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Old 05-18-2013, 08:09 AM   #276
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Whatever,you guys got nothing. This will likely turn out the same way it turned out in the late 90s with Clinton,except without the impeachment.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:31 AM   #277
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Whatever,you guys got nothing. This will likely turn out the same way it turned out in the late 90s with Clinton,except without the impeachment.
You're probably right. It's unfortunate how corrupt we know our government is and yet we do nothing about it.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:00 AM   #278
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You're probably right. It's unfortunate how corrupt we know our government is and yet we do nothing about it.
,figured you would miss the point.
What you got here with benghazi & IRS,with benghazi what you have is a rethuglican party that falsified info in order to attack the president. The IRS, is just that,the IRS. Couple people got overzealous with the paperwork, all of which Obama & the whitehouse had nothing to do with.
Rethugs are overreaching,and there's going to be a backlash,as there was back in the late 90s.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:11 AM   #279
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,figured you would miss the point.
What you got here with benghazi & IRS,with benghazi what you have is a rethuglican party that falsified info in order to attack the president. The IRS, is just that,the IRS. Couple people got overzealous with the paperwork, all of which Obama & the whitehouse had nothing to do with.
Rethugs are overreaching,and there's going to be a backlash,as there was back in the late 90s.
No, I'm afraid you missed the point, years ago.
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its good for repubs that dems want to keep saying there is 0 to see here. It makes it look like they are liars. Only hardcore dems buying it and the fight is over the indies and conservative dems. I have several dem friends livid about the AP News scandal and the IRS. Benghazzi I admit they don't see anything there. But to say this isn't damaging to the dems and a great lead up to 2014 for the repubs is denial.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #281
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Lois Lerner has to step down. Obama will have to find someone else to implement Obamacare at the IRS. The fact they are trying to blame the new guy at the IRS is a joke. Its this b**** who was Obamas connection. We need a special investigator period.

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Lois Lerner has to step down. Obama will have to find someone else to implement Obamacare at the IRS. The fact they are trying to blame the new guy at the IRS is a joke. Its this b**** who was Obamas connection. We need a special investigator period.

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Again,where is the connection to Obama?

There's not going to be a special investigation.
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Again,where is the connection to Obama?

There's not going to be a special investigation.
Its not so much connected to Obama as it is connected to democrats. Its connected because it was their enemies who were attacked. We don't know when Obama knew, if he stopped it when he found out, if he didn't care etc. We will only know with a special investigator because his govt will cover that up. A President when he wants to show he isn't afraid of getting to the bottom of it will name a special investigator, or ask for one, however that works i'm not really sure.

Peace how do we find out if a President is involved? just take his word for it?

But the fact his main chick leading Obamacare for the IRS was the one who is really guilty and Obama trying to serve up some guy who started the job in May makes me even more suspicious.
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Good Im glad Obama won't name one. By not nameing a special investigator he can never convince independants he wasn't involved. Really though obama not the target of repubs. The target is 2014 and 6 senate seats.
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Its not so much connected to Obama as it is connected to democrats. Its connected because it was their enemies who were attacked. We don't know when Obama knew, if he stopped it when he found out, if he didn't care etc. We will only know with a special investigator because his govt will cover that up. A President when he wants to show he isn't afraid of getting to the bottom of it will name a special investigator, or ask for one, however that works i'm not really sure.

Peace how do we find out if a President is involved? just take his word for it?

But the fact his main chick leading Obamacare for the IRS was the one who is really guilty and Obama trying to serve up some guy who started the job in May makes me even more suspicious.
A special investigator is not needed, appointing another ken Starr is just a means of spending the next 2_3 yrs distracting from what needs to be done ie immigration, & jobs.
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Good Im glad Obama won't name one. By not nameing a special investigator he can never convince independants he wasn't involved. Really though obama not the target of repubs. The target is 2014 and 6 senate seats.
That's the biggest flaw in your thinking,assuming everyone sees things the way you do.
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Oh the irony, you do realize this is Pat Robertson and his ilk wet dream of government intrusion into private lives. Welcome to the world of gay couples and women with unplanned pregnancy, just to name a few groups the conservatives want under the thumb of government agencies.
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Again,where is the connection to Obama?

There's not going to be a special investigation.
Not sure one is going to be needed. Hundreds of organizations have standing to take the IRS to federal court. There's also the FOIA angle (that they're going to have a much harder time burying now)

The IRS is going to get a thorough colon scope for the next few years. We'll just have to see what shakes out.
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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said earlier this week in a little-noticed interview that he knew "approximately" what the IRS inspector general would report about selective targeting of conservative groups, but that it wasn't appropriate to "accuse the IRS until you've had a nonpartisan, deep look."

