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Old 04-23-2013, 05:59 PM   #51
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The Osweiler thing was just too predictable. It's sad to know that Brian Xanders was advocating for Lavonte David. Woodyard definitely stepped his game up, but it would have been nice to have used a second rounder on a guy who is actually going to do something for the team. If the Broncos really thought that Osweiler was the BPA with that pick, I am calling BS.

I can understand the insurance because of the uncertain nature of Manning's recovery, but good lord. I have high hopes for Hillman, but mortgaging what you got in a trade down was really piss poor value management of resources in the draft. When you have that many picks, you need to get more than ONE GUY (Wolfe) who starts a game as a rookie. That is SIMPLY unacceptable.
I recall many on here saying that the Manning signing was a concern because we needed to find our QBOTF......

now keep in mind had Osweiler not left after his junior year, would he not be considered quite possibly the best QB in this year's draft?

So I look at it as Elway drafted a QB who might have been a top 10 pick THIS year a year earlier using a 2nd round pick.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:27 AM   #52
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Nothing wrong with Elway being a draft nerd. He clearly knows his **** when it comes to the draft.
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:59 AM   #53
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now keep in mind had Osweiler not left after his junior year, would he not be considered quite possibly the best QB in this year's draft?
That would be entirely dependent on the what might've happened his senior season. It's certainly possible, but it's far from a forgone conclusion.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:00 AM   #54
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I recall many on here saying that the Manning signing was a concern because we needed to find our QBOTF......

now keep in mind had Osweiler not left after his junior year, would he not be considered quite possibly the best QB in this year's draft?

So I look at it as Elway drafted a QB who might have been a top 10 pick THIS year a year earlier using a 2nd round pick.
this is why i don't see the issue people have with it.
we have a QB who short of completely bombing his last season would have been a likely top 10 pick in this draft and maybe even the #1 with the lack of quality at QB.
we now do not have to spend a draft pick on a QB unless we want to and the value is insane. that's the luxury of making the move last year. plus the class was better in terms of talent.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:08 AM   #55
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this is why i don't see the issue people have with it.
we have a QB who short of completely bombing his last season would have been a likely top 10 pick in this draft and maybe even the #1 with the lack of quality at QB.
we now do not have to spend a draft pick on a QB unless we want to and the value is insane. that's the luxury of making the move last year. plus the class was better in terms of talent.
The reason I was mad with pick at first was we are in win now mode so I thought bolstering another position on D would be better for Manning era. Now if OS turns out good the future is bright and Elways a genius. He made it very clear he will ALWAYS look at QB's every year so no need to be shocked if we draft one.

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Old 04-24-2013, 05:00 PM   #56
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this is why i don't see the issue people have with it.
we have a QB who short of completely bombing his last season would have been a likely top 10 pick in this draft and maybe even the #1 with the lack of quality at QB.
You seriously believe Osweiler would be the first overall pick this year as long as he simply didn't bomb his senior season? Wow...
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:41 PM   #57
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You seriously believe Osweiler would be the first overall pick this year as long as he simply didn't bomb his senior season? Wow...
His junior year he completed 63% of his passes, over 4000 yards and 26 touchdowns. His QB rating was 140.5. He's 6'7, was a team captain, and has great arm strength. If he plays his senior season and improves at all, I absolutely think he'd be the first pick in the draft.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:43 PM   #58
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I think we trade back.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:57 PM   #59
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This draft is hot garbage at the top
While you can't say he would of been a top pick, in this particular class it really is not that farfetched to suggest had he had a good senior year he would of been the top qb prospect in the draft

Regardless we would of needed to draft a qb at some time, and that pick would of been at the expense of helping out Manning

It was going to have to happen sooner or later
It was no secret that people knew this time last year this qb class would be weak

I am sure Elway knew that as well as knew it might be a good idea to get the a plan B in case Manning really was done
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:18 PM   #60
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With so many teams wanting to trade down it may not work that easily this yr.

i figure maybe ATL makes a big move up to grab a top CB. Maybe the niners make a move to grab Vaccarro or Cyprien before some other team can. maybe the Niners trade a pick this yr for a pick next yr also because they won't have enough open roster positions for all those picks.

Then maybe Bills, Jets, would want to move back into the bottom of the first looking for a QB, or maybe the Eagles also? in any event only a handfull. If other teams also want to move down it could make it tough to do so.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:36 PM   #61
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Haven't read any of you alls expert opines, but pretty sure Elway done OK last year in the draft and the draft this year hasn't happened yet........so how can he be a draft nerd when the draft hasn't happened yet? It's a liberal 4/20 kind thing obviously.... 'ear...F'ing democrats.
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You seriously believe Osweiler would be the first overall pick this year as long as he simply didn't bomb his senior season? Wow...
i've been saying i believe that since we drafted him last year. we greatly benefited from him declaring a year too early. he has franchise QB potential and if he had just improved slightly from his last season in college he would have gone #1 overall due to the other QB's stinking it up and not being full on pro-style.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:47 PM   #63
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The reason I was mad with pick at first was we are in win now mode so I thought bolstering another position on D would be better for Manning era. Now if OS turns out good the future is bright and Elways a genius. He made it very clear he will ALWAYS look at QB's every year so no need to be shocked if we draft one.
personally i would draft Mike Glennon and even trade up for him if he's there in the 3rd. i'm greedy so i want us to have a **** load of QB depth and have teams offering up picks for them all the time.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:50 PM   #64
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His junior year he completed 63% of his passes, over 4000 yards and 26 touchdowns. His QB rating was 140.5. He's 6'7, was a team captain, and has great arm strength. If he plays his senior season and improves at all, I absolutely think he'd be the first pick in the draft.
You know looking at KC it is not hard to think they might select Oz if he would have stayed in school. Spending the first overall pick on Oz might be better than using a 2nd and more on Alex Smith.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:50 AM   #65
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If we do go DB (corner or safety) in the 1st, and I sense it is a possibility, then we will end up reaching for a pass rush specialist in the 2nd, probably far too early for his real value.

The Broncos have to replace the production of Dumervile. They have to, in some form. Fox, Del Rio and Elway are no fools. They know Ayers isn't the answer just as asureadly as they know with an absolute certainty that if they don't get pressure from the DE position, they might as well be playing Joe Mays in Von Millers spot because his effectiveness will vanish.
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