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Old 04-19-2013, 07:07 AM   #1
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So we need to ban guns to "save just one life," but we can't intelligently restrict immigration from violent Islamist ****holes to do the same?


Russia's Chechnya, Caucasus: A breeding ground for terror

From Boston to Chechnya to Moscow: the chain of terror that unites US and Russia

The United States may have become a target for Chechen terrorists in the wake of the harrowing Beslan school hostage crisis nearly 10 years ago, an expert explained today.

Russia School Siege Ends in Carnage
Hundreds Die As Troops Battle Hostage Takers





Behind the Moscow Theater Siege

The Moscow theatre hostage drama is a dramatic reminder that Chechen separatists are capable of desperate cruelty when they're up against a wall. Some 700 hostages remain captive in a large theater complex Friday, cowering for a third day under the guns of 30 or 40 Chechens — half of them reportedly women in headscarves; all of them reportedly wearing the explosive belts of the suicide bomber — who have threatening to blow the building unless Russian forces withdraw from Chechnya.

Russia Terrorism Timeline: Airport Bombing, Theater Standoff, Beslan Siege

1999

March – An explosion at the market in Vladikavkaz kills 64 people.
September – A truck bomb explodes near apartment blocks in Buinaksk, Dagestan, killing 61 people. Explosions in an apartment block in Moscow kill 94 people. Another set of Moscow apartment blocks are targeted as explosions kill 121, leaving 9 wounded.

2003

May – Explosions near the local branch of the FSB in the village of Znamenskoye, Chechnya kill 52 people and leave 199 wounded.
August – An explosion in the military hospital in Mozdok (Northern Ossettia) kills 50 and wounds 82.
December – A suicide bomber on a train travelling from Kislovodsk to Mineralniye Vody kills 47 people and wounds 180.

2004

February – Explosions on a metro train in Moscow. 40 people killed and 134 wounded.
June – Chechen militants attack the government buildings in Ingushetia. 98 people were killed, among them the acting interior minister of Ingushetia, Abukar Kostoyev.
August – Two airliners crash within minutes of each other after taking off from the same airport, killing a total of 90 people. Officials say explosive traces were found in the wreckage. President Vladimir Putin calls the crashes terrorist acts.
September – Terrorists capture a school in Beslan, Northern Ossettia. According to official estimates, 330 people were killed.

2009

November – The “Nevsky express” explosion. A bomb explodes on an express train between Moscow and St. Petersburg leaving 27 people dead and more than 100 wounded.

2010

March — Two blasts blamed on female suicide bombers ripped through packed Moscow trains during morning rush hour, killing at least 39 people, wounding dozens more and filling two stations with dense smoke as panicked commuters scrambled to escape.

2011

A deadly explosion on Jan. 24 at Domodedovo Airport, the busiest of Moscow’s three commercial airports, has killed at least 31.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:03 AM   #2
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:11 AM   #3
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"Garbage liberal immigration law"? Seeing how this is the first such incident since 9/11 I'd suggest that the policies have worked rather well. But that's just the perspective of someone who's rational. Hysterical, lunatic rantings are to be expected from you, drama llama.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #4
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Typically, libs want to go after other Americans to ban things to "save just one life" but they're not willing to have more sensible immigration policy to save far more than just one.

Chechnya has been a longtime Islamist hotbed of extreme violent terrorism. You seem to think it doesn't matter because their mass slaughter wasn't done HERE before. Intelligent.
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"Garbage liberal immigration law"? Seeing how this is the first such incident since 9/11 I'd suggest that the policies have worked rather well. But that's just the perspective of someone who's rational. Hysterical, lunatic rantings are to be expected from you, drama llama.
I think the definition of childishly stupid applies here.

Ignore the history of violence people from a certain area of a certain faith have against people they dislike and let them over here because they didn't blow up OUR movie theater, slaughter over 330 people in OUR school, bomb OUR commercial airplanes, suicide bomb OUR subways or airports, and bomb OUR apartment buildings.

