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Old 03-06-2013, 08:06 AM   #226
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Yeah, teams spreading the field (signals passing situation) is clearly what is holding Doom back. Lol. Wtf kind of football analysis is that? Crackerjack box style.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:10 AM   #227
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Agreed. No FA CB is even in the same building as a healthy Revis.
Come on man. A couple years ago people were saying that kind of stuff about Nnamdi. And only one of the two blew out his knee last year.

Revis is great. But one, the injury is a question mark. And two, he's not the complete player Champ Bailey was in his prime. Not even close.
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So he should've shined against Baltimore and their constant deep passing attack........right?
A much nicer way of pointing out a dumb statement.

What hurts Dumervil is that he is a 5'11 DE who offers nothing against the run and is a liability there. He is and forever will be a one trick pony, but it is a pretty good trick. He is like the magician who can pull a rabbit out of his hat, but the rabbit actually is dead and doesn't have a skeleton.
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Come on man. A couple years ago people were saying that kind of stuff about Nnamdi. And only one of the two blew out his knee last year.

Revis is great. But one, the injury is a question mark. And two, he's not the complete player Champ Bailey was in his prime. Not even close.
Wrong. Revis is every bit as good as Champ ever was when healthy.
The whole fairytale that "Champ Bailey is some demi-god sent from Zues"
is just getting laughable.
And yes, Revis is as complete a player as Champ has ever been.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:26 AM   #230
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I think other teams' ability to spread the field and then eat us alive over the middle is the biggest thing hurting Doom. If he could count on pass rushing in normal passing situations, his numbers would improve dramatically. The fact that teams can run or dump short on passing downs forever makes his work more difficult than it should be.
Aren't you making an argument against yourself here?
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Aren't you making an argument against yourself here?
He doesn't even know what he is talking about. Playing the role of contrarian is his internet persona. Sad.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:28 AM   #232
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have you people lost your mind??

Revis is coming off of a season ending injury. He's unproven. We have no idea how good he can be, this isn't like Peyton Manning. Revis can't smart his way to covering a fast receiver if his leg won't cooperate.

Doom is a very good player for us. He's a game changer at times. The reason I know that Dumervil is not the person included is because the Broncos coaches and front office KNOW how important Dumervil is to this team. No way we trade him. And honestly Ayers looked very strong at times last year it would be a shame to see him go.

Revis for picks? yeah, we're in Win-now. Revis for integral players on our defense? No ****ing way.
Yeah... people seem to forget that Doom practically shifted the tide or momentum of our season in the SD game that we where down by 20 points. It was his forced fumble, (the one carter took for a TD) that shifted that hole game and our season in another direction.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:30 AM   #233
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Is that something that was just thrown out in this thread?
Did it come from Incarcerated Bob? Then yes, it's a baseless rumor from someone on Twitter who has no sources, despite what a small group of defenders want to believe about him.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:32 AM   #234
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Wolfe is the facilitator for Von not Doom.
What? Lol Dude... seriously. Cat scan ASAP.
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What? Lol Dude... seriously. Cat scan ASAP.
Thats my point about you. You insulted me for not being on the whole ride of Bronco History, but that doesn't change the fact you have very minimal football IQ and your history lesson won't change that.

The biggest factor to the scheme's success and unleashing our best weapon (Von Miller) was Derek Wolfe, not Doom.
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Wrong. Revis is every bit as good as Champ ever was when healthy.
The whole fairytale that "Champ Bailey is some demi-god sent from Zues"
is just getting laughable.
And yes, Revis is as complete a player as Champ has ever been.
h do you ever remember Champ shying away from contact the way Revis did with Tebow? Revis is great. But he ain't the CB that Champ was in his prime.
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Thats my point about you. You insulted me for not being on the whole ride of Bronco History, but that doesn't change the fact you have very minimal football IQ and your history lesson won't change that.

The biggest factor to the scheme's success and unleashing our best weapon (Von Miller) was Derek Wolfe, not Doom.
Again... Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*And when have I insulted you? What a cry baby.

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Old 03-06-2013, 09:01 AM   #238
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A much nicer way of pointing out a dumb statement.

