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Old 09-17-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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And exactly why he's the best returner in the game.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:24 PM   #2
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definitely best return skills, i just wish we didnt have to hold our breath to see if he drops it. absolutely incredible we got this guy on waivers mid season.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:31 PM   #3
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one of the few players that contributed in playoffs..Let's hope he does the same this year and win us a Super bowl.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:32 PM   #4
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that low center of gravity combined with world class speed
he made the Giants look silly with that cut. I'm kind of surprised teams are still kicking to him after last year.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:11 PM   #5
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that low center of gravity combined with world class speed
he made the Giants look silly with that cut. I'm kind of surprised teams are still kicking to him after last year.
from there point of view, they have an ok chance of getting the ball back deep in our territory by kicking to him. i imagine over the next few weeks, without fumbles, we will see them stop kicking to him ala early career hester.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:26 PM   #6
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That punter was lucky he didn't have two TDs the way he was line driving it to him. Seriously. If you're going to do that just kick it out of bounds. Not complaining though, that TD changed the whole course of the game. Coughlin looked stunned. The Giants basically wet themselves. They knew it was going to be a tough game, once we got up a couple scores and forced them to punt, you could tell they still weren't counting themselves out, that they were prepared to diligently climb their way back into it.. but then he does that and their attitude is palpable..

"wait a second, you mean they have that offense, that defense, AND we gotta deal with this ****? i'm outta here."

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Old 09-17-2013, 08:30 PM   #7
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definitely best return skills, i just wish we didnt have to hold our breath to see if he drops it. absolutely incredible we got this guy on waivers mid season.
If you think about it Hester has the same type of history especially early in his career. He is good for a couple fumbles a year.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:46 PM   #8
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i still wonder why they never try to get him involved in the offense. couldn't he take some screens and pitches or something?
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:47 PM   #9
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What's amazing is his burst during and right after his cuts. That's what really separates the elite runners.

He's the most amazing return man we've ever had. Please forgive me Upchurch.
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The most amazing cut was the Houston cut that allowed Denver to land him.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:32 PM   #11
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Holliday has already moved into 2nd place in franchise history with Sunday's punt return for a TD. It was his 5th special teams return TD

His 81 yard return was the 8th longest in franchise history.
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I was completely shocked when he emerged from that pocket.
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He's definitely exciting to watch! I wish we could incorporate him on offense.

bubble screens and reverses could work well.
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i still wonder why they never try to get him involved in the offense. couldn't he take some screens and pitches or something?
This would be awesome.
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The amazing thing was, he set that up, defenders collapsing, then boom, gone! Accellerates so quick through the hole, just fun to watch.

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He's definitely exciting to watch! I wish we could incorporate him on offense.

bubble screens and reverses could work well.
1) he has **** hands

2) anytime he stepped onto the field the defense would know exactly what was happening

3) we have peyton ****ing manning, we don't need gimmicks on offense
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he may be our most dynamic player with the ball in his hands in open space.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:57 AM   #18
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He can catch a 60 yard punt, but not a pitch pass. It's tough to describe but has to do with the fact that he has 10 inch fingers with only 2 inch palms.

Peyton OCD needed this.

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Old 09-18-2013, 06:05 AM   #19
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i still wonder why they never try to get him involved in the offense. couldn't he take some screens and pitches or something?
Chicago wondered the same thing about Hester.
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1) he has **** hands

2) anytime he stepped onto the field the defense would know exactly what was happening

3) we have peyton ****ing manning, we don't need gimmicks on offense
You would have seen Holiday this year on offense. When you have all the weapons we have it's a logistics issue when you bring in Holliday. Even if you lined up and told the D you were about to throw a flare to Holliday most D's still don't have the athletes to match up

One miss tackle and he could be gone.

Plus it they have success with any type of plays it forces the up coming teams to spend time during the week on defending the play package even if they have no plays for Holliday that week

However with Clady out they can't afford to have backs that can't block

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He's definitely exciting to watch! I wish we could incorporate him on offense.

bubble screens and reverses could work well.
The deep through to him works in Madden, it must work in real life.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:27 AM   #22
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Most returners suffer in their main return duties when they are tried at other positions (although when the Bears had no QB, I kept telling a Bear fan buddy of mine that they should line up in punt formation with Hester deep and just let him "QB" run from there every play with blocking and creating space...). Anyways, we have enough weapons on offense that we don't need Holliday there.

That said, Holliday is electric. His acceleration is out of this world. I thought he was certainly going to be sandwiched by 5 Giants on that play and all they got a hold of was his smoke trail after he pulled another gear.
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He's 18-1 in the NFL since the start of last season.
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I have mixed feelings about Holliday on offense. True, there is that part of it that if you screen it to him and the blocking works out he could be gone for 80. But first string defenders, not special teams players, would then be going after him. For many reasons already mentioned, i think it's probably best that he stay where he is currently excelling. Mainly, i say this because we have four legitimate weapons in Decker, Thomas, Thomas, and Welker. If we only had one of those guys, i think that becomes more appetizing. But we are loaded. It's actually pretty silly.

Leave him where he is, let him be fresh and healthy for those returns because you never know when we might actually need a really good one as opposed to one being icing on the cake.
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Hester was so average on offense and I think Holiday would be very similar.
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