|04-27-2013, 06:03 PM||#1|
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
How Did Your Roster Do in the Draft?
1. DJ Fluker, RT, Alabama
Picked 16, Drafted 11 +5
2. Jamar Taylor, FS, Boise State
Picked 34, Drafted 54 -20
2. Robert Woods, Slot WR, USC
Picked 46, Drafted 47 -1
3. Dallas Thomas, LG, Tennessee
Picked 63, Drafted 77 -14
4. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
Picked 99, Drafted 63 +36
4. Sean Porter, WLB, Texas A&M
Picked 113, Drafted 118 -5
5. AJ Klein, ILB, Iowa State
Picked 149, Drafted 148 +1
6. Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State
Picked 170, Drafted 229 -59
7. Rex Burkhead, RB, Nebraska
Picked 222, Drafted 190 +32
Travis Howard, CB, OSU - UDFA to Houston
Khalid Wooten, CB, Nevada - Drafted by Houston at 222 +32
Abry Jones, DT, Georgia - UDFA to Jaguars
Omoregie Uzzi, OG, GTech - ?
Result = +7
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|04-27-2013, 06:59 PM||#2|
Outlose, Outcry, Out1st
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Kansas City, Misery
Only one pick went lower than where I drafted them and that was Luke Joeckel who went #2 instead of #1.
Picked #1 went #2 - Second tackle taken (+1) - Lost 400 points on draft chart
Picked #19 went #13 - First Defensive Tackle taken (-6) - gained 275 value points
Picked #74 went #36 - Fourth DB taken (-38) - gained 320 points
Picked #96 went #55 - Fourth TE Taken (-41) - gained 254 points
Picked #136 went #115 - Sixth QB Taken (-21) - gained 26 points
Picked #204 went #171 - Twenty Third WR Taken (-33) - gained 13.2 points
Drafted #215 (-39+) - gained 5.4 points
Drafted #199 (-55+) - gained 11.8 points
UDFA Kansas City Chiefs (BONUS AS I DRAFTED FOR KC!)
UDFA New England Patriots
UDFA New York Jets
UDFA New York Giants
UDFA Chicago Bears
Using the Draftcountdown value chart, I ended up +505.4 points or the 39th overall pick. Had I picked fisher instead of joeckel, I'd have ended 905.4 points positive or the equivalent of getting an extra first round pick (#19 overall).
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|04-27-2013, 09:38 PM||#3|
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Giants got great value on some and gave up a lot of value on others.
Keenan Allen - picked 1-19 drafted Chargers 3-12
Kevin Minter - picked 2-19 drafted Cards 2-13
Le'Veon Bell - picked 3-19 drafted Steelers 2-16
Kiki Alonso - picked 4-13 drafted Bills 2-14
Nick Kasa - picked 4-19 drafted Raiders 6-4
Joe Kruger - picked 6-19 drafted Eagles 7-6
Brandan Bishop - picked 7-47 not selected
Dan Buckner - no team
AJ Francis - no team
Spencer Ware - drafted 6-19 by Seattle
|04-27-2013, 10:40 PM||#4|
Barkevious Mingo picked 1st round 6th pick. Drafted 1st round 6th pick to BROWNS
EJ Manuel picked 3rd round 68th pick. Drafted 1st round 16th pick.
Leon McFadden picked 4th round 104th pick. Drafted 3rd round 68th pick to BROWNS
Dion Sims picked 5th round 139th pick. Drafted 4th round 106th pick.
JC Tretter picked 6th round 173rd pick. Drafted 4th round 122nd pick.
Duke Williams picked 6th round 175th pick. Drafted 4th round 105th pick.
Kyle Juszczyk drafted in the 4th round 130th pick.
Picked 2 players that browns took. 2 players picked back to back. Excellent value across the board. An UDFA taken in the 4th.
|04-28-2013, 12:47 AM||#5|
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Jacksonville, FL
I'm doing a bunch of statistics for this game, should be done in a day or two. Trying to do multiple ways of "winning".
I am done with the value based drafting rankings based on specific criteria, and Cleveland and Kansas City were Co-Winners with perfect scores.
Cincinnati, mine and Requiem's collaberation, finished tied for 6th best in the value based drafting rankings.
Still working on overall franchise value rankings now.
|04-28-2013, 03:37 AM||#6|
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Pretty happy with it, given the Saints' obvious handicaps going into the draft:
1. Desmond Trufant - Took him with the 17th pick, Atlanta traded up to grab him at 22. The Saints did go DB here, but took Vaccaro instead.
