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Old 06-12-2013, 04:35 PM   #376
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This is the real PR here, FYI. Cloud computing isn't viable for single player games other than a small subset of simulation assistance. The time delay between data transfers can't work in real time game play. This is just reality. What Microsoft is actually selling as "the cloud" is what we PC gamers called "dedicated servers" for years upon years until Microsoft conned a bunch of people into paying for P2P multiplayer.


People are "beating down" Microsoft for trying to take away their right to own the physical products that they buy.
Dude discs are going away. Someone has to build a model to allow people to sell digitally distributed games, which MS appears to be trying. They're also letting developers do the same thing with optical media because differentiating rights based on how the media was delivered wouldn't really be fair either. Its a sticky issue but sticking to the "you have to stick a disc from the game store in" model is riding a dinosaur. The alternative is no used game market at all next time around.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:35 PM   #377
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As YouTube comments so eloquently put it --

Playstation: 4
Xbox: 1











Game over. Fatality. Flawless victory.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #378
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Lol what? those test where projected when the Xbox was announced... and even then they didn't know what they had under the hood. You read about the cloud gaming part and how it will improve the performance down the years while the PS4 will be stuck with what it puts out. Each generation of consoles is lasting more. This last one lasted almost 8 years. This next one will be more than likely pushing for 10. Sure...

Sony also has a cloud service...


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Old 06-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #379
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Cool copy/paste but DDR3 is still slower than GDDR5
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #380
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Won't have to pay if I only wanna watch Netflix... Unlike xbox
Who the hell buys a gaming console to view Netflix? I wave my laptop with HDMI conection to do that thank you! And since I play mostly multiplayer... I have to get xbox live or playstation+. So in my case what difference would it make? To cheap to dish out 60 bucks a year (I get for 30 bucks for the full year every summer in the xbox live deals)? Plus If I am paying premium, I will surely prefer the xbox live service over plus for numerous reasons.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:41 PM   #381
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Sony also has a cloud service...


Works diferently. Xbox cloud service is not just for us the users and storage.

one example:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...orza-5-details

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:42 PM   #382
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As YouTube comments so eloquently put it --

Playstation: 4
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Kaz Hirai approves.

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:43 PM   #383
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Cool copy/paste but DDR3 is still slower than GDDR5
Did copy paste it... and no. DDR3 does not operate faster than DDR5 in most cases.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:44 PM   #384
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So something funny on this whole xbox and Playstation thing.

XBOX release date: 11/30/2013
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Conso...words=xbox+one
PlayStation Release date: 12/30/2013
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-...=playstation+4

Why miss Christmas?
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:47 PM   #385
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So far the only one say the Xbox is better is a guy that said Tebow was a awesome QB and Puig isn't a power hitter. Sounds like Sony clearly has the better system.
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So far the only one say the Xbox is better is a guy that said Tebow was a awesome QB and Puig isn't a power hitter. Sounds like Sony clearly has the better system.
Never said Tebow was awesome but that he one day could be, was wrong about Puig though.
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ohhh did you guys watch the Sony conference where the PS4 was unable to handle a PS3 game in Assassins Creed 4? Lol! That was a fail!
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Never said Tebow was awesome but that he one day could be, was wrong about Puig though.
I really just wanted to bust your balls about Puig. carry on
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ohhh did you guys watch the Sony conference where the PS4 was unable to handle a PS3 game in Assassins Creed 4? Lol! That was a fail!

Xbox had the same issue...or did you miss that?


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Xbox had the same issue...or did you miss that?


not the same... Assassins actually crashed and they had to move to the next game. The xbox had a problem with BF4. A next gen title. Still was able to resume the showing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:07 PM   #391
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ohhh did you guys watch the Sony conference where the PS4 was unable to handle a PS3 game in Assassins Creed 4? Lol! That was a fail!
And Battlefield didn't load for a long time for the Xbox one demo and Crimson dragon had no sound.

You're not biased or anything.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:08 PM   #392
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No RRoD yet? Congrats MS!
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And Battlefield didn't load for a long time for the Xbox one demo and Crimson dragon had no sound.