This is coming from an adult??!!!!
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:09 AM   #6
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"Garbage liberal immigration law"? Seeing how this is the first such incident since 9/11 I'd suggest that the policies have worked rather well. But that's just the perspective of someone who's rational. Hysterical, lunatic rantings are to be expected from you, drama llama.
And yet given that AR-15 with 30 round magazines are rarely use in killing sprees you still argue we need tougher laws and bans of them.....

I think both sides should realize it's not the instrument being used that's dangerous.....it's the whack job using it that is. Limiting the number of visas to people who come from terrorist breeding grounds would make common sense, no?
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I think the definition of childishly stupid applies here.

Ignore the history of violence people from a certain area of a certain faith have against people they dislike and let them over here because they didn't blow up OUR movie theater, slaughter over 330 people in OUR school, bomb OUR commercial airplanes, suicide bomb OUR subways or airports, and bomb OUR apartment buildings.

This is coming from an adult??!!!!
Well he's a liberal who claims to be all about fairness....he truly thinks that because he didn't kill and eat the lion, the lion wouldn't kill and eat him.
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The problem with terrorism in Chechnya is that both the Chechens and the Russian army are engaging in it there.
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While everyone has been up in arms about illegal immigrants I've been espousing the need to do something about legal immigrants. But I've been doing this since the 80's so I fail to see how this is a "liberal immigration" issue. Clinton and Boxer worked to implement less immigrants and who could immigrate but immigration increased in the 2000's (yes even after 9/11) and was at it's peak during Bush's administration and has been less since 2008. Once again your argument holds little merit.
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So full of hate.
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The problem with terrorism in Chechnya is that both the Chechens and the Russian army are engaging in it there.
That may be true....but it doesn't explain why we allow people from such areas where terror is known to breed to come to our country.
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That may be true....but it doesn't explain why we allow people from such areas where terror is known to breed to come to our country.
Lol. . .
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So full of hate.
Yup. He's very excited about the possibility of being able to exploit this tragedy for political/ideological/partisan reasons. This before understanding for sure what really happened and why. But then this guy has clearly demonstrated on this forum that he's a sociopath and a lunatic so we shouldn't be surprised. This is the same guy that spent the day yesterday bashing the feds for botching the operation to find the perps. Now he's moved on to bashing "liberal immigration policies".
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Yup. He's very excited about the possibility of being able to exploit this tragedy for political/ideological/partisan reasons. This before understanding for sure what really happened and why. But then this guy has clearly demonstrated on this forum that he's a sociopath and a lunatic so we shouldn't be surprised. This is the same guy that spent the day yesterday bashing the feds for botching the operation to find the perps. Now he's moved on to bashing "liberal immigration policies".
Yeah. One of the most sick-minded people I have ever seen online. Can't even begin to put it into words. No life or friends obviously.
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While everyone has been up in arms about illegal immigrants I've been espousing the need to do something about legal immigrants. But I've been doing this since the 80's so I fail to see how this is a "liberal immigration" issue. Clinton and Boxer worked to implement less immigrants and who could immigrate but immigration increased in the 2000's (yes even after 9/11) and was at it's peak during Bush's administration and has been less since 2008. Once again your argument holds little merit.
Well one problem is whenever most people suggest we secure our borders, they're automatically labelled as racists or xenophobes by those who are liberals. As for the "peaked during the Bush administration".....congress is the one who makes laws.....and Democrats have been in control of congress for how many years?

It's easier to answer the question by how many years have the Republicans controlled both houses since 1950...the answer...only four...and two of those four the majority in the Senate was 51-49, a razor thin and actually Democrat controlled since at least four Republican senators were liberal in voting.

President Lyndon Johnson (D) signed into law the bill authored by Ted Kennedy (D) that changed our immigration law to the cluster**** it is today as it basically opened up the flood gates. Anyone who speaks out against the current cluster**** is automatically labelled a racist xenophobic a-hole.
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Lol. . .
I'm sorry you find humor in that...I just think we shouldn't allow people who are from regions of the world where known terrorism thrives to come here and set up residence...just one man's opinion.

