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Old 03-10-2017, 08:51 AM   #1
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I was reading the article on the Denver Post yesterday about how the Broncos did an audit and found over 2,000 people that had season tickets but didn't attend a game last year so they won't renew their tickets. The article mentioned there are 22,000 season ticket holders....I was shocked by that number. I figured of the stadium capacity about 65,000 were season ticket holders. Is it true that only 22,000 are and the other 50,000 aren't? Doesn't seem right to me.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:58 AM   #2
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Season ticket holders generally have more than one seat. I forget the exact number, but about 2/3 of the stadium is season tickets IIRC. The stadium financing deal capped the number of season tickets.
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...sometimes math is hard

when i had season tickets, there were just under 30,000 season ticket holders (i had four seats).
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...sometimes math is hard

when i had season tickets, there were just under 30,000 season ticket holders (i had four seats).
Right, I didn't take the paragraph I read to mean it that way. Obviously if they meant 22,000 with most of them having 2-4 seats that makes sense.
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also, i don't know if the broncos count club seating and luxury boxes in that total. That is revenue the team doesn't have to share with the rest of the NFL.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:51 AM   #6
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Season ticket holders generally have more than one seat. I forget the exact number, but about 2/3 of the stadium is season tickets IIRC. The stadium financing deal capped the number of season tickets.
The number of seats in the stadium for season ticket holders is quite a bit higher than 2/3rds. I can't find it anywhere right now either, but I remember previous iterations of the Broncos website stating that over 90% of tickets were for season ticket holders.
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Odd that they would cancel tickets for non-use that were bought/paid for.
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And considering there's only a handful of no-shows at any given game, I wonder how they know who went and who didn't if the seat was filled.
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And considering there's only a handful of no-shows at any given game, I wonder how they know who went and who didn't if the seat was filled.
Tickets get scanned as you go in now, don't they? If so, these are just tickets that were never scanned during the season. Clearly they wouldn't know if the ticketholder themselves were the ones using them.
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And considering there's only a handful of no-shows at any given game, I wonder how they know who went and who didn't if the seat was filled.
Guessing they're only looking at people who sold all their seats back through the Ticket Exchange.

That'd be the only way to police it. I haven't read this though. If true, people are going to lose their **** over it. You'd think they'd at least warn of the policy the season before enforcing it.
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Tickets get scanned as you go in now, don't they? If so, these are just tickets that were never scanned during the season. Clearly they wouldn't know if the ticketholder themselves were the ones using them.
Yeah, they really only know which tickets came in. That said, I'd have a hard time believing there were 2000 paying ST holders that just let their tickets sit idle all year. They'd have to be talking about people just selling them all and never attending.

Wish I knew where to find the article.
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Odd that they would cancel tickets for non-use that were bought/paid for.
I think it's more they don't want people to buy tickets and then just re-sell them to make money off them.

They did not take the pair I have that I just sell, so I'm happy. They've already applied my Ticket Exchange balance to my invoice.
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Guessing they're only looking at people who sold all their seats back through the Ticket Exchange.

That'd be the only way to police it. I haven't read this though. If true, people are going to lose their **** over it. You'd think they'd at least warn of the policy the season before enforcing it.

Good point. I sell mine, when I do sell, through Stub Hub. I'm not sure this is a big enough problem to cause what will surely be an upheaval. I waited for my seats fair and square, so should everyone else.
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Found it:

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/09...ets-wait-list/

Yup, it looks like they're coming down on people reselling them all online:

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Smyth said the team knows whoís been selling all their tickets by tracking secondary market sales. Prior to the ho-hum 2016 season, Broncos tickets sold on the secondary market for two to three times their face value at an average of $454, according to TicketIQ.
This is huge news. Hopefully too many don't get burned.
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I think it's more they don't want people to buy tickets and then just re-sell them to make money off them.

They did not take the pair I have that I just sell, so I'm happy. They've already applied my Ticket Exchange balance to my invoice.
I checked a few days ago and didn't see an invoice amount yet.
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So is there a way to check where you are on the waiting list for season tickets?
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I checked a few days ago and didn't see an invoice amount yet.
I checked after I saw this thread, and it showed a fully paid 2017 invoice for me.
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I checked after I saw this thread, and it showed a fully paid 2017 invoice for me.
Oh yeah, it shows as an already completed invoice for me. I must've had enough credit built up. Knew it was close. I didn't think to look under completed invoices.

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So is there a way to check where you are on the waiting list for season tickets?
Emailing the ticket office is easiest.
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Found it:

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/09...ets-wait-list/

Yup, it looks like they're coming down on people reselling them all online:



This is huge news. Hopefully too many don't get burned.
More and more teams are doing this. They see a lot of potential new revenue that they are missing out on, so they are either forcing folks to use their own ticket exchange instead of stubhub/scalpers, jacking up the prices for season ticket holder accounts that they know to be resellers or they are taking away their tix altogether.
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More and more teams are doing this. They see a lot of potential new revenue that they are missing out on, so they are either forcing folks to use their own ticket exchange instead of stubhub/scalpers, jacking up the prices for season ticket holder accounts that they know to be resellers or they are taking away their tix altogether.
I can see why they're doing it. But you'd think they'd have given a heads up the offseason prior. Imagine the sob stories there'll be about family illnesses and one-year circumstances that led to not being able to attend for one season.

And most will probably be bull****. But still. Gonna be some angry former ST holders when they find out.
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One thing I've learned: if there's still a healthy wait list for tix, customer service is an afterthought at best.
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I was wondering how they would do this. They wouldn't/shouldn't care if you sold them all on ticket exchange as the Broncos get their cut of that. I'm sure its the long term Ticket Brokers who they know only sell them off. They pass this off as 'for the fans' but they just really want their cut of the action.
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Yup, it looks like they're coming down on people reselling them all online:



This is huge news. Hopefully too many don't get burned.
Why if you sell to secondary market and not using Ticket Exchange, don't put your seat # and maybe put 1 row above your actual seat. Just in case, I am paying my balance this weekend or next week. I sold a lot on Ticket Exchange but also gave a few games to people I know in Colorado. Once I am no longer broke, I will be attending games. This year!
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I was wondering how they would do this. They wouldn't/shouldn't care if you sold them all on ticket exchange as the Broncos get their cut of that. I'm sure its the long term Ticket Brokers who they know only sell them off. They pass this off as 'for the fans' but they just really want their cut of the action.
I think it includes the exchange sales though.
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