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Old 03-22-2013, 08:27 AM   #26
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Conservative males are often repressed homosexuals, which is about as self-loathing as one can get.
Funny how gay-baiting is OK if you're a liberal. I'm always amused by that one.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:16 AM   #27
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Feminine - Like Wog and other rabid liberals on this forum.

Masculine - Unlike Wog and other rabid liberals on this forum.
I bet it took hours for you to come up with such wit.

Try again.

Define "feminine" and "masculine", please.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:50 AM   #28
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Feminine - Like Wog and other rabid liberals on this forum.

Masculine - Unlike Wog and other rabid liberals on this forum.

So you're 'masculine.' I'm sure we're all shocked by that revelation.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:51 AM   #29
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So you're 'masculine.' I'm sure we're all shocked by that revelation.
Dude, she is hard. Don't you see the gun on a Manning jersey? One tough hombre.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:19 AM   #30
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:28 AM   #31
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Does that commercial piss you off or is it just me that thinks this is part of an overall plan to feminize men?
I'm surprised at this coming from you. Doesn't seem "baja like" to have this reaction. What exactly "pisses you off" about this? It's supposed to be funny, not some profound social commentary.
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Dude, she is hard. Don't you see the gun on a Manning jersey? One tough hombre.
Extremism makes one tough and masculine.

It takes balls to go from Marxist to 'Right Wing flavor of the month'.......being bipolar also helps.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #33
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Funny how gay-baiting is OK if you're a liberal. I'm always amused by that one.
Who's "gay-baiting?" I find it sad that they can't accept who they are.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:22 AM   #34
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Nothing more manly than smacking the old lady around once in a while.
Roh, are you really Joe Biden?



Similarity is getting eerie.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:13 PM   #35
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I'm surprised at this coming from you. Doesn't seem "baja like" to have this reaction. What exactly "pisses you off" about this? It's supposed to be funny, not some profound social commentary.
Again I have no problem with the actor "throwing like a girl" my issue is with media in general portraying men as weak and silly compared to their women counter part. For example the car commercial where the two women are talking over the features of the car and the camera pans to her husband sitting behind the wheel of the showroom car vigorously working the steering wheel left and right, camera pans back to the two women in business suits. Sales women comments, "That's all right". Women customer responds, "Is it??"

Now each one of these commercials on there own can be taken as funny but if you look at the whole media tread there appears to be a undertaking to portray men as child like and their wives as stoically enduring the childish behavior. Young minds are watching these ads as well and to some extent they learn their gender identity from them. Granted it's subtle but none the less effective.
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...my issue is with media in general portraying men as weak and silly compared to their women counter part...
Now this I agree with. It is a common theme in commercials (particularly for beer) and also in a lot of sitcoms. The men are shlubs, the women are hot. I think this approach works it you are targeting men, but I'm not clear on how this is perceived by women. Either way, it doesn't make me angry in any way.
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Now this I agree with. It is a common theme in commercials (particularly for beer) and also in a lot of sitcoms. The men are shlubs, the women are hot. I think this approach works it you are targeting men, but I'm not clear on how this is perceived by women. Either way, it doesn't make me angry in any way.
OK Just consider what the real agenda may be.....
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OK Just consider what the real agenda may be.....
Care to opine what the "real agenda" might be? Considering this stereotype has been around for as long as advertisements have, and much longer than that if you've ever read Propertius, I can't imagine their "real agenda" has gotten much done over these past 2000 years or so.
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Care to opine what the "real agenda" might be? Considering this stereotype has been around for as long as advertisements have, and much longer than that if you've ever read Propertius, I can't imagine their "real agenda" has gotten much done over these past 2000 years or so.
I would but it would be akin to trying to pour water into a glass with Saran Wrap covering the top.
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I would but it would be akin to trying to pour water into a glass with Saran Wrap covering the top.
So do you at least acknowledge that this stereotype has been around for far longer than you were at least initially aware? Does this change your view? If not, why not? If you were aware of the existence of this stereotype prior to your starting this thread, why did it not read something like "is anyone concerned about the millenia-old stereotype of trying to pass off men as numbskulls, as demonstrated in this commercial? Here is a list of negative effects on the male/female societal dynamic that I've noticed over the past few thousand years."?
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Actually I was thinking about giving you the nick name of Saran Wrap except for the fact Saran Wrap is clear.
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How clever.

My mind just isn't open enough to accept the truth that this stereotype has been eroding our social hierarchy at such a slow rate over the arc of our society's existence that there has been no observable effect whatsoever.
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Thank You - I thought so too.
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Thank You - I thought so too.
So tell us, baja, how can we right the wrongs of Homer, Propertius, Reginald Smyth and the good people at Volkswagen?
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So tell us, baja, how can we right the wrongs of Homer, Propertius, Reginald Smyth and the good people at Volkswagen?
Who is "us" do you have a mouse in your pocket.
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Who is "us" do you have a mouse in your pocket.
Lets pretend it's the royal we. I would say humor me, but you're already doing that in spades.

Still waiting on a resolution to this dreadful problem which has been around for a long time yet you are just now noticing.

Because of a Volkswagen commercial.
featuring a guy.
having a catch.
with his son.

Sounds. Rrrreasonable...?
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:58 PM   #47
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some have argued that there is no vast left wing conspiracy to wage war on white, male, heterosexual, christian men for about 40 years now.

but that's only if you listen to minority, female, homosexual, non christian voices.
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