The comments back up the White House argument that administration officials did not know enough about the investigation to condemn the IRS until the IG completed his work recently.
A Treasury Department official, Neal Wolin, was informed that the IG was looking into the situation this past summer, a revelation the media and GOP have seized on to suggest the White House may have covered up the scandal in the midst of a campaign.

Issa is chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

"I know approximately what's in it," Issa told Bloomberg Businessweek on Monday when asked if he knew what would be in the report. "I knew what was approximately in it when we made the allegations about a year ago. This is one of those things where it's been, in a sense, an open secret, but you don't accuse the IRS until you've had a nonpartisan, deep look. That's what the IG has done. That's why the IGs in fact exist within government, is to find this kind of waste and fraud and abuse of power."

Issa, according to an aide, asked the IG for an investigation last spring, after hearing allegations of selective targeting of conservative groups. The IG told him in a letter this summer that he was looking into it.

The groups singled-out were applying for nonprofit status as "social welfare" organizations, a loophole that allows political groups to conceal donors and accept unlimited contributions.
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This is the most over-reaching, unconstitutional, in-debt, corrupt Administration in the history of the U.S...
You forgot "since 2009".
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A special investigator is not needed, appointing another ken Starr is just a means of spending the next 2_3 yrs distracting from what needs to be done ie immigration, & jobs.
Unless we get one people will always wonder if Obama lied about it. Thats fine though get all the dems who are running on the record supporting the cover up. Have them all on top refusing to call for a special investigator.

Your theory it should be handled by Congress the real killer of immigration and jobs. By naming a special invesitgator you free up Congress to work on important issues they are capable of.

They all have too many ponies in the race to be trusted. The repubs will push too hard, the dems will hide and obstruct. Smart move is a non partisan respected investigator to do a real job on it. Get to the bottom of whose idea this way, when the white house found out, and what they did after that. Every person at the IRS who had something to do with it has to be fired and maybe even get prosectuted.
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That's the biggest flaw in your thinking,assuming everyone sees things the way you do.
You're right Peace Obamas 2nd term going great. Nothing to see here but a President in total control.

his approval rating is going to hit under 45% on this one. Hell he may get all the way to the 30s.
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Unless we get one people will always wonder if Obama lied about it. Thats fine though get all the dems who are running on the record supporting the cover up. Have them all on top refusing to call for a special investigator.

Your theory it should be handled by Congress the real killer of immigration and jobs. By naming a special invesitgator you free up Congress to work on important issues they are capable of.

They all have too many ponies in the race to be trusted. The repubs will push too hard, the dems will hide and obstruct. Smart move is a non partisan respected investigator to do a real job on it. Get to the bottom of whose idea this way, when the white house found out, and what they did after that. Every person at the IRS who had something to do with it has to be fired and maybe even get prosectuted.
No one but you morons will wonder that.
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You're right Peace Obamas 2nd term going great. Nothing to see here but a President in total control.

his approval rating is going to hit under 45% on this one. Hell he may get all the way to the 30s.
Between benghazi & the IRS which has been on the news the past two weeks,Obama's approval has gone up to 51% on Gallup & 47% at its lowest on fox news poll. Considering your post,it's apparently clear it's about politics not substance/truth.
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Unless we get one people will always wonder if Obama lied about it. Thats fine though get all the dems who are running on the record supporting the cover up. Have them all on top refusing to call for a special investigator.

Your theory it should be handled by Congress the real killer of immigration and jobs. By naming a special invesitgator you free up Congress to work on important issues they are capable of.

They all have too many ponies in the race to be trusted. The repubs will push too hard, the dems will hide and obstruct. Smart move is a non partisan respected investigator to do a real job on it. Get to the bottom of whose idea this way, when the white house found out, and what they did after that. Every person at the IRS who had something to do with it has to be fired and maybe even get prosectuted.
You didn't even read what Darryl issa stated about the IGs report. You know the part where he says its nonpartisan.
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A special investigator is not needed, appointing another ken Starr is just a means of spending the next 2_3 yrs distracting from what needs to be done ie immigration, & jobs.
so pray tell what has Obama done about creating jobs and reforming immigration law? I guess when asked that question his answer is the same that you give us about the IRS scandal -

"uh, we got nothing....."

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so pray tell what has Obama done about creating jobs and reforming immigration law? I guess when asked that question his answer is the same that you give us about the IRS scandal -

"uh, we got nothing....."
If you had been paying attention the past couple of years,that's been what he has been pushing. Of course rethugs filibustering/dragging their feet/obstructing hasn't helped.
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For **** sake, even Piers Morgan sees it. Wake up you libtards.


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If you had been paying attention the past couple of years,that's been what he has been pushing. Of course rethugs filibustering/dragging their feet/obstructing hasn't helped.
He had a Democrat controlled Congress his first two years in office.....
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