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Old 10-18-2013, 04:49 PM   #676
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Obama voters don't turn out for mid-terms. We've seen this movie before. They turn out for the president, but they don't turn out when it's about boring senators and representatives.

I wish him the best. He's got a lot of work to get himself out of his lame duck trench, and if using every inch of his huge political network will finally make a difference for the guy, he should go for it. I wonder why he hadn't bothered to do it before.
So this "victory", which at one point was very much supposed to be a literal one on policy, then a mid-term one on politics, has turned into, "they'll still won't do that good in mid-terms anyway", so "VICTORY".

It's okay to eat a little humble pie. You were wrong. Dead wrong. Like I said, Cruz is done on the national level. The numbers in '14 still look good for you, because they're based on the '08 swing. But you have done substantial harm. The House is very unlikely to be in play, cuz Dems have to win by 6% (yay cheating), but it's no longer impossible either.

Hope Calgary Cruz holds the microphone, God Bless him, and God Bless his countries.
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So this "victory", which at one point was very much supposed to be a literal one on policy, then a mid-term one on politics, has turned into, "they'll still won't do that good in mid-terms anyway", so "VICTORY".

It's okay to eat a little humble pie. You were wrong. Dead wrong. Like I said, Cruz is done on the national level. The numbers in '14 still look good for you, because they're based on the '08 swing. But you have done substantial harm. The House is very unlikely to be in play, cuz Dems have to win by 6% (yay cheating), but it's no longer impossible either.

Hope Calgary Cruz holds the microphone, God Bless him, and God Bless his countries.
Donors will never support a guy like Cruz wholesale for one reason...he's worse on their pocketbooks than democrats.

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45 states reporting an increase in premiums. Gee, who could have guessed? But I know, it really isn't happening, people are just imagining it all.
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Donors will never support a guy like Cruz wholesale for one reason...he's worse on their pocketbooks than democrats.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...ion-98513.html

Good. Let Cruz's funding come from the people and organizations who are looking for real change, not corporate favors. Everyone always complains about the money in politics, and then votes for the corporate funded megaliths. Cruz, on the other hand, will take in grass roots funding from all over the country, and still be vilified by the very people complaining about the way campaigns are funded.

Not that he needs to worry. Cruz is insanely popular back home. I'd love to see the campaign somebody would try to run against him. "Vote for me, I'm well liked by the establishment and have a lot of corporate money backing me."

Good luck to whoever is running out there with that.

Same goes for all of these primary challengers that the corporations are going to run against these guys. I welcome them to give it their best shot. They'll find that running against a tea party candidate isn't like running against a democrat. They'll bleed money by trying, and then what do they do once they lose? Fund the actual democrat?

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Because the Koch brothers aren't looking for any favors? Really? ok
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Cruz is simply demagoguing to separate himself from the conservative pack before the presidential race kicks in.

As a way to separate himself from the pack at the expense of his fellow Republicans, however, Cruz’s tactics are hardly insane. They’re irresponsible, but if Cruz doesn’t have the willingness to demagogue, then he’s just a brand new Republican Senator with nothing to show for his first six months in office, and no plans to add anything substantive to his record before his already-begun presidential run. So expect plenty more of this in the months to come. After all, it may be hurtful for the nation and destructive for his party, but it’s a lot easier than actually doing real (conservative) policy work. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...s-a-demagogue/
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Good. Let Cruz's funding come from the people and organizations who are looking for real change, not corporate favors. Everyone always complains about the money in politics, and then votes for the corporate funded megaliths. Cruz, on the other hand, will take in grass roots funding from all over the country, and still be vilified by the very people complaining about the way campaigns are funded.

Not that he needs to worry. Cruz is insanely popular back home. I'd love to see the campaign somebody would try to run against him. "Vote for me, I'm well liked by the establishment and have a lot of corporate money backing me."

Good luck to whoever is running out there with that.

Same goes for all of these primary challengers that the corporations are going to run against these guys. I welcome them to give it their best shot. They'll find that running against a tea party candidate isn't like running against a democrat. They'll bleed money by trying, and then what do they do once they lose? Fund the actual democrat?
Populist anarchists? That's the first time I've heard of that. A new political animal.
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Populist anarchists? That's the first time I've heard of that. A new political animal.
I think they live in the parallel political universe libertarians inhabit.
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Good. Let Cruz's funding come from the people and organizations who are looking for real change, not corporate favors. Everyone always complains about the money in politics, and then votes for the corporate funded megaliths. Cruz, on the other hand, will take in grass roots funding from all over the country, and still be vilified by the very people complaining about the way campaigns are funded.

Not that he needs to worry. Cruz is insanely popular back home. I'd love to see the campaign somebody would try to run against him. "Vote for me, I'm well liked by the establishment and have a lot of corporate money backing me."

