoing

http://www.denverpost.com/politics/c...icies-canceled

With no relief in sight.

But I can see why you want to focus so much on a 2-point win in Virginia. There's a state just a little ways north where the Democrats didn't do so well.
And? He still lost. The teabaggers popularity is at an all time low. there is civil war going on in the repub party right now. You have cruz reading dr. seus for christ sake.What if any indication do you have that your party isn't going to lose major seats next year?
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And? He still lost. The teabaggers popularity is at an all time low. there is civil war going on in the repub party right now. You have cruz reading dr. seus for christ sake.What if any indication do you have that your party isn't going to lose major seats next year?
No chance Republicans lose the House. Question is, can they gain the Senate. The longer this fiasco goes on, the more likely that becomes.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:29 PM   #38
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And? He still lost. The teabaggers popularity is at an all time low. there is civil war going on in the repub party right now. You have cruz reading dr. seus for christ sake.What if any indication do you have that your party isn't going to lose major seats next year?
Not just that...McAuliffe was a terrible candidate. The very fact that he was up 12 points at ANY point in the race should be embarrassing to the Republicans and more specifically the Tea Party. He never should have won in the first place. They could have won handily with any fill-in-the-blank run-of-the-mill Virginia republican, but instead they chose a far right Governor Ultrasound protege.

The Republican Party and its donors then chose to cut off the flow of money to the campaign. The funniest part is that the Tea Partiers, who always bill themselves as anti-establishment, are now whining that they didn't get enough support from...the establishment.



Sorry, Beavis, you mental midget. Nobody is trumpeting a two point victory. They're laughing about the fact that, once again, as has happened several times over the past year or so, the Republicans lost an easily winnable race because of their alignment with idiot-logues. This will continue to happen, Obamacare or no. Enjoy! I know I will!
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:08 PM   #39
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psssstt..beavis...



McConnell smacks down tea party groups: They mislead for profit

Sen. Mitch McConnell is done playing nice.

McConnell smacked down the tea party in an interview with Wall Street Journal opinion writer Peggy Noonan published Thursday evening.

The Tea Party is made up of people who are “angry and upset at government,” the Senate minority leader said, but they’ve been mislead by their leaders.

“They’ve been told the reason we can’t get to better outcomes than we’ve gotten is not because the Democrats control the Senate and the White House but because Republicans have been insufficiently feisty. Well, that’s just not true, and I think that the folks that I have difficulty with are the leaders of some of these groups who basically mislead them for profit,” he said.

When the tea party helped Sen. Rand Paul defeat a McConnell-approved candidate in a Kentucky Republican primary in 2010, McConnell made nice with the Senate’s tea party wing and looked to shore up his right flank, hiring a Paul-family friend, Jesse Benton, to run his re-election campaign. A tea partier challenged him from the right, but McConnell leads in polls by a 47 points.

Then the shutdown hit and all bets were off—McConnell quickly became a target when he brokered a deal with Democrats to reopen the federal government without taking down Obamacare.

And the chips fell swiftly.

The Senate Conservatives Fund, founded by former South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, slammed McConnell, endorsed his Republican primary challenger, and later began running ads against McConnell.

“So now Mitch McConnell is negotiating the Republican surrender,” the group’s executive director, Matt Hoskins, said. “He gave the Democrats a blank check back in July when he signaled he would do anything to avoid a shutdown and now Democrats can demand whatever they want. It’s humiliating.”

The Tea Party Nation withdrew their endorsement of the Senate minority leader in his primary race; the Senate Conservatives Fund endorsed McConnell’s tea party challenger. Western Representation PAC, a tea party-aligned group, slammed McConnell in a fundraising email titled “A Parliament of Traitors and Whores.”


Even Sarah Palin wrote a Facebook post pointing fingers at McConnell and his reelection race.

“We’re going to shake things up in 2014,” she wrote in part. “Soon we must focus on important House and Senate races. Let’s start with Kentucky.”

So, with little tea party support left to lose, McConnell is hitting back.

The Senate Conservatives Fund “has elected more Democrats than the Democratic Senatorial Committee over the last three cycles,” he told the Journal.

And that race in Alabama, where a birther, tea party activist lost to a conservative business-interest-aligned Republican?

That was a significant election, McConnell said, explaining that Republicans can’t govern if they can’t win elections. And to win, parties must “run candidates that don’t scare the general public, [and] convey the impression that we could actually be responsible for governing, you can trust us—we’re adults here, we’re grown-ups,” he said.

But McConnell isn’t worried about the primary challenge his tea party opponents are hoping to make more difficult.

“I don’t wanna be overly cocky, but I’m gonna be the Republican nominee next year,” he told Noonan.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/mcc...wn-tea-party-0
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Wolf Blitzer is polling lower than Obama. Congress is polling lower than Obama.
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I don't think Obamacare matters much. The American people were very pissed about the shutdown. They still are. Many, if not most, see this Obamacare hysteria for what it is, simply another vehicle through which the Right can mercilessly beat down the president. They also, rightly, realize, that if it wasn't Obamacare, it would be something else. And it will be something else, once the Obamacare furor subsides. Americans are sick of attack politics. The country is hurting. The majority are hurting. They want an effective government response. They want effective change. The Right can only provide partisan hysteria and constant attacks on government itself. Time for reasonable Americans to put the party of secessionists, fascists and anarchists on the shelf.
People ARE pissed. I have a neighbor that's a tea party conservative that lost a ton of money on the shutdown. Money he'll never recoup being a gov. contractor. His Christmas is wiped out. He wants Cruz's head on a pike.
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