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Old 09-11-2013, 02:42 PM   #226
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He hasn't shown anything to convince me otherwise
And that's where your failure of perspective comes into play.

How many people do you know, celebrities, athletes, whatever, repeat purely traffic violations over and over throughout their career?

Please give me ONE example of someone doing so. (not involving drugs or alcohol)

I mean seriously? You think he'll miss court again and again? You think his license will be suspended forever?
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:43 PM   #227
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Do you mean because of the wear and tear or because of the lack of maturity some of them have?

lack of maturity.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:43 PM   #228
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When you're an athlete all your life...yeah, it's not uncommon...these people age differently than the normal person going out and getting a normal job.


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Old 09-11-2013, 02:44 PM   #229
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people who are calling this a traffic violation are wrong, for starters. it was a traffic violation that uncovered that he was driving with a suspended license, which is much more severe and much more idiotic.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:45 PM   #230
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lack of maturity.

Most men are not fully physically or mentally mature until around 25. Also, young men tend to be dumb. Its part of their charm. The job they have or may not have has nothing to do with it.


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Old 09-11-2013, 02:47 PM   #231
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You're wrong. The only reason this little ticky tacky **** even matters is because of his past. EVEYTHING will be in play re: contract extensions
Do you realize how stupid you'd sound in a room attempting to use traffic violations as a reason to not sign someone?

Do you understand how contract proposals work and how it is like in meeting rooms?

I highly doubt it.

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I think the point you're trying to make is oh boo hoo Von was in a minor incident that the media is just running away with

My point is he never would have been in that circumstance had he used his ****ing brain for more than a Molly playhouse and weed emporium
No, my point is that this **** happens across the league and most of you think the Broncos are the only team that has these type of issues.

Von Miller's traffic violations are at the BOTTOM of the pile of things that players, citizens, Americans, etc... **** up on.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:47 PM   #232
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And that's where your failure of perspective comes into play.

How many people do you know, celebrities, athletes, whatever, repeat purely traffic violations over and over throughout their career?

Please give me ONE example of someone doing so. (not involving drugs or alcohol)

I mean seriously? You think he'll miss court again and again? You think his license will be suspended forever?
The impression he's giving off right now is that he could wind up in court for a myriad of reasons, probably due to his extremely poor decision making.

You don't think he'll get another traffic violation? Cool story bro. That doesn't put anyone's mind at ease regarding him making stupid mistakes otherwise.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:48 PM   #233
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It's irrelevant to fans. Like I said, do you honestly believe he will be committing these same crimes down the line? .

As it looks now? Well all signs point to yes based on 2 incidents now(not including the offense that even caused the suspension, i don't even know what that is). Sooner or later the 3rd or 4th offense is mandatory jail time and eventual revoking of a license. Certainly that is punishable by Goodell based on his "conduct" clause he's always hyping about.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:50 PM   #234
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Do you realize how stupid you'd sound in a room attempting to use traffic violations as a reason to not sign someone?

Do you understand how contract proposals work and how it is like in meeting rooms?

I highly doubt it.



No, my point is that this **** happens across the league and most of you think the Broncos are the only team that has these type of issues.

Von Miller's traffic violations are at the BOTTOM of the pile of things that players, citizens, Americans, etc... **** up on.
PERSPECTIVE you ****ing moron

Do you think the broncos FO sees this as purely a traffic violation?

I'll give you three guesses, the first two don't count
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Most men are not fully physically or mentally mature until around 25. Also, young men tend to be dumb. Its part of their charm. The job they have or may not have has nothing to do with it.


He's 24... but an athletes life is completely different than the normal persons. You're talking about the scientific development of the brain, while I'm talking about life styles.

Partying and all that **** is very easily accessible to athletes throughout their whole career...most of you people probably stopped that **** by the time of graduated or well before 25. If not, then you shouldn't be shocked I called von miller a "kid"
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Easy with the personal insults. Argue the issue, not the person.


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PERSPECTIVE you ****ing moron

Do you think the broncos FO sees this as purely a traffic violation?

I'll give you three guesses, the first two don't count
How else would they view it? As a federal crime?