You're not biased or anything.
it didn't crash. Battlefield didn't load for a long time. The Crimson dragon was a trailer that had nothing to do with running on the xbox one. Still, the xbox didn't crash... the ps4 did.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:37 PM   #395
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ohhh did you guys watch the Sony conference where the PS4 was unable to handle a PS3 game in Assassins Creed 4? Lol! That was a fail!
OMG software that is many months away from release is unstable! PS4 sucks!!!
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OMG software that is many months away from release is unstable! PS4 sucks!!!
Damn straight!!!
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:43 PM   #397
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it didn't crash. Battlefield didn't load for a long time. The Crimson dragon was a trailer that had nothing to do with running on the xbox one. Still, the xbox didn't crash... the ps4 did.
Are you serious? Thanks for the scoop! I could have walked into a financial nightmare. This is a total game changer. I mean the PS4 has no limitations on used games and is $100 cheaper, but if the PS4 demo for Assassin's Creed III crashed at E3 and XBox one's BF4 sort of didn't crash, that more than makes up for those limitations, by like a Million percent.

That settles it for me. I will never buy anything Sony ever again. You should let the Better Business Bureau and Consumer Reports know! Sony will bankrupt in a month!
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:45 PM   #398
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Did copy paste it... and no. DDR3 does not operate faster than DDR5 in most cases.
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The ‘G’ of the PS4's GGDR5 RAM stands for ‘graphics’, and this is a type of memory commonly used in dedicated PC graphics cards – although some do use DDR3 instead, usually cheaper models. In a shamelessly generalising sense, DDR3 is used for main system memory and GDDR5 for graphics-based tasks.

Like, y’know, gaming.

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Estimates put the PS4’s memory bandwidth at 176GB/second, compared to 68GB/second for the Xbox One.

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The Xbox One’s problems don’t end with memory. Although both consoles feature AMD-made GPUs, the PS4’s is significantly more powerful.

A tear-down from Wired magazine reveals that the Sony PS4’s GPU has 50 per cent more shader cores than the Xbox One – 1,152 against 768. And, further descending into the details, their TFLOP ratings, which measure how many operations a second they can perform, are far removed from each other.

The PS4 is rated at 1.8TFLOPs, the Xbox One just 1.23TFLOPs. However, this rating in particular has tended to bear little relation to actual results – the PS3 was widely reported as being a 1.8TFLOP system at its launch. And the PS3 is nowhere near as powerful as the PS4.

That said, the PS3 is spec-for-spec significantly more powerful than the Xbox 360 - and yet its games are not notably better-looking across the board. Is this just history repeating itself?

The game is completely different this time around, because Sony has sensibly abandoned the Cell system architecture used in the PS3. The Cell architecture of the PS3 was notoriously difficult to code for, compared to the more familiar PowerPC-based Xbox, thereby piddling away much of the console’s technological superiority.

This time, the new systems from Microsoft and Sony share the x86 architecture, as seen in Windows-powered laptops and desktops across the world.

There’s no getting around it – the Sony PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One. And as much as we may try to look for technical ways Microsoft may have slyly bridged the gap, they just aren’t there – yet.
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...k2q2RWI4rDQ.99
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they have a pretty lol ps4 mockup, prob worth clicking just for that
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Are you serious? Thanks for the scoop! I could have walked into a financial nightmare. This is a total game changer. I mean the PS4 has no limitations on used games and is $100 cheaper, but if the PS4 demo for Assassin's Creed III crashed at E3 and XBox one's BF4 sort of didn't crash, that more than makes up for those limitations, by like a Million percent.

That settles it for me. I will never buy anything Sony ever again. You should let the Better Business Bureau and Consumer Reports know! Sony will bankrupt in a month!
AG backing XBox was enough for me to jump on Sony. That guy is never right about ****.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:51 PM   #400
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AG backing XBox was enough for me to jump on Sony. That guy is never right about ****.
Are you talking about me? If so you need some remedial reading classes or something. I said I was probably switching away from Xbox this generation. I never backed the Xbox One.

So maybe you should buy the Xbox One. I'm always wrong after all...
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