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Old 08-03-2013, 02:45 PM   #176
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I'll see your Niger please and raise you Chris Rock's -

Please clarify your ethnic background. I am not sure if I should be outraged just yet.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:28 PM   #177
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I counted how many times I heard the N word today and the persons race who said it. 9 times were a black person. 1 time from a white dude and 1 time from a Mexican.
You can now find the white dude and the Mexican recovering nicely at your local hospital.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:33 PM   #178
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Can't say I blame Cito for having the attitude he has.......after all, if the president can claim a black person's life experiences can cause their racist views of whites, then why can't the scenario be reversed? Maybe some blacks have wronged Cito......or a member of his family?

Add in that we've been told by the liberals in this nation that

the entire world's ancestors came from Africa,

that Adam and Eve were actually black,

and that it's cool if blacks call other blacks the "N" word regardless if they use the "er" or "a"

so using their alleged truths, then that logically means that Cito's ancestors are from Africa, and were black, and since that means he's really a black man, why can't he use the word if it's allegedly ok for blacks to use it?

If a woman went around calling other women a B itch, a W hore, or a C unt.....why would she then be shocked if a man called her the same thing?

amazing how a black man can call a white man "cracker" or "cracka" and nobody says crap (and "cracker" is used the same way as "N" word is used - to cause hurt, demean, and make fun of)...but when the roles are reversed and a white guy uses that "N" word it's a major crime?

I've said it many times on here....a derogatory name is a derogatory name regardless of who says it. Justice for everyone or justice for no one.....if the NFL is gonna punish him for saying it, they should punish everyone who says it or any other derogatory name regardless of skin color
You missed Santa Claus. He's definately black too. Nigerian I think.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:35 AM   #179
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You're going to suspend someone for saying something offensive? I don't agree with that.
Agreed they need to suspend about every other black player that freely uses the word or any variation of it.
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Cooper doesn't have to worry much about being suspended. He has to worry about being accepted back into the locker room. I guess that's what happens when you use hateful terminology toward 80% of your teammates. Poor baby.
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Cooper needs a veteran black teammate to cross the locker room, put his arm around him and walk him back to the team.

That would be a generous act.
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Well I didn't see any in the short video? No need for a smart @** remark!
Dude, concerning your unreadable post on page 6, it was a smart ass remark or reply to a horrible structured sentence. It made no sense. Own up to it and no need to call someone out on it with a little Omane humor to it.
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I am not sure if Cito or Errand's response to it is worse then the other.

Fact: White guy wants to fight "****ers"...all of them.

He didn't want to fight one a-hole that he wanted to call a ****er, he seems to respond to all blacks. Big difference when blacks call each other ****ers or ****as. Hard for them to complain about the word when they use it so freely.

There are whites that are considered White Trash and there are blacks that are considered ****ers. BUT, calling out what seemed like the whole race (or at least all blacks working the concert) is pretty much the reason he is being lambasted by all people except a few like you two.

I do consider being drunk is an excuse but he should be responsible for what he said. He is probably screwed as he is in a profession where most players are black. Good luck with that Cooper!

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Old 08-04-2013, 06:11 PM   #184
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While white America is subject to music, movies, and political rants by the likes of










And we're going to wail about a drunken football player?

Nuh uh.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:13 PM   #185
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Cooper needs a veteran black teammate to cross the locker room, put his arm around him and walk him back to the team.

That would be a generous act.
I don't see why. I see so much anti-white bilge by athletes, entertainers, and elsewhere that people aren't held to the fire for. Why here and now other than the guy is white?

Isn't that racist profiling?
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Eh. I'm a white guy. I laugh at racist jokes. I do think there are reverse racism examples (Obama's reelection, for one).

...but I definitely avoid that word. Nothing positive comes from it and there are no words a minority could say to me that has the same emotional degradation or or negative connotation and that's really the bottom-line for me.

"Honkey" or "cracker" will never have the same emasculating effect or have the same power to undercut an entire race and their cultural accomplishments with a single word.

Maybe Jews can associate somewhat since their "k-word" is pretty heavy too, but I simply don't have a place to say either.

So you can turn this into a conversation about liberalism, anecdotal experience and about how common blacks use the word themselves, but the bottom-line is that you're reaching to justify something that's wrong. And even if you found enough to justify it, it's still wrong and always will be.