Good luck to whoever is running out there with that.

Same goes for all of these primary challengers that the corporations are going to run against these guys. I welcome them to give it their best shot. They'll find that running against a tea party candidate isn't like running against a democrat. They'll bleed money by trying, and then what do they do once they lose? Fund the actual democrat?
Oh yeah, I'm sure "insanely popular" politicians have their hometown (well, other than Calgary) newspaper effectively rescind their endorsements all the time.



Meanwhile, in places not named Texas, like West Virginia, for instance, where Romney beat Obama by 26 points... Cruz leads hypothetical Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by a mere 3 point margin.

Yeah, the country is really going to rally around this guy.
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45 states reporting an increase in premiums. Gee, who could have guessed? But I know, it really isn't happening, people are just imagining it all.
Bull****.
damn you're an easy target.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...verstated.html

if that isn't enough.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/one-...bamacare-study

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A notable difference between the Dems in 2006 and today's GOP...

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“I voted against it, but once it passed I certainly determined that I would try to do everything I could to make sure that New Yorkers understood it, could access it, and make the best of it,” – then-Senator Hillary Clinton in 2006, on the Medicare D entitlement pushed by the GOP, which had some terrible start-up glitches and problems.

Why is there not a single Republican in the Congress able to be as pragmatic and patriotic as Hillary Clinton about something that is now the law of the land?
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/...r-the-day-279/

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IIRC correctly most of the Democrat 'opposition' to the Part D expansion was that it wasn't big enough. Slightly different animal.
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Oh yeah, I'm sure "insanely popular" politicians have their hometown (well, other than Calgary) newspaper effectively rescind their endorsements all the time.



Meanwhile, in places not named Texas, like West Virginia, for instance, where Romney beat Obama by 26 points... Cruz leads hypothetical Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by a mere 3 point margin.

Yeah, the country is really going to rally around this guy.
I wonder how Obama polled vs Hillary in Illinois in 2005.
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That's possible, BB. I barely remember last week let alone 2006. But, still, would be nice if some "opponents" would step forward with ideas and plans for improving ACA, or improving the healthcare situation in general.
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That's possible, BB. I barely remember last week let alone 2006. But, still, would be nice if some "opponents" would step forward with ideas and plans for improving ACA, or improving the healthcare situation in general.
Their goal is not to fix anything in this country, it's to destroy the presidency of Barack Obama. Numerous individuals in the GOP have stated this over the last six years. Nobody should be surprised by their actions. Watch a few minutes of Fox News when they're covering the ACA. They can barely suppress their glee.
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Good. Let Cruz's funding come from the people and organizations who are looking for real change, not corporate favors. Everyone always complains about the money in politics, and then votes for the corporate funded megaliths. Cruz, on the other hand, will take in grass roots funding from all over the country, and still be vilified by the very people complaining about the way campaigns are funded.

Not that he needs to worry. Cruz is insanely popular back home. I'd love to see the campaign somebody would try to run against him. "Vote for me, I'm well liked by the establishment and have a lot of corporate money backing me."

Good luck to whoever is running out there with that.

Same goes for all of these primary challengers that the corporations are going to run against these guys. I welcome them to give it their best shot. They'll find that running against a tea party candidate isn't like running against a democrat. They'll bleed money by trying, and then what do they do once they lose? Fund the actual democrat?
Cruz is getting most of funds via Heritage Action (the Heritage Foundation PAC). And who funds that PAC? I don't know maybe folks like the Koch Brothers
(http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...ion-98054.html) and other similar parties.

Cruz isn't independent, he playing the same game as the rest.
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Cruz is getting most of funds via Heritage Action (the Heritage Foundation PAC). And who funds that PAC? I don't know maybe folks like the Koch Brothers
(http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...ion-98054.html) and other similar parties.

Cruz isn't independent, he playing the same game as the rest.
Meet his father, christian Mullah and chrisitan Sharia law advocate...

WATCH: Ted Cruz's Dad Calls US a "Christian Nation," Says Obama Should Go "Back to Kenya"
Want to understand where the tea party champion's hardcore views come from? Meet his father, Rafael.

By David Corn | Thu Oct. 31, 2013 3:00 AM PDT

In April, Rafael Cruz, the father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), spoke to the tea party of Hood County, which is southwest of Fort Worth, and made a bold declaration: The United States is a "Christian nation." The septuagenarian businessman turned evangelical pastor did not choose to use the more inclusive formulation "Judeo-Christian nation." Insisting that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution "were signed on the knees of the framers" and were a "divine revelation from God," he went on to say, "yet our president has the gall to tell us that this is not a Christian nation…The United States of America was formed to honor the word of God." Seven months earlier, Rafael Cruz, speaking to the North Texas Tea Party on behalf of his son, who was then running for Senate, called President Barack Obama an "outright Marxist" who "seeks to destroy all concept of God," and he urged the crowd to send Obama "back to Kenya."