What hurts Dumervil is that he is a 5'11 DE who offers nothing against the run and is a liability there. He is and forever will be a one trick pony, but it is a pretty good trick. He is like the magician who can pull a rabbit out of his hat, but the rabbit actually is dead and doesn't have a skeleton.
Doom had 28 stops (tackles resulting in a failure for the offense) this season. That's the same as Wolfe, and it's more than any DT on the team.

In fact, he's tied (with Wolfe and Will Smith) at 17th among 4-3 DEs. Considering 24 teams play a 4-3 base and each team has 2 starters at DE, that makes him above average.

He isn't the liability against the run that he is made out to be.
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Yeah, teams spreading the field (signals passing situation) is clearly what is holding Doom back. Lol. Wtf kind of football analysis is that? Crackerjack box style.
No, being able to convert with runs and dump offs in what are normally downfield passing scenarios is "hurting" him. If you consider 14th in the league in sacks while your teammate is #3 as "hurting"
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Wrong. Revis is every bit as good as Champ ever was when healthy.
The whole fairytale that "Champ Bailey is some demi-god sent from Zues"
is just getting laughable.
And yes, Revis is as complete a player as Champ has ever been.
Lulz



He's a diva. His contract whining and holdouts only underline it.

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A much nicer way of pointing out a dumb statement.

What hurts Dumervil is that he is a 5'11 DE who offers nothing against the run and is a liability there. He is and forever will be a one trick pony, but it is a pretty good trick. He is like the magician who can pull a rabbit out of his hat, but the rabbit actually is dead and doesn't have a skeleton.
Guess we can go ahead and wipe guys like Old Man Freeney off your replacement board then.

There aren't too many DEs that both clog the run and are top-10 among DEs in sacks.
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So he should've shined against Baltimore and their constant deep passing attack........right?
Back to cuttin' people loose on that one game? I think he shared one sack with Von IIRC. Guess they both better renegotiate to league minimum or get cut.
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If we signed Revis at the cost of losing Doom and then filled the latter gap by picking up Freeney or John Abraham, Elway would deserve executive of the year for that alone.

Best thing is Doom is already commanding a massive 14 mill of our cap next year. Revis wants 16 million a year so it would ultimately cost us 2 million in cap space...where do i sign up?

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Best thing is Doom is already commanding a massive 14 mill of our cap next year. Revis wants 16 million a year so it would ultimately cost us 2 million in cap space...where do i sign up?
Could be worse. Colts payed Freeney $14 mil. last year for 5 sacks and 12 tackles.
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Lulz



He's a diva. His contract whining and holdouts only underline it.
Do you want me to post Diva whifs of Champ?
I wont, but theres plenty out there. Mistakes are made by every great player.
Seriously sit the next couple inning out and maybe stop posting so much.
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I-Bob rumor of the day lol

Denver offered a 1st and a 3rd this year for Revis
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Wrong. Revis is every bit as good as Champ ever was when healthy.
The whole fairytale that "Champ Bailey is some demi-god sent from Zues"
is just getting laughable.
And yes, Revis is as complete a player as Champ has ever been.
Revis is good, but he's not on Champ's level in his prime.
Revis is definitely the best CB in the NFL but no CB was as good as Champ in his prime during the most recent era of the game.
Champ is Jordan, Revis is Kobe. both are good, one is better and it's the former not the latter.
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Do you want me to post Diva whifs of Champ?
I wont, but theres plenty out there. Mistakes are made by every great player.
Seriously sit the next couple inning out and maybe stop posting so much.
Sure, post them. I'd like to compare.
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I-Bob rumor of the day lol

Denver offered a 1st and a 3rd this year for Revis


And Schefter said they're not going to get much better than a 2nd or 3rd. Wonder who is more in the loop, an actual NFL writer or some guy in his mom's basement that makes **** up on Twitter?
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And Schefter said they're not going to get much better than a 2nd or 3rd. Wonder who is more in the loop, an actual NFL writer or some guy in his mom's basement that makes **** up on Twitter?
Ibob is the Santa Claus of the twitter world.
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