Last thing: How did you fit a weird anti-evolution rant in there?
How ya doin, white boy? A grown man like yourself, do you like being called white boy? Blacks routinely use that description of whites. Of course, if I used a term like "black boy" oh man, that's off limits, man I need counseling.

**** that, I don't tiptoe around black folks. I'm not scared of blacks like many whites are.
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How ya doin, white boy? A grown man like yourself, do you like being called white boy? Blacks routinely use that description of whites. Of course, if I used a term like "black boy" oh man, that's off limits, man I need counseling.

**** that, I don't tiptoe around black folks. I'm not scared of blacks like many whites are.
I'm not that sensitive Cito.

And it's not about what other people do. It's about what you do. That's what matters.
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I'm not that sensitive Cito.

And it's not about what other people do. It's about what you do. That's what matters.
Alright. Carry on, and let's hope it all works out OK somewhere down the road.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:02 PM   #189
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How ya doin, white boy? A grown man like yourself, do you like being called white boy? Blacks routinely use that description of whites. Of course, if I used a term like "black boy" oh man, that's off limits, man I need counseling.

**** that, I don't tiptoe around black folks. I'm not scared of blacks like many whites are.
I don't think it's fear so much as white guilt.

I've been called cracker plenty of times. I'm not a man, so "white boy" doesn't apply.
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Eh. I'm a white guy. I laugh at racist jokes. I do think there are reverse racism examples (Obama's reelection, for one).

...but I definitely avoid that word. Nothing positive comes from it and there are no words a minority could say to me that has the same emotional degradation or or negative connotation and that's really the bottom-line for me.

"Honkey" or "cracker" will never have the same emasculating effect or have the same power to undercut an entire race and their cultural accomplishments with a single word.

Maybe Jews can associate somewhat since their "k-word" is pretty heavy too, but I simply don't have a place to say either.

So you can turn this into a conversation about liberalism, anecdotal experience and about how common blacks use the word themselves, but the bottom-line is that you're reaching to justify something that's wrong. And even if you found enough to justify it, it's still wrong and always will be.

Last thing: How did you fit a weird anti-evolution rant in there?
This is how I view the word racist:

It's a racial slur against whites. Why? Because it's used almost exclusively as a character attack against whites only.
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I dont feel guilt. I can't be sorry for something I have not done. I also cannot be held responsible for the failings of other ethnic groups.

Plus, I have been called worse things then white boy or cracker. Says more about the assbag using that word then anything else.

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The N-word is more offensive than other racial epithets for the simple reality and legacy of slavery. If you simply put yourself in the shoes of being an AA and imagine someone calling YOU that word, I think it's fairly reasonable to see how powerful in a negative sense that word truly is.

On the other hand, NO ONE SHOULD USE THAT WORD and if we are in the business of persecuting individuals for using that word, the punishment needs to be universal. Our current political climate is one where we tend to hold one group of people to a different/higher standard than others. It's done in the media(see Zimmerman, JENA6 , Duke Rape Hoax and the lack of coverage of the much more prominent interracial crimes that involve black perps and white victims--that's our CURRENT REALITY), at schools (see the current administrations policy on school discipline based on RACE http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/ob...line-policies/) and in business (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...iring-ex-cons/). IF we truly want to move forward as a nation, we need to aspire to having everyone raise up to meet those high standards instead of our current policies of different standards for different races of people while pretending that our country is stronger for it.

Riley Cooper used the N-word out of anger/frustration and it was reprehensible. There are many blacks who use the same word far more often under the same pretense of anger and frustration. This event should truly be about removing the word altogether from our collective vocabularies but instead it's use is being defended by some (Rodney Harrison,etc) as some sort of birth right because one happens to have more melanin than another person. This could be an occasion for the Eagles and the NFL to take a stand against the use of the N word altogether; instead it's become another attempt to politically and culturally assassinate people of European descent, with Riley Cooper being the epicenter.
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I am not sure if Cito or Errand's response to it is worse then the other.

then you need to read the posts again.....all I said about Cito's post was I understand his way of thinking....did not say I agreed with it.

Fact: White guy wants to fight "****ers"...all of them.

did it ever occur to you that there were 2-3 or more people in the group he was directing his remarks towards? I doubt he meant every black person in the world....but regardless, where in my posts did I say it was OK to say it?

He didn't want to fight one a-hole that he wanted to call a ****er, he seems to respond to all blacks.