3. Sio Moore - I took him at 75 overall, he went 66 overall to Oakland. So a small bit of value gained.
4. John Simon - Took him at 109, the Ravens took him in the real draft at 129, so some loss of value in terms of draft position, but I like that he was selected by a team that plays a similar style to what New Orleans will be playing in the future, implying that they see the same hybrid OLB/DE role for him that I do.
5. Lavar Edwards - Selected at 144 by me, went 142 in the real draft so pretty much right where he should have gone.
6A. Hugh Thornton - I used 183 to get him, the Colts took him at 86. Huge value pick here, used a mid-sixth to grab a 3rd rounder.
6B. Aaron Mellette - Used 192 to select him, missed by about a round worth of value when the Ravens took him at 238.
6C. Josh Boyd - Selected with 197 in the mock draft, selected in the real draft by the Packers at 167. Especially like that he was taken by a 3-4 team with designs on using him at nose tackle, the same role I envisioned for him in New Orleans.
Wish I could have ran into better value at safety with my selections, but frequently saw guys I liked go just a few picks before my selection and I didn't have the picks to spare in a move up. To make matters worse, I felt the real value at safety in this class was in the 2nd round and the Saints didn't have a 2nd to use, so to feel real good about it I would have had to finagle my 1st all the way back to the 2nd, which isn't exactly easy in a draft where everyone wants to trade down.
The fact that I got such good value on Thronton and to some extent Boyd makes me pretty pleased with my draft though because the OM mock draft typically over drafts the fatties by my estimation, so finding value there takes some work.
|04-28-2013, 05:16 AM||#8|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Abu Dhabi
Sigh... I think this was probably my worst performance in six years of doing this. For some reason, my criteria for offensive linemen seems to be different from what NFL teams are using -- both Barrett Jones and Alvin Bailey had horrific slides on draft day. Also, for the first time ever, NONE of my UDFA's were taken in the regular portion of the draft. Ouch.
1-15 (015): Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia (selected by the Steelers at #17) -2
2-18 (048): Barrett Jones, OC/OG/OT, Alabama (selected by the Rams at #113) -65
4-15 (112): Earl Wolff, S, North Carolina State (selected by the Eagles at #136) -24
4-18 (115): Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse (selected by the Giants at #110) +5
4-29 (126): Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas (not drafted, UDFA of Seahawks) -129
5-17 (150): Josh Boyce, WR, TCU (selected by the Patriots at #102) +48
6-13 (181): Ty Powell, OLB, Harding (selected by the Seahawks at #231) -50
6-38 (206): Zac Stacy, RB, Vanderbilt (selected by the Rams at #160) +46
7-17 (223):Miguel Maysonet, RB, Stony Brook (not drafted, UDFA of Eagles) -32
7-20 (226): Mark Harrison, WR, Rutgers (not drafted, UDFA of Bears) -29
UDFA: Eric Breitenstein, FB, Wofford (not drafted, UDFA of Browns)
UDFA: Jordan Roberts, RB, Charleston (not drafted, UDFA of Chiefs)
UDFA: Josh Hill, TE, Idaho State (not drafted, UDFA of Saints)
UDFA: R.J. Mattes, OT, NC State (not drafted, UDFA of Redskins)
UDFA: Chris McDonald, OG, Michigan State (not drafted, UDFA of Patriots)
UDFA: Ryan Schraeder, OT, Valdosta (not drafted, UDFA of Falcons)
UDFA: Taylor Reed, ILB, SMU (not drafted, UDFA of Cowboys)
UDFA: Nick Driskill, S, Mount Union (not drafted, UDFA of Colts)
UDFA: Devin Smith, CB, Wisconsin (not drafted, UDFA of Cowboys)
UDFA2: Taylor Housewright, QB, Ashland (not drafted, not signed by any team)
UDFA2: Tyron Laughinghouse, WR, St. Augstine (not drafted, not signed by any team)
UDFA2: Eric Rogers, WR, Cal Lutheran (not drafted, UDFA of Cowboys)
UDFA2: Marquis Jackson, DE, Portland State (not drafted, UDFA of Vikings)
UDFA2: Dave Kruger, DE/DT, Utah (not drafted, UDFA of Browns)
UDFA2: Matt Evans, ILB, New Hampshire (not drafted, UDFA of Eagles)
UDFA2: Paul Worrilow, ILB, Delaware (not drafted, UDFA of Falcons)
UDFA2: Dexter Davis, OLB, Friends (not drafted, not signed by any team)
UDFA2: Dustin Harris, CB, Texas A&M (not drafted, UDFA of Cowboys)
UDFA2: Ryan McWethey, S, Wisconsin-Platteville (not drafted, UDFA of Browns)
Overall: -232 points.
