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Old 09-12-2013, 09:21 AM   #1
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:09 AM   #2
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Dumb as a box of rocks. You want death panels?? Try the insurance industry.

Sarah Palin Won’t Let ‘Death Panels’ Die


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Sarah Palin clearly feels vindicated. In a video posted online Tuesday, the former vice presidential candidate suggests she was right when she predicted that the Affordable Care Act would lead to “death panels” of bureaucrats deciding who’s worthy of health care and who’s not.

Set to electric guitar riffs and featuring granny being pushed off a clip and a roaring grizzly bear apparently just as outraged as the former Alaska governor, the video includes short news clips sewn together to prove that the “death panels” lie has turned out to be true.

The problem, of course, is that it’s not. As has been explained here, here, here, here, here and here, the new health care law contains no death panels. The Independent Payment Advisory Board, a government panel that may determine some Medicare payments rates, is expressly banned from rationing care. End-of-life counseling, a provision in an early version of a health reform bill that would pay doctors to talk to Medicare patients about living wills, was stripped from the final version.
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At the time of Palin’s original death panel claim, the IPAB hadn’t been written into legislation. Her claim instead was focused on language being proposed in the bill that would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling. The death panel myth grabbed hold even though the vast majority of Americans are in favor of payment for end-of-life counseling.
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:18 AM   #3
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Because Obama signed it = Death Panels


Nothing is going to change it. However for the rest of us, who can now buy insurance and not be tied to some crap job, we will just laugh under our breathe..


What the Obama Adminstration should have done is required Health Insurers to pay for one AR-15 for each plan member annually, no charge. Conservative heads would implode... lol....

Must hate law.... love AR-15.... must hate Law.... love gun.... bleep, bleep, bleep (picture the cliched smoke coming out of ears)...

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someone should get bobo a copy of Game Changer for christmas.
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:19 AM   #5
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Because Obama signed it = Death Panels


Nothing is going to change it. However for the rest of us, who can now buy insurance and not be tied to some crap job, we will just laugh under our breathe..


What the Obama Adminstration should have done is required Health Insurers to pay for one AR-15 for each plan member annually, no charge. Conservative heads would implode... lol....

Must hate law.... love AR-15.... must hate Law.... love gun.... bleep, bleep, bleep (picture the cliched smoke coming out of ears)...

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Or some tea party hats.
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Or some tea party hats.
The willingful ignorance of basic healthcare concepts in conservative American is shocking...
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The liberals defense of the death panels is they don't exist because that is not what they are really called. There is a panel that will decide such things, but it's ok as long as they aren't called a death panel. But what do you expect from such "healthcare experts" who don't think it is important that with more people added to insurance, there isn't enough doctors to care for them, much less the rest. But good thing their messiah is doing such a great job in other areas
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The liberals defense of the death panels is they don't exist because that is not what they are really called. There is a panel that will decide such things, but it's ok as long as they aren't called a death panel. But what do you expect from such "healthcare experts" who don't think it is important that with more people added to insurance, there isn't enough doctors to care for them, much less the rest. But good thing their messiah is doing such a great job in other areas
Got a link to the death panel? What's it called??
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Got a link to the death panel? What's it called??
I'll save you the suspence, he has no link...

End of life decisions are made daily, mostly made by doctors and family... Even if Medicare of insurance will not cover a service because it is not proven to be worth it, providers will likely be glad to do more for cash...
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I'll save you the suspence, he has no link...

End of life decisions are made daily, mostly made by doctors and family... Even if Medicare of insurance will not cover a service because it is not proven to be worth it, providers will likely be glad to do more for cash...
We know there's no such thing as death panels and that it's a Palin creation, but sometimes it's fun to ask the 'Barrys' and 'Hobos' to substantiate their bull**** with facts.
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Claim denial, the REAL death panels.






...and the idiots who support them.

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We know there's no such thing as death panels and that it's a Palin creation, but sometimes it's fun to ask the 'Barrys' and 'Hobos' to substantiate their bull**** with facts.
Facts are like Climate Change.. Non existent
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Claim denial, the REAL death panels.






...and the idiots who support them.

Pacificare is horrendous... The were the TPA for our group plan one year, it was horrible how much stuff they denied...
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UltimateMonkeyW/Keyboard = LABF...but dumb, conservative, and with VIDEOS (also known as "movin' pictures").

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Libs are falling!
You're bankrupt of ideas and have nothing of substance to offer.

All you have is the usual lefty/righty, sophomoric responses that mark you as just another partisan monkey.

Back to China with you.
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You're bankrupt of ideas and have nothing of substance to offer.

All you have is the usual lefty/righty, sophomoric responses that mark you as just another partisan monkey.

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The banner ad at the top of this page says I get these babes from the Ukraine if I just sign up. What do ya think? I really like Yaroslava.
44kg SOUNDS hot...but what I really want to know is if her calves are the size of watermelons.
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There have been and will continue to be "death panels". Anyone arguing otherwise is fooling themselves.
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There have been and will continue to be "death panels". Anyone arguing otherwise is fooling themselves.
One can certainly make that argument, to a degree, when looking at claims denials.....Medicare included.

Obamacare didn't add a 'death panel,' in fact, by taking away 'denied coverage' for 'pre-existing' conditions, he actually removed one of the worst examples.
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There have been and will continue to be "death panels". Anyone arguing otherwise is fooling themselves.
Look at the Secretary of Human services who wouldn't sign off on letting a little girl get an adult lung transplant.

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The banner ad at the top of this page says I get these babes from the Ukraine if I just sign up. What do ya think? I really like Yaroslava.
You know those ads are programmed by your key strokes. You lonely?
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