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Old 09-22-2013, 02:49 PM   #51
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Hilarious thread title.

Watch Rand Paul actually try to talk to black people:




They're rolling their eyes at him - it's embarrassing to see this delusional, patronizing ass get up in front of people who actually know history.




Frankly, Rand Paul is just as racist and ignorant as his dad. He's not getting the black vote anytime soon. My advice: stick to white psuedo-intellectual males who read mises.org

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Old 09-22-2013, 03:55 PM   #52
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you've already been "corrected multiple times.
lol

I'm always amused at how condescending progressives are.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:42 PM   #53
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The only way to shrink the influence of corporations over government is to shrink the influence of government itself. Government is great when kept chained to its proper societal role. It's awful, though, when it grows too big, and can reach as far as it wishes.
JC,limited government is what corporations want. it's what they've always wanted. you're just playing into their hands. our founding fathers set this gov up for the people not the koch brothers who fund every tea party movement you support. the governments proper role is doing what the **** its people tell it to do. I pay taxes just like everybody else if I want my government to open up donut stands you better believe I'm going to push for it. when government has no power to influence what's going on,such as regulations,corporations will bend you over like a cheap 5 dollar whore. liberatarians believe to let corporations do what they want to do,and believe me these corporations couldn't give two ****s about you or this country.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:44 PM   #54
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lol

I'm always amused at how condescending progressives are.
As if libertarians, with their faith that their dogma would win the day if only people understood it, aren't dripping with arrogance and insist that all other ideologies are completely irrational.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:33 AM   #55
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It's all the usual stuff. Nothing new under the sun. Business is bad. Government is good. Everything would be great if it weren't for those pesky humans and their pesky desire to make money. Why can't everyone be like me and not care about money, and just care about people. Hey look at all the stuff I have from all these evil corporations.

And then I get told I'm not engaging honestly... go figure.
If you think that's an honest assessment of the progressive position, you're kidding yourself. Neither business nor government are inherently bad or good. It's like the preamble of the Constitution pointed out, "...promote the general welfare." What I think that means is that you do what is best for the most. Does it promote the general welfare to have a rigged system where 95% of profits go to 1% of the people?
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:11 PM   #56
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lol

I'm always amused at how condescending progressives are.
Oh please, this is just more useless prattle. Your incorrect interpretation was corrected. If you feel threatened by that innocuous terminology (clearly you do) perhaps you should take a closer look inward.

And, coming from someone who's only tools appear to be lame attempts at condescension (several in this thread directed at me) and straw man argumentation (along with a plethora of other logical fallacies), it's just completely hilarious.

And, of course, you're just trying to avoid owning up to the fact that you are arguing against strawmen.

In other words, you're just heaping on more dishonesty instead of manning up and engaging in honest discussion.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:33 PM   #57
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If you think that's an honest assessment of the progressive position, you're kidding yourself. Neither business nor government are inherently bad or good. It's like the preamble of the Constitution pointed out, "...promote the general welfare." What I think that means is that you do what is best for the most. Does it promote the general welfare to have a rigged system where 95% of profits go to 1% of the people?
You're reading far too much into the general welfare clause. Madison and Jefferson are both pretty clearly on record about that.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:57 PM   #58
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Yeah he was pretty clear.





I also really like the line directly after that,

"Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right" - Thomas Jefferson

**** property! Dude belongs at OWS

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Yeah he was pretty clear.





I also really like the line directly after that,

"Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right" - Thomas Jefferson

**** property! Dude belongs at OWS
That's neat and all. But none of it touched the General Welfare clause.
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That's neat and all. But none of it touched the General Welfare clause.
"General welfare" is a principle that goes back to Aristotle. It means govern in a way that is best for the most. It's really not any more complex than that.
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I love it.

Beavis: You should look at what the Founders said about it.

Blart: Okay, here.

Beavis: Well, not that.

Soon to be folowed by more quotes, then...

Beavis: Well not that, either. But here's one that I found. That applies though.

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As Lincoln and TR talked about, the Industrial Revolution created a new reality. As TR said, we unleashed corporate powers the founders could not have foreseen. If we did not put reins on them, they would do exactly what they are doing now. As he put it, "In our day it appears as the struggle of freemen to gain and hold the right of self-government as against the special interests, who twist the methods of free government into machinery for defeating the popular will."

It doesn't matter what size the government is if it's for sale to the highest bidder.
The good ol' days of laisser-faire America....



....if it wasn't for that damn socialist TR....


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