The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2016, 08:45 PM   #1
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default Tommy 'two yard slant' Brady Couldn’t Take The Pressure

If Tom Brady suffered from nightmares Sunday night, you can bet those dreams prominently featured Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware.

Denver’s pass rush hounded Brady relentlessly during the Patriots’ AFC title game loss to the Broncos, recording a QB pressure on 19 of Brady’s 61 dropbacks according to ESPN’s Stats & Information — the third-most Brady’s been pressured in a game since 2009.1 As a result, Brady was inaccurate — he completed just 48 percent of his passes — indecisive and, ultimately, ineffective as New England’s season came to an abrupt halt.

It’s hardly a secret that pressure is Brady’s Kryptonite — the league’s been trying to re-create the Giants’ Super Bowl XLII game plan for years. But while every quarterback sees a dramatic decline in performance with onrushing defenders in his face, Brady is especially susceptible to their deleterious effects. Since 2009, the average QB sees a 61-point dip in Total Quarterback Rating when pressured, compared with unpressured plays. Brady’s QBR, however, dropped 75 points over that span while under pressure — the biggest drop-off of any qualified QB.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-the-pressure/


That boy soft.



Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-27-2016, 12:22 PM   #2
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default


Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 12:23 PM   #3
NE Cheaters
Solid Starter
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Nowhere near Ma-holeville.
Posts: 122

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Peyton Manning
Default

Cue up the Billy Joel song.
NE Cheaters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 12:34 PM   #4
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default


Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 12:38 PM   #5
ColoradoDarin
Busting off 2k
 
ColoradoDarin's Avatar
 
Since 1986

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wilson, NC
Posts: 14,124
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NE Cheaters View Post
Cue up the Billy Joel song.
ColoradoDarin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 04:55 PM   #6
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default


Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 04:59 PM   #7
DB-Freak
Chunky Soup
 
DB-Freak's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,995
Default

To be fair, ANY quarterback would have crumbled under that kind of pressure.

That game was absolutely beastly from a pass rushing perspective.
DB-Freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 05:00 PM   #8
DB-Freak
Chunky Soup
 
DB-Freak's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,995
Default

And the fact they only sent 3 or 4 players after the QB, made it even more ridiculous.

No QB is going do well against that kind of pressure and coverage.
DB-Freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 05:45 PM   #9
Man-Goblin
One Gap Penetrator
 
Man-Goblin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Broncos Country
Posts: 6,672

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Shiloh Keo
Default

I don't get the whole 2 yard slant thing.
Man-Goblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 11:17 PM   #10
Blueflame
Miss Congeniality
 
Blueflame's Avatar
 
Welcome to Peyton's Place

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: filling the cups... lol
Posts: 34,909

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Randy Gradishar
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man-Goblin View Post
I don't get the whole 2 yard slant thing.
Refers to dink-and-dunk short-yardage relying on YAC passing game.
Blueflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2016, 11:53 PM   #11
broncocalijohn
Famer of Rings
 
broncocalijohn's Avatar
 
I said Do It!

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 26,224

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Simon Fletcher
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco Rob View Post

And we know one of those passes was the 4th and ten bomb to Gronk.
broncocalijohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:05 AM   #12
Man-Goblin
One Gap Penetrator
 
Man-Goblin's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Broncos Country
Posts: 6,672

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Shiloh Keo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueflame View Post
Refers to dink-and-dunk short-yardage relying on YAC passing game.
Uh, ok.
Man-Goblin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:48 AM   #13
Blueflame
Miss Congeniality
 
Blueflame's Avatar
 
Welcome to Peyton's Place

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: filling the cups... lol
Posts: 34,909

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Randy Gradishar
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man-Goblin View Post
Uh, ok.
That's just how "I" interpreted it -- *shrug*
Blueflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 08:34 AM   #14
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueflame View Post
Refers to dink-and-dunk short-yardage relying on YAC passing game.

