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Old 05-07-2013, 05:36 PM   #251
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It did seem that DRC was a good FA pickup, maybe Chris Harris didn't like it so much, since it meant he'll be looking at a "demotion" of sorts. But, Harris will get a payday on his second contract either way since the value of slot CB's has gone up and he's proven he can also play outside.

Yeah, if DRC plays great after the 2014 season he'll probably get a payday, but he's already getting $4 million this year isn't he?
not really a demotion, Porter was the starter for a few games, then Carter stepped in and played well for a few games, Harris has carved out a great niche for himself as a premier slot/nickel CB.
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:58 PM   #252
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not really a demotion, Porter was the starter for a few games, then Carter stepped in and played well for a few games, Harris has carved out a great niche for himself as a premier slot/nickel CB.
assuming he's relegated to nickle duties, it would be a demotion. He started 12 games last year and was stellar, especially down the stretch. I think Harris is the better CB between he and DRC, and predict Harris will lock down a starting spot. He matched up one-on-one against Boldin in the regular season and held him without a catch for the 1st time since 2005. Harris' fluidity in and out of breaks, his technique, and his ability to diagnose a play along with his decisive step in making that play are all top notch, imo. If Webster and Boldin can take to the coaching as well as Harris did, Denver could have a very good defensive backfield for a while.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:17 PM   #253
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On what made Kayvon Webster a third round pick:


Russell, "His physicality against the run game, we feel like we've got a safety playing corner. We really thought that he was one of the better corners in the draft. Just the combination of cover skills and physicality."

Elway, "Size is imperative in the corner position and we were able to find that in Kayvon."

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assuming he's relegated to nickle duties, it would be a demotion. He started 12 games last year and was stellar, especially down the stretch. I think Harris is the better CB between he and DRC, and predict Harris will lock down a starting spot. He matched up one-on-one against Boldin in the regular season and held him without a catch for the 1st time since 2005. Harris' fluidity in and out of breaks, his technique, and his ability to diagnose a play along with his decisive step in making that play are all top notch, imo. If Webster and Boldin can take to the coaching as well as Harris did, Denver could have a very good defensive backfield for a while.
Yeah, Balt didn't even bother with Harris side of the D in the playoff game, they saw JDR had Tony Carter as the LCB, Champ in the slot, and dropping Von into coverage instead of rushing Flacco. So they attacked the left side of the Bronco D with great success with Boldin and also Pitta and Ray Rice. Every one of Balt's big plays went to the Broncos' left side, runs, passes, everything. They kept picking at it and JDR never adjusted.

IIRC, the one big play Balt had in the reg season game, the Pitta TD YAC catch, Tony Carter was the LCB and whiffed the tackle along with Moore whiffing also. Balt saw that same combo in the playoff game, exploited it and JDR didn't adjust.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:12 PM   #255
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Quotes from Fan Forum. . .

On what made Kayvon Webster a third round pick:


Russell, "His physicality against the run game, we feel like we've got a safety playing corner. We really thought that he was one of the better corners in the draft. Just the combination of cover skills and physicality."

Elway, "Size is imperative in the corner position and we were able to find that in Kayvon."

We will have a full wrap of the comments on MileHighReport.
Gotta credit my buddy he nailed it
Said yesterday kayvon was one of the top tacklers in the draft
Russel just confirmed it
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:22 PM   #256
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Every one of Balt's big plays went to the Broncos' left side, runs, passes, everything. They kept picking at it and JDR never adjusted.
The sad part is, that the Broncos knew the Ravens tendency to throw the deep ball down the right sideline before the game, and even had a discussion about it with the game commentators.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:27 AM   #257
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We get the Ravens first and the Broncos have a good chance to either get the taste out, or open up and let flacco jizz inside their mouths again. Lets hope they didn't like how Flaccos cock tasted and this time they don't play like a bunch of pussies.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:13 AM   #258
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2014 is going to be a big deal for us in terms of our UFA/RFAs.

Defense:
Chris Harris
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Yeah, they have seen this coming foir two years now I hope they have a plan. I guess Decker can go, Walton can go, Colquitt can go, Phillips can Go, DRC, Carter, Adams Ayers can all go, Beals and Unrein can go. hmmmm, not that hard afterall.

Keep Clady, Woodyard, Beadles, Holliday, Woodyard and Harris
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Disagree. You have to keep Woodyard.
I did keep Woodyard.
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The sad part is, that the Broncos knew the Ravens tendency to throw the deep ball down the right sideline before the game, and even had a discussion about it with the game commentators.
Yeah you can gameplan and tell the kid what to do but at the end of the day he was backpeddling on a deep ball with 40 seconds to go.
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Yeah, they have seen this coming foir two years now I hope they have a plan. I guess Decker can go, Walton can go, Colquitt can go, Phillips can Go, DRC, Carter, Adams Ayers can all go, Beals and Unrein can go. hmmmm, not that hard afterall.

