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Old 07-17-2013, 11:59 AM   #51
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What type of "consequences" are you suggesting in this case? You might want to read the First Amendment.
This!

The 1st isn't there for speech you *agree* with.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:06 PM   #52
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Did Stillwater ever get on the Rolling Stone cover?

Usually by that point in the movie I am thinking about all the depraved things I would do with Kate Hudson, Zooey Dechannel, and a bottle of Qualudes that I forget how the movie ends.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:37 PM   #53
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Is Rolling Stone Magazine trying to step out of the "Music" scene that they are known for? This seems to be more from Time magazine. If this is the norm for RS going beyond music then I have no problem with the cover. I would prefer for them to stick to what they know best and do music editorials if they want to get news-worthy.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:53 PM   #54
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I hope he "wants to buy five copies for his mother"
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:12 PM   #55
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Is Rolling Stone Magazine trying to step out of the "Music" scene that they are known for? This seems to be more from Time magazine. If this is the norm for RS going beyond music then I have no problem with the cover. I would prefer for them to stick to what they know best and do music editorials if they want to get news-worthy.
Somewhat the norm. Bush was on the cover 3 times, Romney, Regan, Obama (8 times), Ford, Carter, Kerry, Gore, Jim McMahon, Shaq, Dennis Rodman, O.J, Charles Manson along with a ton of actors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Rolling_Stone
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:32 PM   #56
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:59 PM   #57
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So noone here had read the actual article?

Pity but not surprised. Its a incredibly well reported story.

It earned the cover for a reason.

But who cares!? Feelings!
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:06 PM   #58
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So noone here had read the actual article?

Pity but not surprised. Its a incredibly well reported story.

It earned the cover for a reason.

But who cares!? Feelings!
This is America, we react 1st and ask questions (i.e. get informed) later.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:35 PM   #59
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That is ridiculous to include one of the best Presidents we have had, must have been a mistake...I would say you could easily put Obama in that group.
Don't forget the famous Bill Clinton with a codpiece cover--I think that was RS.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:26 PM   #60
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who gives a ****. Id love this one...

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Old 07-17-2013, 11:28 PM   #61
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I just don't understand the uproar. The whole point is he looks like a trendy, normal, decent looking teenager. How did this seemingly normal kid turn into a monster? Isn't that what the article is about? It's a bit of a provocative photo, but its also the same photo used in the new york times and other publications. It's not meant to glorify him, it's meant to make you think. I'm honestly shocked by the over sensitivity to a mostly benign image

And before you **** on Rolling Stone, don't forget just a couple of years ago one of their articles took down a military general.

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Old 07-17-2013, 11:33 PM   #62
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ya'll are crazy. I saw this cover and it didn't even occur to me that being angry was an option.

the kid is relevant. he just made a public court appearance. it's important to try to learn about things instead of screaming at them in a vain hope that they will go away.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:18 AM   #63
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If they issued a turban sticker to put on his head would that help you guys out? Or maybe a pube-beard?
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who gives a ****. Id love this one...

Clearly, the fellow who made this didn't read the article. It didn't glorify or make excuses for the suspect at all. It was basically just sort of a how did this normal, trendy looking kid become a monster piece. Furthermore, Hitler and Stalin were on the cover of Time in the 40s. No one claimed they were "glorifying" Hitler or Stalin. They were top newsmakers of their time. Top newsmakers make the covers of magazines. It doesn't mean they are being bestowed some great privilege.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:43 AM   #65
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Clearly, the fellow who made this didn't read the article. It didn't glorify or make excuses for the suspect at all. It was basically just sort of a how did this normal, trendy looking kid become a monster piece. Furthermore, Hitler and Stalin were on the cover of Time in the 40s. No one claimed they were "glorifying" Hitler or Stalin. They were top newsmakers of their time. Top newsmakers make the covers of magazines. It doesn't mean they are being bestowed some great privilege.
The Time magazine articles when they made Stalin and Hitler their man of the year were pretty kind about them...

I know that's not always the case but those aren't good examples.
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The #freejahar movement loves the cover.



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Ticket sales for his next tour are crazy high on Stubhub.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:05 PM   #68
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I really feel this is a complete non-starter as a story. I just don't get the controversy or outrage over this one. I can only speculate that it once again the Boston mentality that gets supremely butt-hurt over anyone not properly recognizing their suffering.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:25 PM   #69
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Its an article and a cover designed to elicit sympathy for a mass murderer. That is what makes it offensive. There are ways to tell the story you want without putting a glamour shot on the cover.


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Its an article and a cover designed to elicit sympathy for a mass murderer.
You didn't read the article if that's what you believe.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:40 PM   #71
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Its an article and a cover designed to elicit sympathy for a mass murderer. That is what makes it offensive. There are ways to tell the story you want without putting a glamour shot on the cover.


Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but did you actually read the article?

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...0130717?page=5

The point of the article and the cover art, is the weird marriage of fundamental Islam extremism and normal secular life that this kid represents. He lived pretty much like every suburban middle-class teen would live right up until the bombing. Many of us, (myself included) have this caricature of Islamic extremism in our minds as the shrieking Allahu Akbar bearded guy with an AK-47. This kid is basically a monster who looks like Justin Bieber.

He represents a dark new chapter in our country's glorification of mass-murderers. From Jesse James, to Al Capone, to Charles Manson, many people have often romanticized sociopaths and murders. Unfortunately, this kid is the first terrorist to receive this sort of teen fan club type of following because of how he looks. Sick as it is, that's what makes it a compelling and important story from a historical standpoint. We can't just view Islamic terrorists living in this country as "those quiet bearded guys from Saudi that rented an apartment for a month before blowing a bunch of people up."

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Old 07-18-2013, 12:52 PM   #72
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Serious question:

When was the last time any of you read a magazine?
For some reason, no joke, I get subscriptions to 3 different magazines that I never subscribed to and have never paid for. It's bizarre. I have no idea how they got my name and nobody I know is paying for them, but they started coming all around the same time a year or two ago and keep coming every week/month.

SI
Entertainment Weekly
Golf Digest (and I despise golf)

I never even open the Golf Digests. I just bring them to work and throw them in the cafe for whoever wants it.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:53 PM   #73
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I really feel this is a complete non-starter as a story. I just don't get the controversy or outrage over this one. I can only speculate that it once again the Boston mentality that gets supremely butt-hurt over anyone not properly recognizing their suffering.
If that was the case, then the protests would be isolated to the Boston area. That's not even close to being the case though.
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When was the last time any of you read a magazine?
Last time I dropped a duce.

I get Time and popular mechanics for free from some Coke points thing the wife does.

I get Keyboard and EM mags for the music and Gear Porn fix.

I only just stopped getting Air and Space because it was so expensive and I could read them online.

I pass all but the music mags on to to other friends and family when I am done, I just don't mention where I read them.
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Its an article and a cover designed to elicit sympathy for a mass murderer. That is what makes it offensive. There are ways to tell the story you want without putting a glamour shot on the cover.


I don't think it elicits sympathy at all. I thought it was a good cover for the article. Are people really losing sleep over this?
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