But once it comes time to talk about a contract, it won't be relevant.

If they were talking about a contract TODAY or within the next few weeks? Possibly it would be more serious.

Hence why I said, he'll probably have to prove good behavior and play out this season and playoffs...then talk about his contract in the off season.

By that time, all these traffic violations will be irrelevant...if he doesn't commit anything else.
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He's 24... but an athletes life is completely different than the normal persons. You're talking about the scientific development of the brain, while I'm talking about life styles.

Partying and all that **** is very easily accessible to athletes throughout their whole career...most of you people probably stopped that **** by the time of graduated or well before 25. If not, then you shouldn't be shocked I called von miller a "kid"

Talking about the development of the human male. The job they do is irrelevant to it. And most young men party and do dumb ****. The difference being the level of access most of them have, or resources they can utilize. In that sense, you are right.

Otherwise its Von being typical of his age group. He's doing dumb ****. But by 24 calling him a kid is a stretch. He's a man.

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Old 09-11-2013, 02:55 PM   #239
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How else would they view it? As a federal crime?

But once it comes time to talk about a contract, it won't be relevant.

If they were talking about a contract TODAY or within the next few weeks? Possibly it would be more serious.

Hence why I said, he'll probably have to prove good behavior and play out this season and playoffs...then talk about his contract in the off season.

By that time, all these traffic violations will be irrelevant...if he doesn't commit anything else.
As being indicative of potential future violations (big risk)
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By that time, all these traffic violations will be irrelevant...if he doesn't commit anything else.
What makes you think he would commit something else?
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:55 PM   #241
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I don't expect Miller to be in the league much longer. Hall of fame skills attached to an idiot decision making apparatus.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #242
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The impression he's giving off right now is that he could wind up in court for a myriad of reasons, probably due to his extremely poor decision making.

You don't think he'll get another traffic violation? Cool story bro. That doesn't put anyone's mind at ease regarding him making stupid mistakes otherwise.
No,I think he can get another traffic violation. But it simply depends on the violation.

Now, if he's caught driving without a license again? That's a different story. People generally don't commit that crime twice.

I've already asked to give me examples of ANYONE...athletes/celebrities...whomever... who commit these type of traffic violations consistently throughout their career.

But obviously, you can't.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #243
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Takakjian & Sitkoff have made a good chunk of change representing habitual traffic offenders who are celebrities.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #244
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What makes you think he would commit something else?
He has yet to show otherwise
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:58 PM   #245
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No,I think he can get another traffic violation. But it simply depends on the violation.

Now, if he's caught driving without a license again? That's a different story. People generally don't commit that crime twice.

I've already asked to give me examples of ANYONE...athletes/celebrities...whomever... who commit these type of traffic violations consistently throughout their career.

But obviously, you can't.

Oh so you think he's learned his lesson then? Alrighty sleep well
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:58 PM   #246
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PERSPECTIVE you ****ing moron

Do you think the broncos FO sees this as purely a traffic violation?

I'll give you three guesses, the first two don't count
He mad
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #247
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What makes you think he would commit something else?
Well first off, I look to see if the cause is that he's surrounded by bad people and friends... that's usually the hardest pattern to break. He's not. These are just traffic violations for being irresponsible which will most likely be fixed because there will be a point in time, it will be to his greatest interest to not commit this **** again.

Look at Dez Bryants situation in Dallas. If you followed that, you'd realize how small this Von situation is.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #248
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I am mad. Mad our best defensive player has **** for brains
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:01 PM   #249
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I don't expect Miller to be in the league much longer. Hall of fame skills attached to an idiot decision making apparatus.
This is the type of overreaction that just baffles me.

Brandon Marshall is still in the league. Michael Vick is still in the league...both being paid TOP dollar (one with 100 million dollar contract)...

And you sitting here talking about Von not being in the league because of traffic violations

Perspective. Get some.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:02 PM   #250
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He got arrested during a background check BUYING A GUN.

If he can't get his stuff straight before going to buy a gun, on top of everything else, well, I don't know why anyone would expect this pattern to change.
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