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Old 08-28-2013, 01:56 PM   #26
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No sir, you are clearly the one who is off his rocker and most likely a sociopath.
Why? Because I consistently call for peace -- not war?

You are just another Amerikkkan on steroids.

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Old 08-28-2013, 01:58 PM   #27
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Apparently Russia presented satellite photos to the UN Security Council proving that the missiles came from a rebel stronghold.

Why is the US media not covering this? Three guesses. MHG

Is the Drive for War on Syria to Cover Up a War Crime?

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle36000.htm

By William Bowles

According to the source, Russia’s ambassador in the UN Security Council, Vitaly Churkin, presented conclusive evidence – based on documents and Russian satellite images – of two rockets carrying toxic chemicals, fired from Douma, controlled by the Syrian “rebels”, and landing on East Ghouta. Hundreds of “rebels”, as well as civilians – including those children on the cover of Western corporate media papers – were killed. The evidence, says the Russian source, is conclusive. – Pepe Escobar

August 27, 2013 "Information Clearing House - "williambowles " - Shattering news if indeed it’s true, that it was two missiles fired by rebels from a place called Douma in the suburbs of Damascus, which is indeed under rebel control, that did the damage. No wonder the Empire is in a panic to go to war if it gets out that it was actually the side its arming and supporting that caused such horrendous loss of life!

The mad, panic-driven desire to destroy being exhibited by the USUK maybe the reason for the drive toward war as it will (hopefully) obscure and relegate to history what actually took place. The threat of war on Syria is some terrible psychopathic sideshow and well within the remit of the barbarians, who it is clear will stop at nothing to achieve their objectives. Unless stopped.

If what Escobar reports (and another source, see below) is really true, then it means that the rebels actually did kill hundreds of people, including its own soldiers! Maybe even a thousand or more. No wonder the West doesn’t want it to be investigated! The UN inspection team has no remit to try and find out who is actually responsible, just whether some kind gas attack took place.

All that guff about, ‘it’s too late, Assad has gotten rid of the evidence’ or, ‘you should have let us in earlier’, is just a smokescreen. What the West HAS to do, is try and cover it up, like they did to the thousands of Iraqi troops who were bulldozed in their trenches, alive, buried in sand.

More Confirmation

Below is a short promo of an interview with an Syrian activist confirming the report made by Pepe Escobar above. It’s on the Boiling Frogs website but you need a paid subscription to view the entire video, which is a bit of a drag. And I’d like to see the satellite images and any accompanying information. Why aren’t the Russians making a bigger play of the information they allegedly have? IT could stop this war thing in its tracks!
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**** the Russians. A bunch of thugs and liars. Who would be dumb enough to believe anything the Russians have to say?

I looked up Pepe Escobar. He works for Russian and Iranian TV. Could you be more ****ing gullible?

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Old 08-28-2013, 02:10 PM   #29
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CBS NEWS/ August 27, 2013, 7:31 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...emical-attack/

Syria challenges U.S. to "produce the evidence" that Assad regime launched chemical attack

Syria's foreign minister challenged the Obama administration and its allies on Tuesday to "produce the evidence" showing Bashar Assad's government was behind a chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus last week, saying the information available on which side was behind the deadly attack provided a "weak and inaccurate" case for military intervention from the West.

Walid Muallem said he was holding the televised news conference in Damascus to inform the American public that the Obama administration's assertion that there could be "little doubt" the Assad regime was behind the apparent chemical attack in the eastern Ghouta suburbs of Damascus "is completely wrong."
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Events are rapidly spinning out of control. Prince Bandar has reportedly threatened Russia with terrorism if Russia does not accept the destruction of Syria. Incredible.

Let us remember, this is the same Prince Bandar whose wife supplied cash to two of the 9/11 terrorists.
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Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria
Posted by EU Times on Aug 27th, 2013 //

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin...attacks-syria/

A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.