|04-28-2013, 08:42 AM||#9|
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Dakota
#30 WR Terence Williams Baylor (#74 Cowboys) -44
#52 WLB Khaseem Greene (#117 Bears) -65
#83 QB Mike Glennon (#72 Buccs) +11
#102 DE Mallicaih Goodman (#127 Falcons) -25
#120 SLB/ILB Jonathan Bostic (#50 Bears) +70
#127 DT Montori Hughes (#139 Colts) -12
#133 WR Kenny Stills (#144 Saints) -11
#154 RB Andre Ellington Clemson (#187 Cardinals) -33
#189 G Ryan Jensen Colorado St. Pueblo (#203 Ravens) -14
#213 SLB Lerentee McCray Florida (UDFA Broncos) -41
#229 FS Bradley McDougald (UDFA Chiefs) -25
QB Mike Hermann RPI (UDFA Raiders) 0
RB LaTavius Murray UCF (#181 Raiders) +73
RB D.J. Harper Boise St. (Finallizing deal with UDFA) 0
WR Quincy McDuffie UCF (UDFA Broncos) 0
WR Brice Butler San Diego St. (#209 Raiders) +45
WR Marlon Brown Georgia (UDFA Texans) 0
TE Luke Wilson Rice (#158 Seahawks) +96
T Jordan Devey Memphis (UDFA Ravens) 0
T Jake Bscherer Minnesota-Duluth (UDFA Seahawks) 0
DE Rufus Johnson Tarleton St. (#183 Saints) +71
DT Mike Purcell Wyoming (UDFA 49ers) 0
ILB Brandon Hepburn Florida A&M (#245 Falcons) +9
SS Don Jones Arkansas St. (#250 Dolphins) +4
P Taylor Accardi Colorado Mines (Not signed, a damn shame 51.1 avg)
I killed the UDFA round with 5 guys getting drafted. Regular draft, reached quited a bit. Excellent value with Bostic. Overall a +99 value, not great, but could be worse.
|04-28-2013, 10:33 AM||#11|
RIP Darrent Williams
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glendale, AZ
1-(23): Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame - went #21 Bengals +2
2-(60): Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU - went #95 Texans -35
3-(92): Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA - went #125 Packers -33
5-(163): Keith Pough, LB, Howard - UDFA Bills -ouch
6-(198): Cory Grissom, DT, South Florida - UDFA Patriots - ouch
7-(232): Rodney Smith, WR, Florida State - UDFA Vikings - ouch
7-(244): Jonathan Stewart, ILB, Texas A&M - UDFA Bills -ouch
7-(249): Sam Brenner, OG, Utah - UDFA Dolphins -ouch
TJ Moe - UDFA Patriots
Collin Klein - Texans
So yeah I suck. Jury is still out if my eye for talent turns out to be any good with all these players - but I cannot believe I missed that bad 5th round on
|04-28-2013, 11:11 AM||#12|
Ring of Famer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Dakota
you're *****ing fired Ludo....I say Geneva you hear Helsinki!
|04-28-2013, 11:14 AM||#13|
Join Date: Oct 2003
Philadelphia didn't reach much or get much value, especially for so many picks. Baltimore drafted four of my guys. I must be thinking like a champion.
7(210) Dalton Freeman, C, Clemson (undrafted, signed with NY Jets) -45
7(212) Josh "Jay Jay" Johnson, CB, Purdue (undrafted, signed with San Diego) -43
6(196) Kerwynn Williams, RB, Utah State (drafted by Indianapolis at #230) -34
3(67) Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern (drafted by Baltimore at #94) -27
7(230) Zach Line, FB, SMU (undrafted, signed with Minnesota) -25
4(101) Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (drafted by Oakland at #112) -11
5(164) Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin (drafted by Baltimore at #168) -4
7(239) John Boyett, FS, Oregon (drafted by Indianapolis at #192) +47
7(225) Mike Catapano, DE, Princeton (drafted by Kansas City at #207) +18
2(35) Matt Elam, SS, Florida (drafted by Baltimore at #32) +3
1(4) Dion Jordan, OLB, Oregon (drafted by Miami at #3) +1
Most value from UDFA rounds
Quinton Dial, DE, Alabama (drafted by San Francisco at #157) +98
Kapron Lewis-Moore, DT, Notre Dame (drafted by Baltimore at #200) +55
D.C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers (drafted by Arizona at #219) +36