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Old 07-13-2013, 10:26 AM   #51
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Im excited to see what Irving can do. I cant help but think Del Rios great at coaching up LBers. From a scheme point of view, he looks like a perfect fit. In college he was great at attacking gaps and making plays in the backfield. I do think he will be a physical presence in the middle by delivering massive hits, although his biggest weakness in college was getting off the block.

I dont expect Irving to be a 3 down LBer right off the bat, or possibly at all this year, as Woodyard and Travathan have secured that role imo. In this kind of role, I think Irving has a good year and turns out to be a solid pick.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:36 AM   #52
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kinda like Wolfe
I don't know about Irving, but Wolfe is going to be a monster this season.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:41 AM   #53
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I don't know about Irving, but Wolfe is going to be a monster this season.
indeed he is. that was more of a jab at requiem's previous talent evaluations
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:03 PM   #54
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indeed he is. that was more of a jab at requiem's previous talent evaluations
Good job on bringing up Wolfe, whose talent was never questioned, I just preferred other players at DT.
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Good job on bringing up Wolfe, whose talent was never questioned, I just preferred other players at DT.

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Where did I down Wolfe's talent?
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:21 PM   #57
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You hated the pick than you loved the pick - what changed? His perceived talent?
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:22 PM   #58
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Im excited to see what Irving can do. I cant help but think Del Rios great at coaching up LBers. From a scheme point of view, he looks like a perfect fit. In college he was great at attacking gaps and making plays in the backfield. I do think he will be a physical presence in the middle by delivering massive hits, although his biggest weakness in college was getting off the block.

I dont expect Irving to be a 3 down LBer right off the bat, or possibly at all this year, as Woodyard and Travathan have secured that role imo. In this kind of role, I think Irving has a good year and turns out to be a solid pick.
Well, this is his 3rd year with the same coaches, maybe the light has come on for him. Del Rio is saying good things about him. For me, it's hard to imagine a guy that has done basically nothing (but been on the active roster for 31 of 32 games) will be special. Adequate maybe, but I fully expect him to get picked on by offenses much like Joe Mays was.
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You hated the pick than you loved the pick - what changed? His perceived talent?
I liked the pick after his first year performance. I did not like it at first. I would have preferred Jerel Worthy. Everyone, even pricejj knew that. Easy enough for you to understand?
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I liked the pick after his first year performance. I did not like it at first. I would have preferred Jerel Worthy. Everyone, even pricejj knew that. Easy enough for you to understand?

You really think we don't remember your draft day bed wetting?
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You really think we don't remember your draft day bed wetting?
Do you really think I am surprised that you don't understand context?
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Do you really think I am surprised that you don't understand context?
I get it, you want us to believe that you thought although he is a great player he was not a good fit for the Broncos.

Maybe someone not as lazy as me will dig up the draft day thread and post some of your takes from that day
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:21 PM   #63
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Everyone, even pricejj knew that. Easy enough for you to understand?
You pledged to take a dook on the 50 yard-line during training camp if the Broncos drafted Wolfe. If you're back in CO meet me at Dove Valley 8:50am sharp on the first Saturday, for the ceremony.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:47 PM   #64
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Well, this is his 3rd year with the same coaches, maybe the light has come on for him. Del Rio is saying good things about him. For me, it's hard to imagine a guy that has done basically nothing (but been on the active roster for 31 of 32 games) will be special. Adequate maybe, but I fully expect him to get picked on by offenses much like Joe Mays was.
Id be fine with adequate. Thats all the Broncos need from a him at this point. The defense is stacked and as long as everyone does their part, they should be top 10 easly.

He'll be picked on, to which extent I dont know, but having the luxury of 2 good nickle lbers already on the roster has to help him out.

Mays is good comparison because he cant play in coverage and Im not sure Irving can either, but what I am expecting is Irving to be a much better blitzer than Mays ever ways. This would definitley help ease some of the pain losing Dumervil has caused.

But even if Irving doesnt pan out immedietly or at all this season, I have confidence that Bradley can fill his role decently and not become a liablity on running downs.
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I don't know about Irving, but Wolfe is going to be a monster this season.
Yeah Wolfe reminds me of a 300 lb Ed Mccaffrey!
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:44 PM   #66
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Yeah Wolfe reminds me of a 300 lb Ed Mccaffrey!
Yeah like a bigger version of Wes Welker, like Watt who is just another Adam Carriker.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:54 PM   #67
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The Broncos appear to be much improved at DT. That should help out the MLB, whoever it is.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:30 AM   #68
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So you won't put Harris into the same conversation as TD until he does something no corner back has ever done in the history of the NFL? That sounds reasonable. Considering only two defensive players have ever won MVP, should Harris ever win MVP. TD would have to come back and rush for over 10000 yards before I would put him in the same conversation as Harris.
Um lets see. The answer is no. I did not say Harris has to be MVP. I said, in a nut shell, let's see him make a few probowls and do some special things in this league before you start throwing around his name with the likes of TD and what he has done for this team. I'm not sure I follow what you are saying. Sounds to me like you're calling Harris a better player then the great Terrell Davis. I could be wrong but it sounds like that's what you're getting after. I think you had better go get your meds checked if indeed that's where you are.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:18 AM   #69
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:22 AM   #70
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Um lets see. The answer is no. I did not say Harris has to be MVP. I said, in a nut shell, let's see him make a few probowls and do some special things in this league before you start throwing around his name with the likes of TD and what he has done for this team. I'm not sure I follow what you are saying. Sounds to me like you're calling Harris a better player then the great Terrell Davis. I could be wrong but it sounds like that's what you're getting after. I think you had better go get your meds checked if indeed that's where you are.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:24 PM   #71
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Forget ST's. We're talking about him as a LB'er. He does hit? What does he hit? The sleds in practice? Because he's sure not hitting anything on the field during games, as a MLB.
That's silly. Forget special teams? We're talking about whether or not he can hit. Why does a hard hit on a special teams play not show he can hit? He hit a lot of things on the field during games. Mostly punt/kick returners.

If you want to talk about his coverage ability or his ability to read and diagnose plays, then yeah, sure, forget special teams. Those are skills that he can only display by playing MLB. But simply his hitting ability? He's definitely shown that in his play on special teams.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:22 PM   #72
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That's silly. Forget special teams? We're talking about whether or not he can hit. Why does a hard hit on a special teams play not show he can hit? He hit a lot of things on the field during games. Mostly punt/kick returners.

If you want to talk about his coverage ability or his ability to read and diagnose plays, then yeah, sure, forget special teams. Those are skills that he can only display by playing MLB. But simply his hitting ability? He's definitely shown that in his play on special teams.
Irving lead the team (or tied for the lead, actually) in special teams tackles last year.

I believe he also forced special teams fumble as well.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:43 PM   #74
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Irving's gonna rack up 200 tackles, 5 sacks, 5 interceptions, 3 fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries and 3 defensive touchdowns.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:03 PM   #75
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Irving's gonna rack up 200 tackles, 5 sacks, 5 interceptions, 3 fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries and 3 defensive touchdowns.
WHAT!!!! ARE YOU NUTS?

No way he gets more than two defensive Touchdowns.
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