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Old 05-11-2016, 11:27 AM   #1
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Default Oh noes! Football Outsiders has us finishing 7-9, 3rd in the AFCW.

If you have Insider, the link below takes you to the rest. I'm already working on plans for my Sundays this autumn. Elway should be ashamed of building a 7-9 team. We're pretty much doomed.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story...rojections-nfl

AFC West

1. Kansas City Chiefs: 12-4 (11.6 mean wins; SOS: 29)
2. San Diego Chargers: 8-8 (8.4 mean wins; SOS: 31)
3. Denver Broncos: 7-9 (7.1 mean wins; SOS: 13)
4. Oakland Raiders: 6-10 (6.4 mean wins; SOS: 14)

The AFC West has our most controversial projections for 2016, none more so than saying the defending champion Broncos are more likely to have a losing record than a winning record in 2016...

Replacing the Broncos as the likely AFC West standard bearers are the Chiefs. This is only a surprise if you don't realize just how good the Chiefs were last year when they finished the season with 10 straight wins. Even incorporating their 1-5 start, the Chiefs ended up with a higher overall DVOA (fifth) than the Broncos (eighth). One big question here will be the health of pass-rusher Justin Houston. We don't know if he'll be ready by September or miss the whole year; for this projection, we assumed he would miss half the season. But while the Chiefs are definitely not as strong on defense without Houston, they won the last five games in that 10-game streak with Houston stuck on the sidelines...

Full AFC projected playoff standings

Here's what the 2016 AFC playoff picture would look like according to our early projections.

1. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4)
2. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4)
3. New England Patriots (10-6)
4. Houston Texans (8-8)
5. Cincinnati Bengals* (10-6)
6. Baltimore Ravens* (10-6)
7. Buffalo Bills (9-7)
8. San Diego Chargers (8-8)
9. Jacksonville Jaguars (7-9)
10. Denver Broncos (7-9)
11. Indianapolis Colts (7-9)
12. Tennessee Titans(7-9)
13. Oakland Raiders (6-10)
14. New York Jets (6-10)
15. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
16. Cleveland Browns (4-12)
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:28 AM   #2
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That's with the assumption that Butt Fumble is the starter for the whole season. He will be gone after week one.
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:35 AM   #4
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We lose the off season, again.
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Its def more than possible. Football is funny like that. Small sample sizes and all.

That's why we cherish the chip.
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:36 AM   #6
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That's why they're not called "Football INsiders"
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If I take this for what it's worth with us finishing 3rd then I would definitely have Oakland is 2 instead of SD. They have done a lot more to continue to improve than the Chargers
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Its def more than possible. Football is funny like that. Small sample sizes and all.

That's why we cherish the chip.
Sure it's possible, but it's not a realistic prediction based on analysis.
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Chiefs do seem to have a much easier schedule.
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Chiefs do seem to have a much easier schedule.
That's true every year.
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:47 AM   #11
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The Sanchez effect.
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If they handed out the AFC West banner in June, the Chiefs would win it every year.
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:45 PM   #13
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I know. I mean, there's obviously something that rules it out as a barometer to measure things to come. Otherwise, the experts would use it more. It's too bad, though. We seemed like we did pretty well for awhile there, at the end of last season. But I'm not sure anyone had us at number one - even after we won that shiny football thingy, after the last game of the season.
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7-9 is pretty damn unrealistic, even for the most avid of Bronco haters.
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That's with the assumption that Butt Fumble is the starter for the whole season. He will be gone after week one.
If so, we probably will definitely have that record. Why you think a rookie with 1 week of NFL under his belt will be better even than a fumbler like Sanchez is baffling. He will be just as bad, or worse.

Not saying Sanchez will be great, but just remember.. Plummer had just about identical fumble and interception #s before he became a Bronco.
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Replacing the Broncos as the likely AFC West standard bearers are the Chiefs. This is only a surprise if you don't realize just how good the Chiefs were last year when they finished the season with 10 straight wins. Even incorporating their 1-5 start, the Chiefs ended up with a higher overall DVOA (fifth) than the Broncos (eighth). One big question here will be the health of pass-rusher Justin Houston. We don't know if he'll be ready by September or miss the whole year; for this projection, we assumed he would miss half the season. But while the Chiefs are definitely not as strong on defense without Houston, they won the last five games in that 10-game streak with Houston stuck on the sidelines...
Did they also project KC's opponents to be on their 2nd and 3rd string QBs?
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:25 PM   #20
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If you have Insider, the link below takes you to the rest. I'm already working on plans for my Sundays this autumn. Elway should be ashamed of building a 7-9 team. We're pretty much doomed.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story...rojections-nfl

AFC West

1. Kansas City Chiefs: 12-4 (11.6 mean wins; SOS: 29)
2. San Diego Chargers: 8-8 (8.4 mean wins; SOS: 31)
3. Denver Broncos: 7-9 (7.1 mean wins; SOS: 13)
4. Oakland Raiders: 6-10 (6.4 mean wins; SOS: 14)

The AFC West has our most controversial projections for 2016, none more so than saying the defending champion Broncos are more likely to have a losing record than a winning record in 2016...

Replacing the Broncos as the likely AFC West standard bearers are the Chiefs. This is only a surprise if you don't realize just how good the Chiefs were last year when they finished the season with 10 straight wins. Even incorporating their 1-5 start, the Chiefs ended up with a higher overall DVOA (fifth) than the Broncos (eighth). One big question here will be the health of pass-rusher Justin Houston. We don't know if he'll be ready by September or miss the whole year; for this projection, we assumed he would miss half the season. But while the Chiefs are definitely not as strong on defense without Houston, they won the last five games in that 10-game streak with Houston stuck on the sidelines...

Full AFC projected playoff standings

Here's what the 2016 AFC playoff picture would look like according to our early projections.

1. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4)
2. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4)
3. New England Patriots (10-6)
4. Houston Texans (8-8)
5. Cincinnati Bengals* (10-6)
6. Baltimore Ravens* (10-6)
7. Buffalo Bills (9-7)
8. San Diego Chargers (8-8)
9. Jacksonville Jaguars (7-9)
10. Denver Broncos (7-9)
11. Indianapolis Colts (7-9)
12. Tennessee Titans(7-9)
13. Oakland Raiders (6-10)
14. New York Jets (6-10)
15. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
16. Cleveland Browns (4-12)
Same **** different year. Heard the same thing last year. Our defense will be almost as good as last year, and the offense can't be worse. Now we may not pull out as many close wins as we did...but I still see us in the 10-11 win range and I don't think the Chiefs are going to be as good as last year.
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Chiefs do seem to have a much easier schedule.
I don't think so. It's the same schedule we play except while we are at Cincinnati and home to New England they are at Pittsburgh and home to the Jets. Between those two games we may have it slightly harder but not by much. The rest of the games are the same.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:29 PM   #22
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All four team predictions for the AFC West are awful.
Bottom line for us is worst case scenario we have bad QB play all year and don't pull out close games like we did last year. If that is the case we finish with 6-7 wins.

Best case we get average to above average QB play and the defense is great again. If that is the case we win 10-12 games.
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We had Peyton Manning "...in his prime?" No ****?

Sad to hear that our season is going to suck. Oh well. Maybe next year.
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