Ever watch a patriots game? The ball rarely travels beyond the line of scrimmage on 85% of the throws.



Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 09:24 AM   #15
manchambo
Ring of Famer
 
manchambo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco Rob View Post

Is there anything dumber than an "under pressure" stat? Might just as well say "on unsuccessful plays the Pats were unsuccessful."
manchambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 09:44 AM   #16
Circle Orange
Apocalypse.
 
Circle Orange's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Styxx, D.C.
Posts: 4,050
Default

Tender Tom is as ordinary as toast when:

He doesn't have all day to pitch and toss 10 yards. Of course, the media loves him for this.
Circle Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 10:04 AM   #17
NYBroncoManiac
Ring of Famer
 
NYBroncoManiac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,638
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco Rob View Post
Ever watch a patriots game? The ball rarely travels beyond the line of scrimmage on 85% of the throws.



This is what the Broncos finally figured out. If the receivers are never outside the 5 yard, ok to maul them, territory, then you can legally block and chuck them for their entire route without getting called for pass interference.
NYBroncoManiac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 11:07 AM   #18
NE Cheaters
Solid Starter
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Nowhere near Ma-holeville.
Posts: 122

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Peyton Manning
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin View Post
Different song with a different meaning. I was referring to Joel's line, "and you cannot handle pressure!"

I actually like Queen's song better, but the lyrics I meant were more appropriate to the topic.
NE Cheaters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 11:11 AM   #19
v2micca
Tupac at Coachella
 
v2micca's Avatar
 
Richard III was a field guide.

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,515
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by manchambo View Post
Is there anything dumber than an "under pressure" stat? Might just as well say "on unsuccessful plays the Pats were unsuccessful."
Agreed. Quarterbacks struggle when their receivers are blanketed and their offensive line is routinely obliterated by a 3 to 4 man pass rush. That's no indictment on Tommy, just an affirmation of how well our Defense played.
v2micca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:37 PM   #20
B-Large
Ring of Famer
 
B-Large's Avatar
 
My Lord, Schofield... My Lord

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,345
Default

Their heel was no run game, and no semblance of even trying to run the ball. The Patriots offense and TB is on another level when the O-line is exceptional, but you can't stand back there scanning the field with 5 Schofields and expect not to get killed.
B-Large is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:38 PM   #21
4Horsemen
Seasoned Veteran
 
4Horsemen's Avatar
 
Go pound salt Panther Nation!

Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 418
Default

it was a total dismantling of a teams offense. it was beautiful.
4Horsemen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:40 PM   #22
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default












Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:42 PM   #23
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by v2micca View Post
Agreed. Quarterbacks struggle when their receivers are blanketed and their offensive line is routinely obliterated by a 3 to 4 man pass rush. That's no indictment on Tommy, just an affirmation of how well our Defense played.

WRONG! Two yard slant tommy was throwing at his receivers ankles even when had time.

He is soft..period end of discussion.






Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 12:44 PM   #24
Bronco Rob
Ring of Famer
 
Bronco Rob's Avatar
 
The Alpha & The Omega

Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,230

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Kush & Irsay
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBroncoManiac View Post
This is what the Broncos finally figured out. If the receivers are never outside the 5 yard, ok to maul them, territory, then you can legally block and chuck them for their entire route without getting called for pass interference.

If the other 30 teams do... two yard tommy's career is over.




Bronco Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2016, 01:12 PM   #25
Blueflame
Miss Congeniality
 
Blueflame's Avatar
 
Welcome to Peyton's Place

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: filling the cups... lol
Posts: 34,909

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Randy Gradishar
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronco Rob View Post
Ever watch a patriots game? The ball rarely travels beyond the line of scrimmage on 85% of the throws.



Here's a big confession -- a secret that no one ever suspected: (*whispers*) I don't like the Patriots.
Blueflame is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:05 PM.


Denver Broncos