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Old 06-27-2013, 09:28 AM   #901
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Why would they want kFc's garbage?
For two years on this board he has told us how good Moeaki was and how he was missed when hurt. Now KC doesn't need him. Also Daniel Fells would be more productive then Moeaki would be for the Pats.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:51 AM   #902
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...it seems the Patriots turned a blind eye and are now being praised.
I agree they shouldn't necessarily be "praised" for releasing Hernandez. But at the same time I don't think it's fair to condemn them for "turning a blind eye". If they had any reason to discipline him before I'm sure they would have. Until that point I'm not sure what you'd have them do. Cut him for being an a-hole? I'm sure every team has their fair share of them to some extent.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:54 AM   #903
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Aaron Hernandez - TE - Free Agent

Sources tell FOX 25 Boston that investigators consider Aaron Hernandez a possible suspect in a 2012 double murder that occurred in Boston.
On July 16 of last year, police responded to an intersection in downtown Boston. They found three men had been shot while stopped at a traffic light -- two of them fatally. The deceased were identified as Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu, and they had reportedly just left a bar. Hernandez reportedly was involved in a nightclub altercation earlier that night. Witnesses said a gray or silver SUV with Rhode Island plates opened fire and then fled. The investigation is ongoing. Meanwhile, Hernandez was charged with the murder of Odin Lloyd on Wednesday and is facing a civil suit for shooting a man in the face in Florida in February. He'll be in court Thursday afternoon for a bail hearing.

I think Boston is safer with this guy behind bars.

For those keeping count he is rumored to have shot 6 people now. A couple in college, the dude in the face, Llyod, and now these two.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:11 AM   #904
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The only thing I know about Moeaki is Joe Mays of all people laid him out.

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:15 AM   #905
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Hernandez is going to need a Latino jury to escape like OJ did.

If he murdered the guy in Arizona or Miami he might have a chance, but he's in Mass, haha
I think a jury of Gators fans would do the trick as well.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:18 AM   #906
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"BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) -- FOX 25 has learned exclusively that investigators are looking into Aaron Hernandez as a possible suspect in a double murder that happened on July 16, 2012 in downtown Boston.

According to the Boston Police blog from that date, officers responded to the intersection of Shawmut Avenue and Herald Street just after 2 a.m. When they arrived, they found three people had been shot, two fatally, as they sat in a car at a traffic light.

The men were identified as Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu. The FOX 25 source said the men, who worked at a cleaning company in Dorchester, had just left a bar in the area.

Furtado and Abreu were sitting in the front seat of the vehicle when witnesses said the occupants of a gray or silver SUV with Rhode Island plates opened fire on it. The surviving victim was in the back seat. Investigators believed two others in the car fled the scene.

The source said that investigators were looking into Aaron Hernandez's connection to the killing.

On Wednesday, Hernandez was charged with murder in the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd, of Dorchester.

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/227...#ixzz2XQXxcY1R
If he was involved in this it would make the killing of Taylor more understandable, from Hernanez perspective. He got away with it once (or who knows) and he's invincible.
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Wonder if Odin knew about the two murders and was going to blow the lid on Hernandez? Provides motive for this execution style murder.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:32 AM   #908
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Wonder if Odin knew about the two murders and was going to blow the lid on Hernandez? Provides motive for this execution style murder.
That might make sense, except for why would he go anywhere with AH if that were the case.
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What's creepy is that at 3:00AM, after he had been in the car for about an hour, and about 20 minutes before he was killed.......he texted his sister to say, "Do you know who I'm with?"....."NFL"....."just so you know."

It seems as if because of the escalating argument in the car, he was getting worried for his safety, and wanted to be sure that if something happened to him, that someone knew who he was with.
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Globe: Lloyd’s death could be tied to July 12 double murder

Posted by Mike Florio on June 27, 2013, 1:30 PM EDT

Odin LloydAP
More and more media outlets have confirmed the jaw-dropping news from FOX 25 that police are investigating Aaron Hernandez in connection with a July 2012 double murder that occurred in Boston.

The latest detail from the Boston Globe will make jaws drop even farther. According to Maria Cramer of the Globe, an unnamed law-enforcement official has said there’s a possible link between the crimes.

“The motive [for killing Odin Lloyd] might have been that [Lloyd] knew [Hernandez] might have been involved” in the July 2012 homicides, the unnamed law-enforcement official told Cramer.

If true, this would help explain why Hernandez allegedly was upset with Lloyd for something he had said to others on Friday, July 14. As prosecutor Bill McCauley explained it in court on Wednesday, “The victim had spoken to a couple of people and the defendant told him he was upset about that because he had essentially troubles with those people.”

While McCauley didn’t elaborate, it doesn’t require a huge leap in logic to wonder whether Lloyd had given a friendly warning to the people with whom Hernandez had “troubles” regarding the way Hernandez had dealt with other people with whom he had “troubles” in the past. Though we’re speculating, the motive to kill Lloyd surely came from something that gave Hernandez serious concern. Concern doesn’t get much more serious than Hernandez fearing Lloyd would say something that would result in Hernandez being arrested or prosecuted for the July 2012 murders.

If, at is appears, at least one or both of the other two men who were in the car with Hernandez and Lloyd on the night of Lloyd’s death have cooperated with police, it’s possible that one or both of the other two men told the authorities about the events of July 16, 2012.