Keep Clady, Woodyard, Beadles, Holliday, Woodyard and Harris
The Broncos have cap room for every single one of them, if they want...don't worry about it. I have an excel spreadsheet with all the player salaries, and expected salaries from internal FA's...Broncos looking good if they cut McGahee.

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Kayvon attributes his physical play to being an LB in High School (also played WR), never played CB until getting on the USF campus. Was recruited out of HS by Spurrier at South Carolina to play CB.

Says he looks forward to learning the position from Bailey. I'm hoping he can develop quickly like Chris Harris. We'll see...he's got a pretty steep learning curve. Played a lot of gunner on special teams.
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Kayvon attributes his physical play to being an LB in High School (also played WR), never played CB until getting on the USF campus. Was recruited out of HS by Spurrier at South Carolina to play CB.

Says he looks forward to learning the position from Bailey. I'm hoping he can develop quickly like Chris Harris. We'll see...he's got a pretty steep learning curve. Played a lot of gunner on special teams.
cover like you're water in the sea, hit like a mack truck and tackle like he stole something from you.
if he can do that he will be a fine CB for us
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Kayvon attributes his physical play to being an LB in High School (also played WR), never played CB until getting on the USF campus. Was recruited out of HS by Spurrier at South Carolina to play CB.

Says he looks forward to learning the position from Bailey. I'm hoping he can develop quickly like Chris Harris. We'll see...he's got a pretty steep learning curve. Played a lot of gunner on special teams.
I hope. I remember another CB we drafted,delta O'Neal,who didn't switch to CB til college,turned out to be a bust for Denver.
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I hope. I remember another CB we drafted,delta O'Neal,who didn't switch to CB til college,turned out to be a bust for Denver.
Do you know how many players get switched to CB in college?
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I hope. I remember another CB we drafted,delta O'Neal,who didn't switch to CB til college,turned out to be a bust for Denver.
a two time pro bowl player who had 34 career INT's and 2 seasons in which he had 9+ INT's isn't a bust.
he didn't become our dominant CB like we had hoped but he damn sure wasn't a bust.
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a two time pro bowl player who had 34 career INT's and 2 seasons in which he had 9+ INT's isn't a bust.
he didn't become our dominant CB like we had hoped but he damn sure wasn't a bust.
He got burnt on a regular basis with us here in Denver. He got lucky cause QBs loved throwing his way. He had 15 ints in his 4 yrs with us,5 of which came in one game against KC.
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Deltha wasn't a bust. He was an opportunistic corner who created his share of big plays (3 INT's off Tom Brady in 03' if I recall correctly) but also gave up a lot of plays based off his inconsistency as well. He was very similar to Darien Gordon when he was here.
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Deltha wasn't a bust. He was an opportunistic corner who created his share of big plays (3 INT's off Tom Brady in 03' if I recall correctly) but also gave up a lot of plays based off his inconsistency as well. He was very similar to Darien Gordon when he was here.
Detha was not a bust, he played 10 years or so in the NFL, I believe 9 of those years he was a starter.
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I hope. I remember another CB we drafted,delta O'Neal,who didn't switch to CB til college,turned out to be a bust for Denver.
Joe Haden came to Florida as a QB from HS but Tebow was there... then Haden switched to WR but Harvin was there...then he finally switched to CB.
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He got burnt on a regular basis with us here in Denver. He got lucky cause QBs loved throwing his way. He had 15 ints in his 4 yrs with us,5 of which came in one game against KC.
a two time pro bowler is not a bust.
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He got burnt on a regular basis with us here in Denver. He got lucky cause QBs loved throwing his way. He had 15 ints in his 4 yrs with us,5 of which came in one game against KC.
Delta's career is completely irrelevant to Webster. Not sure why you would want to equate the two.
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cover like you're water in the sea, hit like a mack truck and tackle like he stole something from you.
if he can do that he will be a fine CB for us
Sounds simple enough. He's gonna have to show real ability right out the gate with this team, or he'll drop down the depth chart like a rock. We'll find out soon.
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Deltha was a good corner... and I think had we had Champ, we should have kept him. He was a good #2.
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Delta's career is completely irrelevant to Webster. Not sure why you would want to equate the two.
Not necessarily equating the two, I just stated originally that I hope he does well for us,cause we had another CB that didn't.
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