...or as I pointed out perhaps it was a group of blacks

Big difference when blacks call each other ****ers or ****as. Hard for them to complain about the word when they use it so freely.

OK, so now you just said the same thing Cito said....

There are whites that are considered White Trash and there are blacks that are considered ****ers.

Derogatory names are derogatory names..I've always said that. But here you are stating that there are "****ers". Wow....so I'm guessing you use the word a few times?



BUT, calling out what seemed like the whole race (or at least all blacks working the concert) is pretty much the reason he is being lambasted by all people except a few like you two.

Again, read the posts again, because I have stated numerous times it's a derogatory name and shouldn't be used by anyone of any race....so WTF do you mean "you two"?

I do consider being drunk is an excuse but he should be responsible for what he said.

Drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts.....so, no it's not an excuse.


He is probably screwed as he is in a profession where most players are black. Good luck with that Cooper!

Perhaps he is screwed.....but seriously who truly has even heard of this guy until now?

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You can now find the white dude and the Mexican recovering nicely at your local hospital.
That's not a very complimentary thing to say about black people. It implies they're more prone to violent reactions to verbal slights.
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I am not going to go over everything as I would have to make this like some essay but yes, I have used the word Ni**er before as well as white trash. In fact, I am sure you won't be able to read the "N Word" but no problem seeing the White Trash phrase. Difference is I don't use the N word in public and I don't refer all blacks as ****ers (as I don't refer all whites as White Trash). I rarely use the word ****er or White Trash but I feel certain type of person earns both words. I wouldn't use it to describe all people as I try to judge everyone on their own merit. I don't want to fight all blacks or ****ers as Cooper stated in his rant. I also believe you do things drunk that you don't do sober and doesn't mean you want to do it but being drunk brings it out. That is way too simple excuse. I doubt most people want to go 100 mph the wrong way on a freeway. Many fights happen during drunk situations but those participants might never have thought of raising their fist in anger.
Was Cooper just saying what he really feels? I am not sure but I do know he might have some issues with drinking or blacks.
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The N-word is more offensive than other racial epithets for the simple reality and legacy of slavery. If you simply put yourself in the shoes of being an AA and imagine someone calling YOU that word, I think it's fairly reasonable to see how powerful in a negative sense that word truly is.
I disagree, and I'm sick of hearing "the legacy of slavery" invoked for all types of ****ty behavior. Words we consider epithets today were considered neutral or even polite when used. Words like negro or colored were not epithets at the time. Now I'm told I am "racist" at times for using the word black, even though that was the word that whites were told by black leadership to use in place of words like colored and negro until Jesse Jackson came along in the 1980s and changed it to "African-American."

Modern political connotations are often totally void of historical accuracy.

So all I can figure is that James Brown was being racist when he sang, "Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud."
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I disagree, and I'm sick of hearing "the legacy of slavery" invoked for all types of ****ty behavior. Words we consider epithets today were considered neutral or even polite when used. Words like negro or colored were not epithets at the time. Now I'm told I am "racist" at times for using the word black, even though that was the word that whites were told by black leadership to use in place of words like colored and negro until Jesse Jackson came along in the 1980s and changed it to "African-American."

Modern political connotations are often totally void of historical accuracy.

So all I can figure is that James Brown was being racist when he sang, "Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud."
I'd bet quite a bit of money that no one ever actually called you racist for using the word "black".
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I disagree, and I'm sick of hearing "the legacy of slavery" invoked for all types of ****ty behavior. Words we consider epithets today were considered neutral or even polite when used. Words like negro or colored were not epithets at the time. Now I'm told I am "racist" at times for using the word black, even though that was the word that whites were told by black leadership to use in place of words like colored and negro until Jesse Jackson came along in the 1980s and changed it to "African-American."

Modern political connotations are often totally void of historical accuracy.

So all I can figure is that James Brown was being racist when he sang, "Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud."
When were you called a racist for using the word "Black" instead of African American? I know you are trying to tell a point but don't make **** up.
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When were you called a racist for using the word "Black" instead of African American? I know you are trying to tell a point but don't make **** up.
Not often, but it's happened now and again. Twice online and once in person, years ago, I was scolded for saying "black." The one online who called me racist for it was struck silent when I linked her to James Brown's music. Illiteracy is an ugly thing.
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I'd bet quite a bit of money that no one ever actually called you racist for using the word "black".
Then you'd lose quite a bit of money.
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