Regardless of how this all plays out, look for Hernandez’s lawyer to complain at today’s bail hearing about the apparent violation of the gag order that the presiding judge imposed on Wednesday. It’s hardly a coincidence that news of the other investigation has emerged the day after Hernandez was charged with killing Lloyd. To the extent the unsolved murders of July 2012 enhance the motive for killing Lloyd, the leak hurts Hernandez even more in the court of public opinion.

Please keep in mind that Hernandez has not been charged with any other crimes beyond the events surrounding the death of Odin Lloyd.

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:39 AM   #911
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Well they do have Jake Ballard, the TE who did a good job a couple years ago with the NYG.

I expect them to be on the phone with Andy Reid in the near future inquiring about Tony Moeaki.
Why would the Chiefs trade Moeaki? It's not like they're stacked at TE.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:40 AM   #912
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The patriots release Hernandez and tell the public they cannot be associated with a player that killed a person. So I guess killing a person by driving drunk(stallworth) is perfectly acceptable.

Entire organization is a joke.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:48 AM   #913
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i am not condoning anything Hernandez has done. but i have to ask the question. with the amount of money he had, if he was so pissed off at this guy or the drive by people, why not spend some of that money and have it done discreetly?

i'm not condoning murder, just bringing up that for someone with his means, there was a smarter way to do it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:50 AM   #914
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i am not condoning anything Hernandez has done. but i have to ask the question. with the amount of money he had, if he was so pissed off at this guy or the drive by people, why not spend some of that money and have it done discreetly?

i'm not condoning murder, just bringing up that for someone with his means, there was a smarter way to do it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:50 AM   #915
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What's creepy is that at 3:00AM, after he had been in the car for about an hour, and about 20 minutes before he was killed.......he texted his sister to say, "Do you know who I'm with?"....."NFL"....."just so you know."

It seems as if because of the escalating argument in the car, he was getting worried for his safety, and wanted to be sure that if something happened to him, that someone knew who he was with.
I read somewhere (and this may have just been reporter assumption) that the text came at the same time the rental car pulled into the industrial park. He had to know by this point he was in serious trouble. While it didnt save his life it is pretty quick thinking to send that 3 message series in light of what transpired immediately after.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:52 AM   #916
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i am not condoning anything Hernandez has done. but i have to ask the question. with the amount of money he had, if he was so pissed off at this guy or the drive by people, why not spend some of that money and have it done discreetly?

i'm not condoning murder, just bringing up that for someone with his means, there was a smarter way to do it.
It kinda seems like these other two dudes are his little hit squad. One of them was seen hiding a gun under a car in Florida after a shooting Hernandez was suspected of being involved in. I mean if you've already killed people with a couple guys and you need someone disappeared, why not do it the way you've done in the past without getting caught?
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Regardless of how this all plays out, look for Hernandez’s lawyer to complain at today’s bail hearing about the apparent violation of the gag order that the presiding judge imposed on Wednesday. It’s hardly a coincidence that news of the other investigation has emerged the day after Hernandez was charged with killing Lloyd. To the extent the unsolved murders of July 2012 enhance the motive for killing Lloyd, the leak hurts Hernandez even more in the court of public opinion.

Good luck with that. Different case entirely. The judge can't enforce a gag order about a completely separate investigation into the murder of two other people that he hasn't been tried for.....yet.
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I read somewhere (and this may have just been reporter assumption) that the text came at the same time the rental car pulled into the industrial park. He had to know by this point he was in serious trouble. While it didnt save his life it is pretty quick thinking to send that 3 message series in light of what transpired immediately after.
Yeah.....he's arguing with 3 guys, and then they pull into an old industrial park down a gravel road.

He had to know it was bad.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:57 AM   #919
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Andrew Siciliano is one of the most annoying humans alive. If I hear "the 11 mile drive" one more time...

I'll probably just roll my eyes and mutter to myself. But still...the fury lives on.

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Aaron Hernandez Killed Odin Lloyd to Cover Up Complicity In Two Other Murders? It looks like Hernandez was upset that Lloyd was breaking the first rule of Murder Club.
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Here is another thing I will be interested to get details on. The judge has issued a gag order on the case. The DA only outlined that evidence needed to arraign Hernandez.

Lloyd HAD to be sending more texts to his sister. He texted "remember who I left with". His sister didnt respond and he texted Hello! She responds with a sorry my phone died text. The then says NFL and remember that.

If her phone died she would not have known any texts came in The first place. His response was as if he was waiting for a response. So I think her phone died in the middle of a longer series of messages.

Now they suspect Hernandez was tied to double homicide? That dude was trying to get info out knowing he was probably going to die.
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I also wondered why the were dusting his Audi when it was leaked that a rental car was used. I thought it was in case it was used after the fact. I bet it was to be used for evidence in this other murder case
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Andrew Siciliano is one of the most annoying humans alive. If I hear "the 11 mile drive" one more time...

I'll probably just roll my eyes and mutter to myself. But still...the fury lives on.

You have it wrong. He is describing the length of his ears not the drive.
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This gets more interesting by the day.
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... The judge can't enforce a gag order about a completely separate investigation into the murder of two other people that he hasn't been tried for.....yet.
Sure he can. If he finds that the prosecution in the current case intentionally leaked any evidence concerning AH, he can impose sanctions. Such as suppression of the use of the other alleged transaction in the trial on the present charges.
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