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Old 03-20-2013, 11:15 PM   #26
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Pass - Urlacher has been finished for 2 years - he adds nothing. I'd rather see a n out of place Trevathan in the middle than Urlacher
Trevathan running around really fast but doesn't know where to go - Urlacher knows where to go but can't get there. Nobody really all that impressive in the draft. Maybe we should go ala Buddy Ryan 46 defense, hahahaha.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:42 PM   #27
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We're moving forward with Nate Irving if Fox's words in Phoenix are any indication of why we've not gone after an MLB in FA. Basic point made is that Irving was just a victim of circumstance and it's his time to shine.
And how do you feel if those circumstances are that Irving couldn't beat out Mays for the 2012 season. Not sure what the status of Brooking is for the 2013 season but I would keep him around if you are not looking outside for help.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:48 PM   #28
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A washed-up geriatric Urlacher would be far better than any of the jokers we've trotted out at MLB over the past 6 years.
I know, right?

I don't understand why people are so against this idea.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:11 AM   #29
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I know, right?

I don't understand why people are so against this idea.
Because he can't play at a high level anymore. The end result would be no different. At least by playing the younger guys you get to see if they've got it. By playing an old washed up vet, you get the same result (sucky play) but you don't find out about one of your younger players. Sometimes all it takes is getting the consistent reps during games. Woodyard seemed to do pretty well when he got those game reps. Maybe Irving can improve with more play but I don't think he'll be a great one. I don't know, there's just no good answer right now at MLB for us. The players we got, nobody is good enough right now and you hope somebody can step up and improve quite a bit. The draft is weak but sometimes you can find a sleeper. Then you have the old wahsed up dudes that used to be good but father time has caught up to them.

We shall see. I forecast many complaints on this forum this coming season regarding the MLB position.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:43 AM   #30
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i honestly think i'd rather have Brooking or Mays. Urlacher's legs are about to fall off, and truthfully he at this point in his career is not an upgrade to what we have.
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I think the 2 million the Bears offered is more than anyone else will (or should) give him.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:14 AM   #32
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We should go get Lendale White because I played with him in the same conference in HS.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:20 AM   #33
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Urlacher might not be enough better to pay the 3-4 million he wants. Also he is an injury risk and we would have to garauntee it. I say let MLB be patchwork and hope Woodyard and Miller can make up for it, and/or grab a backer in the draft and hope he can play some.

I still think what our linebackers need, especially woodyard, is a bigger DT who eats up a lot of blockers. Just someone really physical that puts a lot of pressure on the center and the guards. I think it would free up Woodyard some to have some help like that. Basically he played behind Doom and a rotation on DT no one is really afraid of. Ayers I think for the most part does help Miller by playing somewhat phsycial. Its just hes not all that athletic I guess? Maybe he blows up this yr.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:21 AM   #34
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Were trying to get bigger in the backfield. We already have Hillman.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:02 AM   #35
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I don't know if I agree with the "Injury Risk" tag that keeps getting pinned on Urlacher. Only 3 times during his whole career has he not played all 16 games. Last year it was only 12 but the 2 before that he played all 16. 2009 was when he hurt his wrist during the first game of the season. All in all I am sure he is above the league average in games played vs injured.

If we get to TC and realize that we have not gotten any better at MLB and he is available then ya, pick him up. Otherwise I think we need to finally address that position with a long term solution.
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If it was on a two year deal with only the first year guaranteed at 3mill a year or so I would be supportive.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #37
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Chalk me up in the "meh" category.

Urlacher's game was built mostly on speed. Wasn't he a safety in college?

When a speed-guy loses his speed.......well, not a whole lot of reason to sign him.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:21 AM   #38
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Chalk me up in the "meh" category.

Urlacher's game was built mostly on speed. Wasn't he a safety in college?

When a speed-guy loses his speed.......well, not a whole lot of reason to sign him.
Biggest reason I want him is to QB the defense. We have a serious leadership vacuum on D. Ever since Dawk left. Like I said before, I want a cagey vet at either MLB or FS. This would fill the bill.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:28 AM   #39
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2 mil and he walked away?

What does this joker think he is worth?
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I want nothing to do with that low IQ moral degenerate.
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Chalk me up in the "meh" category.

Urlacher's game was built mostly on speed. Wasn't he a safety in college?

When a speed-guy loses his speed.......well, not a whole lot of reason to sign him.
He was the rare athlete whose game was build on both speed and strength. He returned punts at UNM while weighing 245 pounds and caught 7 touchdowns as a TE out of 9 catches, but he also put up 225 27 times. He played the safety/LB position in a 3-3-5 in college.

Problem with 2013 Urlacher is he's the type of athlete that's used to having the ability to explode laterally and make plays in space that very few men his size are capable of. If you watch tape on him lately,. his mind is telling him what to do, but his body isn't able to execute what he wants to do, or he's a step or two late. It sort of reminds me of Roy Jones Jr. at the end of his career.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:46 AM   #42
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It was stupid for him to have walked away from that offer. He could have retired with his team. IMO it was a fair offer considering his declining health/production. Just another good athlete who wont accept that he's about done.
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I've watched some clips of him from last year and boy has he lost that speed. He looks like he's running in slow motions. I would bet that there are at least 20 DT's weighing over 300 lbs in the league that could light him up in a 40 right now.
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I've watched some clips of him from last year and boy has he lost that speed. He looks like he's running in slow motions. I would bet that there are at least 20 DT's weighing over 300 lbs in the league that could light him up in a 40 right now.
He always was below average at taking pursuit angles. At least by NFL linebacker standards. The thing is he was 250 pounds and ran in the 4.5 range. It wasn't Mike Mammola timed speed with no game speed, but Urlacher was timed fast and game fast. Freakishly so. Now he's not freakishly fast, and he's still below average at taking pursuit angles. Compare Urlacher to Ray Lewis. Lewis was still able to play at a high level, because of how well he uses angles to make plays. Lewis is like Bernard Hopkins, still effective in certain situations and in spots. Urlacher is like Roy Jones, once the physical skillset declines, he can't compensate.
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Check this out.

Urlacher ranked in the top ten for linebackers in run stopping.

He's super slow now, that's pretty obvious, but he is a smart player with some leadership qualities. Intelligence is more important than athleticism when it comes to the position.
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I want nothing to do with that low IQ moral degenerate.
How does one become a moral degenerate exactly
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:02 AM   #47
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He is up there in the Travis Henry, DRC, catagory of kids with different mothers.

He was hanging with Paris Hilton in Vegas one year while his wife was trying to get a hold of him for some family event. He was recently seeing Jenny McCarthy and a couple other broads.
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According to ESPN.com, analyst John Clayton said that linebacker Brian Urlacher could end up in the AFC West with the Oakland Raiders or Denver Broncos, with the San Diego Chargers being a wild card option.

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/art...r-afc-west.htm
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:41 PM   #49
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According to ESPN.com, analyst John Clayton said that linebacker Brian Urlacher could end up in the AFC West with the Oakland Raiders or Denver Broncos, with the San Diego Chargers being a wild card option.

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/art...r-afc-west.htm
"young star Nate Irving"

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Old 03-26-2013, 09:50 PM   #50
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If Nate Irving couldn't manage to start a single game last year (of all years), what makes anyone think he'll ever be able to play as a starter?

What do we have in Nate Irving? 12 Tackles in two years. That's what we have.
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