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Comments uttered by a politician's parent may have little relevance in assessing an elected official. But it's appropriate to take Rafael Cruz into account when evaluating his son the senator. Ted Cruz, the tea party champion who almost single-handedly spurred the recent government shutdown, has often deployed his father as a political asset. He routinely cites his Cuban-born father, who emigrated from the island nation in 1957, when he discusses immigration and justifies his opposition to the bipartisan reform bill that passed in the Senate. (Ted Cruz hails his father as a symbol of the "American dream" who came to the United States legally—though Rafael Cruz began his career in the oil industry in Canada, where Ted was born.) Moreover, Ted Cruz campaigns with his father; he had him in tow on a recent trip to Iowa (where the evangelical vote is crucial in GOP presidential primaries). Rafael Cruz regularly speaks to tea party and Republican groups in Texas as a surrogate for his son; during Ted Cruz's 2012 Senate campaign, his father was dispatched to events and rallies across the state to whip up support. And thanks to Ted Cruz's political rise, Rafael has become a conservative star in his own right. He has been prominently featured—and praised—at events held by prominent right-wing outfits, such as FreedomWorks and Heritage Action. What Rafael Cruz says—especially when he is speaking for his son—matters.

The elder Cruz is a North Texas-based pastor who directs a small outfit called Purifying Fire Ministries.* Rafael Cruz's inflammatory remarks and fundamentalist views have recently started to attract increased media attention. A few weeks ago, he sparked headlines when he told a gathering of Republicans in Colorado that Obama has vowed to "side with the Muslims," that Obamacare mandates "suicide counseling" for the elderly, and that gay marriage is a plot to make "government your god."

A sermon Rafael Cruz delivered in August 2012 at an Irving, Texas, mega-church has also come under scrutiny. At that event, he asserted that Christian true believers are "anointed" by God to "take dominion" of the world in "every area: society, education, government, and economics." He was preaching a particular form of evangelical Christianity known as Dominionism (a.k.a. Christian Reconstructionism) that holds that these "anointed" Christians are destined to take over the government and create in practice, if not in official terms, a theocracy. Rafael Cruz also endorsed the evangelical belief known as the "end-time transfer of wealth"—that is, as a prelude to the second coming of Christ, God will seize the wealth of the wicked and redistribute it to believers.[EDIT: I guess it takes one socialist to know one ] But, Cruz told the flock, don't expect to benefit from this unless you tithe mightily. Introducing Cruz at this service, Christian Zionist pastor Larry Huch offered this bottom line: In the coming year, he predicted, "God will begin to rule and reign. Not Wall Street, not Washington, God's people and his kingdom will begin to rule and reign. I know that's why God got Rafael's son elected, Ted Cruz, the next senator." (In July, several prominent Dominionist pastors at a ceremony in Iowa blessed and anointed Ted Cruz, rendering him, in their view, a "king" who would help usher in the kingdom of Christ.)

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During his sermon at this church, Rafael Cruz preached that men, not women, are the spiritual leaders of their families: "As God commands us men to teach your wife, to teach your children—to be the spiritual leader of your family—you're acting as a priest. Now, unfortunately, unfortunately, in too many Christian homes, the role of the priest is assumed by the wife. Why? Because the man had abdicated his responsibility as priest to his family…So the wife has taken up that banner, but that's not her responsibility. And if I'm stepping on toes, just say, 'Ouch.'"

As Rafael Cruz recounted at the Hood County tea party event, he had a powerful role in shaping his son, introducing Ted, when he was in middle school, to the Free Enterprise Education Center, where the young Cruz was flooded with Austrian School libertarian economics and archly conservative interpretations of US history. Cruz excelled in this setting and went on to become part of a traveling road show of teens called the Constitutional Corroborators. They appeared at Rotary Club luncheons across the state to extol the wonders of the free market and the US Constitution. While the Rotarians ate lunch, the whiz kids transcribed from memory the articles of the Constitution on easels placed at the front of the room.

At the Hood County gathering, Rafael Cruz, in full sync with his son's political stance, attacked RINOs—Republicans In Name Only. He noted that the "wicked" were now ruling the United States. He insisted that "those death panels are in Obamacare," and that the US government wants "to take all of your money" and confiscate "our fortunes." He asserted that the Democratic Party promotes "everything that is contrary to the word of God." He also exclaimed, "Social justice is a cancer. Social justice means you are ruled by whatever the mob does. What social justice does is destroy individual responsibility."