But the fact remains is the 9/11 clowns and the alleged Boston Marathon bombers came here from areas where we know terrorists have active camps and support of the majority of the areas citizens.....feel free to dispute that fact.

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So full of hate.

Yes, these Muslims evidently are full of hate.....

"We'll never have peace as long as they hate us more than they love their children" - Golda Meir
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I'm sorry you find humor in that...I just think we shouldn't allow people who are from regions of the world where known terrorism thrives to come here and sent up residence...just one man's opinion.

But the fact remains is the 9/11 clowns and the alleged Boston Marathon bombers came here from areas where we know terrorists have active camps and support of the majority of the areas citizens.....feel free to dispute that fact.
We also allow a certain number of immigrants and refugees from nations that are torn by civil war and poverty into America each year. Their happens to be a lot of "terrorism" and "suspect behavior" in those countries too.

So basically you just don't want Islamic people in America. Gotcha.
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Yes, these Muslims evidently are full of hate.....

"We'll never have peace as long as they hate us more than they love their children" - Golda Meir
And xenophobic nationalists such as yourself and nyuk nyuk pose just as much of a threat to your peers and American citizens as the average, run of the mill Islamic person who is in America.
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The problem with terrorism in Chechnya is that both the Chechens and the Russian army are engaging in it there.
Really? The Russian army are blowing up movie theaters, trains, planes, apartment buildings, subways, and schools full of children?

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And xenophobic nationalists such as yourself and nyuk nyuk pose just as much of a threat to your peers and American citizens as the average, run of the mill Islamic person who is in America.
Standards = xenophobia. Yes, mister lib. Move along and watch the next episode of Sesame Street that starts in 5 minutes.

So America's founders and government posed a "threat" all the while we had very selective immigration law in this country until the 1960s.

You sound more than a tad paranoid.
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We also allow a certain number of immigrants and refugees from nations that are torn by civil war and poverty into America each year. Their happens to be a lot of "terrorism" and "suspect behavior" in those countries too.

So basically you just don't want Islamic people in America. Gotcha.
Well let's see.....9/11 carried out by Islamic terrorists who were here on visas.....Boston Marathon bombings allegedly carried out by Islamic sympathizers/apologists (much like yourself)....over 3,000 Americans killed but it's not a problem letting them in our nation...glad to see you're ok with that kind of collateral damage for the sake of maybe some clown will actually be a good citizen....gotcha

you do realize that if we didn't allow people like this into our nation we probably don't have 9/11 which led to the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.....but feel free to dispute that too.
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Yes, these Muslims evidently are full of hate.....

"We'll never have peace as long as they hate us more than they love their children" - Golda Meir
Chechen Muslim culture has specifically become extremely rotted and violent. I've rooted off and on for years for Putin to nuke the joint. These people behave like animals. Their bloodthirst is only rivaled by Osama bin Laden himself.
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Well let's see.....9/11 carried out by Islamic terrorists who were here on visas.....Boston Marathon bombings allegedly carried out by Islamic sympathizers/apologists (much like yourself)....over 3,000 Americans killed but it's not a problem letting them in our nation...glad to see you're ok with that kind of collateral damage for the sake of maybe some clown will actually be a good citizen....gotcha

you do realize that if we didn't allow people like this into our nation we probably don't have 9/11 which led to the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.....but feel free to dispute that too.
But you can't be xenophobic! You have to be nice and smile and roll out the red carpet! That's what we're here for, silly!

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And xenophobic nationalists such as yourself and nyuk nyuk pose just as much of a threat to your peers and American citizens as the average, run of the mill Islamic person who is in America.
How so? Please explain.......

I've not harmed one person because of their color of skin, their place of origin or their sexuality or whatever reason you liberals want to claim I have a phobia of......however 3,000+ people murdered by Islamic people.

so to summarize -

Nutjob gun owner who is a racist xenophobe according to you has killed and harmed nobody, and Islamic sympathizers/followers/apologists (very much like your self) have killed or harmed over 3000.....and you say I'm the problem...
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