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Old 08-25-2013, 12:25 PM   #76
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1. Andre Caldwell abused Janoris Jenkins.
With 3 total catches? Likely 1-2 against Janoris?

Do you know what "abused" means or should we fetch a dictionary?
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #77
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Wow. The broncos are a break?
No. He's saying the Giants caught a break facing the Broncos without Von Miller.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:35 PM   #78
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With 3 total catches? Likely 1-2 against Janoris?

Do you know what "abused" means or should we fetch a dictionary?
Maybe it was emotional abuse. Sure, the missed plays will sting Janoris now, but the things that Caldwell said to him will hurt for a lifetime.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #79
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The Good

- This offense is going to put up a ton of points, I guess that's sort of a no **** observation...

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- Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Hillman fumble was bad and kid looked devastated on the sideline. A big part of the game is mental strength. Hopefully, he doesn't completely lose confidence.

-Red zone offense

- ...mental mistakes...
I agree that this offense has the potential to "put up a ton of points", but they really need to clean up the turnovers, red zone, and mental mistakes for this to happen. The first team O has been moving the ball all pre-season but not scoring enough. Being the best team on paper isn't good enough. You have to play like the best team.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:39 PM   #80
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With 3 total catches? Likely 1-2 against Janoris?

Do you know what "abused" means or should we fetch a dictionary?
Maybe you could explain it to him seeing as how you are the most abusive person in a three state area
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:44 PM   #81
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Maybe it was emotional abuse. Sure, the missed plays will sting Janoris now, but the things that Caldwell said to him will hurt for a lifetime.
I heard Caldwell tricked Jenkins into spelling ICUP out loud. Then mocked him, farted into his own hand and then threw into Jenkins' face. Jenkins is allegedly devastated.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:47 PM   #82
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I heard Caldwell tricked Jenkins into spelling ICUP out loud. Then mocked him, farted into his own hand and then threw into Jenkins' face. Jenkins is allegedly devastated.
He told him he was adopted.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:02 PM   #83
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:03 PM   #84
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1. Nice to have Adams as a Dime Safety, though Dime package as a whole needs more practice to become effective.
2. Great tenacity by Kavyon to break up pass on 3rd and 6.
3. If you can brainwash Osweiler to believe that he is the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning anything is possible. Yes, even a botched snap inside your own redzone.
4. Can't stress enough how much interior OL is improving. Forget we ever doubted you man known as Ram.
5. JT continues to look like an impact player. Interested to see what Dreessen can add (if anything) when he comes back.
6. Steven Johnson shows his determinationn with helmetless tackle.
7. M Ball runs 3 straight, picking up consistent yardage inside the 5. The Bronco knifed and drug defenders into the endzone with him on 3rd and goal.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:03 PM   #85
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Oh, yeah. DRC was amazing. He made it look effortless. Great pickup by the FO.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:17 PM   #86
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Do you know what "abused" means or should we fetch a dictionary?
Yeah, not quite as dramatic as I made it sound. Jenkins is young and pretty fierce. If I'm worried about anybody, it's Champ.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #87
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Yeah, not quite as dramatic as I made it sound. Jenkins is young and pretty fierce. If I'm worried about anybody, it's Champ.
We're deep enough that it shouldnt matter.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:35 PM   #88
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We're deep enough that it shouldnt matter.
I just got accused of abuse from a woman because I wanted to go home after the club closed at 2 am. Apparently, after 10 or so drinks, she thought her night out on the town was just beginning.

So yeah, my understanding of the word is a little skewed.
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Did anybody watch ManRam extensively? I didn't notice any glaring mistakes and after the game thought he had his best game of the preseason.
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I saw some decent run blocking and pass protection. One thing I noticed is when hes uncovered and assists beadles in a double team he turns his outside shoulder and head completely so that he cant see to disengage if someone blitzes his gap. Twice now, most recently in the Rams game with Finnegan(?), a delayed blitz through his gap has hit or brought down Manning. Now....that may be how hes supposed to play it in the scheme they were playing and they were just overloaded or something...dunno...like I said...I'm not expert...but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Alec Ogletree is just as good as i said he was. Wish we would have picked him.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:59 PM   #91
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Alec Ogletree is just as good as i said he was. Wish we would have picked him.
And he's playing to his strength, chasing and running.

Where would he have fit in with our plans pre draft when SLB is a rush position locked up by Von, and he's too weak to shed tackles, take on blocks, and play MLB. He would be our second or third WLB behind WE and Trevethan. This is pre draft mind you.
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He would be a monster in this defense. He doesn't need to come off the field. He would be starting for us.
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He would be a monster in this defense. He doesn't need to come off the field. He would be starting for us.
At MLB or WLB?
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At MLB or WLB?
Either. Considering how much we run the nickel and how he excels in coverage, it really doesn't matter. He makes plays. He would be on the field a majority of downs.
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I agree that this offense has the potential to "put up a ton of points", but they really need to clean up the turnovers, red zone, and mental mistakes for this to happen. The first team O has been moving the ball all pre-season but not scoring enough. Being the best team on paper isn't good enough. You have to play like the best team.
Last year wasn't a big enough sample size for you to prove our offense can score. Don't concentrate on the aberration, look at the trend. The broncos moved the ball up and down the field. Turnovers happen, but we are gonna score a lot of points this season as long as 18 stays upright
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:53 PM   #96
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With 3 total catches? Likely 1-2 against Janoris?

Do you know what "abused" means or should we fetch a dictionary?
He was fondling his balls at the bottom of the pile a couple times. He sexual abused him..
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:36 AM   #97
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I have to watch the game again, but I think the offense will be fine. I especially liked the way Montee Ball ran, but I think Moreno will be the guy. AS stated...Thomas, J will be a good player, but he has to learn to block and set the edge. He also gave up the field goal block.

Love Wesley Wooyard at MLB. I know it's not optimal, and I think he'll get washed out of some plays all year, but I like the recognition out there

Missing Dummervil

Man Ram did a little better

Though Hillman's fumble call was bull****. His forward progress had stopped, but even still he HAS to hold on to the ball to leave no doubt. He'll get there.

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That field goal block was not a Thomas problem it was a formation problem. Go look at the play again Thomas all by himself was left with two guys to block
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That field goal block was not a Thomas problem it was a formation problem. Go look at the play again Thomas all by himself was left with two guys to block
It was a complete screw up on his part regardless. It is a very fundamental blocking procedure that you always take the inside guy in a situation like that. If the outside guy blocks it so be it but the inside guy will for sure if you block the outside guy. Very basic football knowledge there.
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Preface: I'm no expert

I saw some decent run blocking and pass protection. One thing I noticed is when hes uncovered and assists beadles in a double team he turns his outside shoulder and head completely so that he cant see to disengage if someone blitzes his gap. Twice now, most recently in the Rams game with Finnegan(?), a delayed blitz through his gap has hit or brought down Manning. Now....that may be how hes supposed to play it in the scheme they were playing and they were just overloaded or something...dunno...like I said...I'm not expert...but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
It is just poor technique, it also happened against the Seahawks. You are right that he turns his head and doesn't disengage quickly enough, I think it is because he is used to playing guard where you have more leeway since the center can save your behind.
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