http://youtu.be/l4eXsn5ItIY

Pastor Cruz is a fiery speaker whose rhetorical red meat is well-received by hardcore Republican and tea party audiences. He regularly has compared Obama to Fidel Castro and routinely echoes the no-surrender calls of his son. At a "freedom rally" at the Alamo in 2012, he vowed, "We've had enough compromise…enough of Establishment Republicans that don't stand for anything." Speaking to Houston Republicans in September, he decried John McCain and Mitt Romney, blasting both of the former presidential candidates for having "played dead" when challenging Obama. He blasted McCain for refusing to slam Obama regarding the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He asserted that the elderly would be harmed by Obamacare, claiming that "everywhere in the world when socialized medicine has been instituted it takes 12 to 18 months to get any kind of medical proceeding." (That is not the case with Medicare, a form of socialized health care.) He also declared, "I haven't heard Obama ask us for our consent when he's trying to ram Obamacare down our throats"—without noting that Congress voted for the Affordable Care Act. At the Hood County event, Rafael Cruz, a fervent foe of gay rights, vowed that he would be speaking "across this country to support constitutional conservatives to retake the Senate."

http://youtu.be/ha23G9m0pls

Whether he's at a prayer breakfast or a tea party rally, Rafael Cruz easily and enthusiastically mixes religion and politics. At an event hosted by the National Federation of Republican Assemblies in September, he contended that after the 2012 election, God told him, "If we could blame one group of people for what happened in the last election, it is the pastors." By that he meant that, for decades, too many Christian leaders have remained on the political sidelines, declining to do combat with liberals and Democrats. Consequently, he explained, prayer has been removed from schools, legalized abortion has continued, and gay marriage has come to pass in several states. He insisted that the advancement of Christianity (his fundamentalist version of it) depends on political battle, noting the need not just for a "spiritual savior" but a "political savior." (The idea of states' rights, he said, was based in the bible.) Obama, Cruz proclaimed, believes "government is your god." When Cruz was a keynote speaker at a tax day rally hosted by Texas tea partiers in April, he told the crowd that conservative Christians need to take over "every school board in this nation." At a Texas tea party rally in September 2012, he claimed that Obama has "a clear agenda…to destroy American exceptionalism"—and "to achieve a "worldwide redistribution of wealth" and "make us subject to the United Nations."

The United States as a "Christian nation"; death panels; social justice a cancer; gay rights a conspiracy; the "wicked" in charge in Washington; women inferior to men as spiritual leaders; Obama a Muslim-favoring, God-hating, Marxist Kenyan; End Times; a UN worldwide dictatorship; states' rights; free markets over all—Rafael Cruz blends the far reaches of extreme conservatism and Christian fundamentalism. He embodies the full synthesis of the tea party and the religious right. In fact, he has noted that the rise of the religious right in Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign "was the precursor of the tea party." Rafael Cruz may well be key to understanding the ideas, desires, and long-term aims that drive Ted Cruz—a politician who is exerting an outsized influence on the GOP.

At the least, Cruz ought to have to explain whether he shares the more extreme views of his No. 1 surrogate. Asked to comment on Rafael Cruz's remarks—particularly his statement that the United States is a "Christian nation" and his call for Obama to be shipped back to Kenya—Sen. Cruz's office requested citations for these quotes. After receiving the citations, Sean Rushton, a spokesperson for Cruz, replied, "These selective quotes, taken out of context, mischaracterize the substance of Pastor Cruz's message. Like many Americans, he feels America is on the wrong track." Rushton added, "Pastor Cruz does not speak for the senator."

"People here are trying to figure out Ted Cruz," a Democratic senator recently told me. "And a lot of them are saying, 'He went to Princeton, Harvard Law—he doesn't really believe what he says.' But I think he does. All you have to do is look at his father. So much of our life is mirroring. And Ted Cruz is mirroring his father."
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Cruz is getting most of funds via Heritage Action (the Heritage Foundation PAC). And who funds that PAC? I don't know maybe folks like the Koch Brothers
(http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...ion-98054.html) and other similar parties.

Cruz isn't independent, he playing the same game as the rest.
TJ says "Cruz is insanely popular back home." Yeah. In Houston. "Insane" being the operative word here.
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Senor Cruz sounds like a loony tune.
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TJ says "Cruz is insanely popular back home." Yeah. In Houston. "Insane" being the operative word here.
I wouldn't call him insane. He is very scary because he smart and understands how to whip a crowd into frenzy for his own gain.
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I wouldn't call him insane. He is very scary because he smart and understands how to whip a crowd into frenzy for his own gain.
Yeah. There's something about Cruz that really gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Yeah. There's something about Cruz that really gives me the heebie jeebies.
Ditto. He's creepy.
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He's a psychopath. Been saying this for months and I'm not being glib or exaggerating.
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Hare Psychopathy Checklist

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_...athy_Checklist

Factor 1: Interpersonal/Affective

Glibness/superficial charm
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Factor 2: Lifestyle/Antisocial

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Thought this was a (semirelated) good read.

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