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In sympathetic terms, a Conservative believes in conserving what he/she believes are the strengths handed down to us through 'tradition.' You and I didn't create individual property rights or market freedom. We were given that via tradition. We only really choose which direction to take it from here. Quote:
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But the larger 'Progressive' argument of "whatever's new or different goes", is viewed with suspicion by Conservatives. And it's not hard to see why. |
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In the real world that definition doesn't work. Because the way you define it, everyone would be in both camps all the time. I mean you're basically calling yourself a Crunchy Entitlement State Conservative. ![]() "Conservative" vs "Liberal" can only be applied to people's views on foundational principles. You're trying to define it as Changiness vs Non-Changiness. Which really makes no sense when you think about it. There are many things today's most radical progressives would fight to protect from change. And things most hardcore conservatives would love to upend tomorrow. |
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![]() Yeah. John Locke and Mao. A couple of liberals.
The sad thing is that the ignorant troglodytes in the Tea Party really believe this kind of ****. |
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![]() Ever wonder why the sanctity of private property is the rallying cry of the New, Reactionary Right? It's because the billionaires backing the movement own most of it.
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Concentration of wealth is just a symptom, not the disease. Centrally-commanded political crony-capitalism is at the heart of the matter. |
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![]() I'm tellin ya man, every conservative fancies themselves a millionaire who just missed out because of... (you can fill in the blank with whatever the bullet point du jour is: "socialism", Obama/Clinton/Carter, "entitlements", "the gays"...)
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![]() I'm comfortable. I don't need to be a millionaire. I just think a fiscally conservative policy (something we've never had in my lifetime) would be good for the country. Wasteful spending hurts everybody. High taxes hurt the middle class. More and more of the lower middle class are becoming part of the dependent class.
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![]() It's bad fiscal policy by the Republicans and Democrats. The Republicans were worse over the last 30 years, and nobody else of real importance has stood for a true conservative fiscal policy of a balanced budget.
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If you have high unemployment, stumbling GDP and slow growth you do what is best for the greatest number of your people until the economy rebounds. If that includes higher debt, so be it. IMO, the purpose of government is to serve the interests, in other words, the general welfare of your people. Not to fulfill the requirements of an ideology. |
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But you are completely wrong about the founding principals of our country and other fledgling western democracies (such as France). Modern western society is built on the idea of social equality, not any particular economic system. Most importantly, our society was set up to abolish the idea of inherited privileged and rule via nobility, clergy and others and to extinguish associated inequalities between individuals. Western societies employ significantly different economies, though they all share one common thread: a non-extremist economy. There are no laissez-faire economies. There are no communist economies. Quote:
The other issue here is that the direction our society is going is not toward command & control. It's moving is exactly the opposite direction. And it's not a command and control economy that will lead to monarchy and a nobility system (i.e. feudalism). It's unrestrained capitalism. Feudalism is the end result of laissez-faire. Laissez-faire leads to a vast disparity in wealth. Once only a miniscule minority of folks have all the wealth and all the land, then all you have is land lords and serfs. Quote:
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But somewhere along the way, we went from questions of whether companies should take basic safety measures to preserve workers' lives and limbs, to mandates on what kind of contraceptive measures they must provide in their private health plans. We have a regulate-first ask, ask questions later culture in Washington. And they have no clue what kinds of impacts they have outside their own little silk cocoons. The only way they'll be stopped is by someone saying enough is enough. In the right season, the 'conservative' function is just as important as the progressive one. |
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What happened in 2008? The monied interests won big, everyone else lost huge because we, as a society, weren't keeping the abuses that led to that meltdown in check. I agree there is a season for everything. We've had 30 years of conservative season that have eroded the progress of the 20th century. |
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