According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”

Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”
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Gaffney, you're such a dupe.
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:29 PM   #32
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Given that 90% of the US media is controlled by 6 corporations -- I'd say the real dupes are those Americans foolish enough to believe what they hear and see on US TV.
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Given that 90% of the US media is controlled by 6 corporations -- I'd say the real dupes are those Americans foolish enough to believe what they hear and see on US TV.
Try reading outside the country instead of spamming the board with nonsense being peddled by the conspiracy wacko sites.
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Evidently Prince Bandar went to Moscow last month -- and presented Putin with inducements to allow the West to destroy Syria. Bandar also delivered a veiled threat.

Has this meeting been reported in the western media?

The meeting adds to the evidence that the recent chemical weapons attack was staged - a false flag operation.

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Evidently Prince Bandar went to Moscow last month -- and presented Putin with inducements to allow the West to destroy Syria. Bandar also delivered a veiled threat.

Has this meeting been reported in the western media?

The meeting adds to the evidence that the recent chemical weapons attack was staged - a false flag operation.

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http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/poli...#ixzz2d5UVLSNv
Endlessly. As usual, you're too ****ing lazy to even Google the stories you claim no one is reporting.

Reuters reported this story weeks ago, and I'm sure the BBC also reported it...as did the Telegraph. And those are just the sources I remember.
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:58 PM   #36
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Why? Because I consistently call for peace -- not war?
You call for the destruction of America (and Israel too).

You think that means peace.

You're a sociopath.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:33 PM   #37
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So, calling for an end to the wars is tantamount to calling for the destruction of Israel and the US.

Welcome to knee jerk America.
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Why? Because I consistently call for peace -- not war?

You are just another Amerikkkan on steroids.

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Old 08-28-2013, 10:20 PM   #39
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Obama will launch another war with only 9% support. Incredible. MHG

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You know you can catch something from sucking throat yogurt from Paul right?
Throgurt.

It's cursed, but it comes with your choice of toppings...also cursed.

That's bad.
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So, calling for an end to the wars is tantamount to calling for the destruction of Israel and the US.

Welcome to knee jerk America.
Coy isn't your best tactic.

You go far beyond "calling for an end to the wars".

You're as much of a "peace activist" as Rummy.
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Rumsfeld says that Obama hasn't made the case for Syrian intervention:
"One thing that's very interesting, it seems to me, is that there really hasn't been any indication from the administration as to what our national interest is with respect to this particular situation," Rumsfeld said in an interview with Fox Business Network.

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Rumsfeld says that Obama hasn't made the case for Syrian intervention:
"One thing that's very interesting, it seems to me, is that there really hasn't been any indication from the administration as to what our national interest is with respect to this particular situation," Rumsfeld said in an interview with Fox Business Network.

'Scuse me while I

While I agree we should stay out of Syria how do people like Rumsfeld with his part in the Iraq fiasco make a statement like this. How do they live with themselves
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Let us pray that saner heads prevail. MHG

Russia warns West over 'illegal' Syria intervention


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ervention.html
Russian foreign minister warns West that military intervention in Syrian conflict without UN Security Council approval would violate international law, as UN inspectors finally arrive at site of last week's suspected chemical weapons attack.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters that the use of military force by the West against Assad's regime without the approval of the UN Security Council "is a very grave violation of international law".

Speaking at a hastily convened news conference, he added that the West was currently moving towards "a very dangerous path, a very slippery path".
His comments came after William Hague today refused to rule out bombing Assad regime targets within days, warning that the Syrian regime could not be allowed to use chemical weapons against its own people “with impunity”, following an alleged attack last week in which at least 355 people were killed and 3,600 injured.

Royal Navy vessels are being readied to take part in a possible series of cruise missile strikes, alongside the United States, as military commanders finalise a list of potential targets.

The British Foreign Secretary said "there is no possible explanation other than that [the alleged chemical attack] has been carried out by the Assad regime".

