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Old 05-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #1
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Default Flacco's agent calls Baltimore FO "dumb"

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"I've never in my life seen a dumber move. I guess people can say, 'Well, Joe was dumb, too.' It could have been [dumb], God forbid, if he got hurt. But $1 million to [Ravens owner] Steve Bisciotti six years from now? That's like 100 bucks for you or me today," he told USA Today.

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"I'm not apologetic for the fact this is really a three-year deal, there's no way they can afford $29 million a couple of years from now,'' Linta told USA Today. "I'm not apologetic. They chose to walk away.''
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Old 05-26-2013, 09:23 AM   #2
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Good for Flacco and bad for Ravens.
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:39 AM   #3
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No, it wasn't dumb. Flacco needed to prove his worth. Winning the Super Bowl did the trick...
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
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No, it wasn't dumb. Flacco needed to prove his worth. Winning the Super Bowl did the trick...
Truthfully, I think Flacco's "worth" is closer to what he would have gotten at the beginning of the season rather than the end. Think Trent Dilfer Superbowl.
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #5
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It was obviously dumb. They were never going to let Flacco walk to begin with. A fluke super bowl win and now they're stuck pretending he's worth twenty million a year from now to the end of time.
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It was obviously dumb. They were never going to let Flacco walk to begin with. A fluke super bowl win and now they're stuck pretending he's worth twenty million a year from now to the end of time.
Truthfully, it's not a long term deal, it's more like a three year deal, but the cash is packed in those 3 years. Nonetheless, they took a risk and lost. Happens to the player all the time, this time just went the other way.
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Truthfully, I think Flacco's "worth" is closer to what he would have gotten at the beginning of the season rather than the end. Think Trent Dilfer Superbowl.
Except Flacco actually carried his team with his offense as opposed to the defense carrying Dilfer. Bash on Flacco all you want. He ****ing dominated the playoffs statistically. Do you really think the Ravens beat us with a Dilfer type QB?
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Except Flacco actually carried his team with his offense as opposed to the defense carrying Dilfer. Bash on Flacco all you want. He ****ing dominated the playoffs statistically. Do you really think the Ravens beat us with a Dilfer type QB?
Hmmm I thought the refs carried that team in the playoffs
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It was obviously dumb. They were never going to let Flacco walk to begin with. A fluke super bowl win and now they're stuck pretending he's worth twenty million a year from now to the end of time.
he did his job, helped them win a SB and got paid for it. if they wanna pay him hella good for it then so be it.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:36 PM   #10
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I think they were dumb to pay him top money because he had one good offseason where he rode Anquan Boldin's coattails.
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What's the alternative? Good for Flacco,he had the leverage.
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Except Flacco actually carried his team with his offense as opposed to the defense carrying Dilfer. Bash on Flacco all you want. He ****ing dominated the playoffs statistically. Do you really think the Ravens beat us with a Dilfer type QB?
I'm not bashing on Flacco. He played well in the playoffs no doubt. But if I could choose any QB in the league there are probably 15 I would choose before flacco.

He's paid top 3 QB money and I don't think he's a top 3 QB.
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It was obviously dumb. They were never going to let Flacco walk to begin with. A fluke super bowl win and now they're stuck pretending he's worth twenty million a year from now to the end of time.
This! I think the ravens fo are dumb too. To sign an average QB top 3 money is stupid.
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Hmmm I thought the refs carried that team in the playoffs
I'm sure they were also well-paid. Let's hope it wasn't a three-year deal.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:58 AM   #15
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Truthfully, I think Flacco's "worth" is closer to what he would have gotten at the beginning of the season rather than the end. Think Trent Dilfer Superbowl.
i don't know about that. the guy wins a lot. he isn't Rodgers, Brees or Manning, but he gets the job done at a high rate of success.
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What good does it do for this agent to trash them now? Can't help anything at this point after the deal they got.
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Here's a hypothetical: if the ravens had inked Flacco to that 5 year extension that averaged $16m per year, would the ravens now be hoisting the lombardi?
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Flacco wins games, plays very well in the postseason, and is durable.

I'll take "mediocre" 25TD/10INT seasons if it means 12 wins and an almost guaranteed push in the playoffs.
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Flacco wins games, plays very well in the postseason, and is durable.

I'll take "mediocre" 25TD/10INT seasons if it means 12 wins and an almost guaranteed push in the playoffs.
You forgot about a great coach and defense. Basically, he is Big Ben when he won his super bowls (who isn't considered one of the best QB's in the league).
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:55 PM   #20
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I don't think it was a stupid move. How could the Ravens know the mediocre Flacco would have the playoffs of his career. Now I am sure he will go back to being mediocre. Sucks for Ravens fan.
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I don't think it was a stupid move. How could the Ravens know the mediocre Flacco would have the playoffs of his career.
It didn't matter whether they knew it or not. The one thing they most certainly knew was that they were never going to let Joe Flacco walk. To let him go would be to blow up the entire roster. The amount of times that a competitive team has let a QB in his prime leave via free agency is hovering somewhere around zero. So they tried to gamble that something would happen during the season that would somehow convince Flacco to take less money than they were offering in the summer. What were the chances of that?
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It didn't matter whether they knew it or not. The one thing they most certainly knew was that they were never going to let Joe Flacco walk. To let him go would be to blow up the entire roster. The amount of times that a competitive team has let a QB in his prime leave via free agency is hovering somewhere around zero. So they tried to gamble that something would happen during the season that would somehow convince Flacco to take less money than they were offering in the summer. What were the chances of that?
Actually, that is the way it was playing out. Flacco was playing horribly and the Ravens were on the verge of missing the Playoffs before Rapistberger got hurt and the Steelers started to falter. If they would have missed the playoffs Flacco would have been lucky to get $80 million.

Sure they got the SB, but now they have to pay the price for that success in Flacco's overpaying. I'm sure it is worth it afterall they got a SB championship but now is time for the pain.
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I think they were dumb to pay him top money because he had one good offseason where he rode Anquan Boldin's coattails.
This. The dumb move is giving him top money. He had one great, but fluky post-season where an inordinate amount of low percentage bombs paid off. He had a terrible regular season, and if the refs don't hand Baltimore a gift in the 2nd round they probably bring Flacco back on a year deal for another "prove-it" season. If he had won in the post-season with precision passing and sustaining drives, I would give more credence to the idea that he's turned some corner, but this was just an odd, low percentage streak that he got on. He'll be the same old streaky, frustrating Joe he's always been this season, I suspect.
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This. The dumb move is giving him top money. He had one great, but fluky post-season where an inordinate amount of low percentage bombs paid off. He had a terrible regular season, and if the refs don't hand Baltimore a gift in the 2nd round they probably bring Flacco back on a year deal for another "prove-it" season. If he had won in the post-season with precision passing and sustaining drives, I would give more credence to the idea that he's turned some corner, but this was just an odd, low percentage streak that he got on. He'll be the same old streaky, frustrating Joe he's always been this season, I suspect.
Flacco had all the leverage.
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I wonder what Flacco thinks of Moore if he calls his own FO dumb!
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