But Lavrov told reporters that the West has been unable to produce any evidence to back claims that the Syrian government used chemical weapons.
"They (the West) have not been able to come up with any proof but are saying at the same time that the red line has been crossed and there can be no delay," Lavrov said.


Syrian activists with the bodies of some of the victims in Damascus (Reuters)
Earlier today, UN inspectors finally reached the site of the alleged atrocities in Syria's capital to launch an investigation into last week's suspected chemical weapons attack, meeting doctors and casualties.

Inspectors had been given the green light to visit the site on Sunday, four days after the alleged attacks, following mounting pressure and accusations of responsibility against President Bashar al-Assad for the strikes from Western countries.

But the UN experts had been initially forced to abandon their investigation after they were 'deliberately' targeted while travelling in convoy to the site of the alleged atrocities by snipers.

"The inspectors managed to enter the town of Moadamiyet al-Sham with civilians, and visited the Red Crescent centre where they met doctors," Abu Nadim, an activist in Damascus province, told AFP via Skype earlier today.

Lavrov warned that in any case Western intervention on the side of the opposition forces would be a "grave mistake" and scupper any hopes of convening a peace conference to resolve the conflict.

"If anyone thinks that destroying Syria's military infrastructure and leaving the battleground open for the opposition to take victory would be the end of it, that is an illusion," said Lavrov.

"Even in case of such a victory, civil war will continue, only the side of the government will be the opposition side."

After journalists repeatedly asked Lavrov how Russia would react to the possible Western intervention he also said: "We (Russia) do not intend to fight with anyone."

Lavrov also accused the West of double standards in foreign policy.
He said: "You cannot fight with a regime only because you don't like the dictator that heads it and then not fight another regime where you like the authoritarian ruler."

Russia, one of the few remaining allies of Assad, told Syria to cooperate with UN experts investigating reports of a deadly chemical weapons attack on Friday.
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Syria reportedly has the world's most advanced anti ship missile -- known the Yakhonts. These are ship killers. They have never been used in combat.

If the US destroyers attack, Syria will be within its rights to counter -- and sink the US warships.

Syria appears to have the capability. The Yakhonts has a range of 180 miles and is extremely accurate.
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Russia Sends More Advanced Missiles to Aid Assad in Syria

By MICHAEL R. GORDON and ERIC SCHMITT
Published: May 16, 2013


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/wo...anted=all&_r=0
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Yeah. If the West were to intervene in Syria, it would mess up Russia's intervention in Syria.
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Syria reportedly has the world's most advanced anti ship missile -- known the Yakhonts. These are ship killers. They have never been used in combat.

If the US destroyers attack, Syria will be within its rights to counter -- and sink the US warships.

Syria appears to have the capability. The Yakhonts has a range of 180 miles and is extremely accurate.
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Russia Sends More Advanced Missiles to Aid Assad in Syria

By MICHAEL R. GORDON and ERIC SCHMITT
Published: May 16, 2013


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/wo...anted=all&_r=0
Yakhont effective range - ~200mi

Tomahawk effective range - ~900mi

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think we should be committing any troops over there under almost any circumstances, but these missiles are hardly a threat. The biggest threat Syria poses is its air defense system.
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If I were Obama I would put it to a vote in congress, seems everyone in Congress is asking to be consulted but none as I have seen has said to put it to a vote. Everyone,especially rethugs, want to have their cake & eat it too. I would put everybody on the record.
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Right -- so long as the US ships stay out of range.

Last month, Israel attacked Syrian missile batteries along the coast -- an attempt to destroy or degrade the Yakhonts missiles. http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_0...missiles-3943/
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If I were Obama I would put it to a vote in congress, seems everyone in Congress is asking to be consulted but none as I have seen has said to put it to a vote. Everyone,especially rethugs, want to have their cake & eat it too. I would put everybody on the record.
It's very telling how we're talking about attacking another country and the fact that people will die. That a government is poisoning and killing its own people and all you're worried about is saving face for your lord and saviour and the Party.
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