All Things Dumocrat part duex

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by lonestar

FOR THOSE FOLKS that want to learn...

Says the guy who can't spell and gets all of his info from right wing propaganda sites.

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[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by TonyR

The word is spelled "deux" you stupid ****.

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[ghwk]

Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

So you start the same thread a mod moved and closed originally.

Why?

So he can thumb his nose at the mods, there really isn't any other reason. Might as well open the other thread back up.

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[TonyR]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

That way you can blame things like sequester on the repubs and keep head firmly buried in sand.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...st+Articles%29

http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-go...rticle/2522040

[Rohirrim]

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Since the other one was closed, time to reinvent the wheel..

Loonstar, thinks posting the same propaganda from the same blogger is reinventing the wheel??

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Yes, TJ is well known for his far left wing leanings...

TJ could care less he only wants clicks and traffic. We are talking about the behavoir of people who frequent the WPR forum nothing more.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by TonyR

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...st+Articles%29

http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-go...rticle/2522040

I notice cut is avoiding this in two threads.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by TonyR

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...st+Articles%29

http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-go...rticle/2522040

I have no doubt you believe that BS. The sequester was Lews idea and Boehner liked it because it at some point would force cuts to be made.

Obama got his tax raise but he won't cut without even more tax increases. This is all on Obama now because he isn;t playing straight.

did obama get taxes raised = yes
did obama get debt limit raised = yes
has obama agreed to any cuts= no

He's saying same thing he has always said not without new revenue. Which is BS because he hasn't come through on any reductions to spending yet.

Even liberals should be fed up with this BS by now.

[Missouribronc]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Perhaps it is not blaming just one party.

Yet nobamas stand on anything carbon based is IMO killing the economy. Shutting down the coal industry before they have viable answers in place is doing. Nothing but driving up costs..
Taking a huge part of the food industry out of the food market place and mandating ethanol is driving up costs for beef and chicken.

Not allowing drilling on federal lands, turning coal country into national wide life refuges (cliton)

Wasting time on keystone.

No new refinery being built since God only knows.

Yep all of those things are causing prices to rise.

This is bull.

The prices have fluctuated wildly despite policies and whose in power. Within less than a month I've paid less than 3 bucks for gas and today I paid $3.79.

To blame it on the President is idiotic.

His energy policies are, in fact, wildly stupid based on infrastructure and impact, but to say that directly causes gas prices is also inaccurate.

[Pony Boy]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

This is bull.

The prices have fluctuated wildly despite policies and whose in power. Within less than a month I've paid less than 3 bucks for gas and today I paid $3.79.

To blame it on the President is idiotic.

His energy policies are, in fact, wildly stupid based on infrastructure and impact, but to say that directly causes gas prices is also inaccurate.

What I have a problem with is Obama's lack of support for the Keystone pipeline. The Keystone pipeline would create jobs and boost the economy in the U.S. and Canada our closest ally.

He prefers to buy oil from Venezuela and the Muslim countries that hate our guts…… go figure

[Missouribronc]

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

What I have a problem with is Obama's lack of support for the Keystone pipeline. The Keystone pipeline would create jobs and boost the economy in the U.S. and Canada our closest ally.

He prefers to buy oil from Venezuela and the Muslim countries that hate our guts…… go figure

I agree.

But it has little to do with gas prices.

[cutthemdown]

No one policy has a huge impact. But when you add up all of Obamas anti energy policies you can see how that has an impact on energy prices. Not just gas but electricity is also through the roof.

[Pony Boy]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

I agree.

But it has little to do with gas prices.

The Keystone pipeline would be a major in step in stabilizing the price of gas in the U.S., we would eliminate the yoyo effect caused by the political unrest in the Middle East.

It seems like the environmentalist that have a problem with pipeline would see the advantage of not sending 10 to 15 empty super tankers to the Middle East on a daily basis.

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

The Keystone pipeline would be a major in step in stabilizing the price of gas in the U.S., we would eliminate the yoyo effect caused by the political unrest in the Middle East.

It seems like the environmentalist that have a problem with pipeline would see the advantage of not sending 10 to 15 empty super tankers to the Middle East on a daily basis.

It would also transport tar sands oil through the US, which, if it spills, is about a million times harder to clean up than traditional.

There was a tar sands spill in 2010 in Kalamazoo, MI on the Kalamazoo River. They still haven't been able to clean it up.

No thanks, I don't want that **** in my country.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

This is bull.

The prices have fluctuated wildly despite policies and whose in power. Within less than a month I've paid less than 3 bucks for gas and today I paid $3.79.

To blame it on the President is idiotic.

His energy policies are, in fact, wildly stupid based on infrastructure and impact, but to say that directly causes gas prices is also inaccurate.

so you are saying that if millions of acres of federally owned land were available for drilling, the keystone pipeline were up and running Anwar as well as EPA restrictions could be lifted, that Refineries could be built and last but not least the redistribution of farm products, that it would have zero effect on prices of gasoline, diesel and natural gas?


oh throw in his war on coal and the power plants that have been shut down, which means billions of cubic feet of natural gas have been diverted to run, would also have zero effect on our cost of living?


I doubt you can say with a straight face that any or all of these measures that the dumocrats have put into place over the past couple of decades really have done nothing but raise prices..

MO it is supply and demand, if there is more locally produced product we do not have to but it elsewhere, there is lower transportation costs and more jobs in the USA, all of which would HELP to keep the costs down..

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by houghtam

It would also transport tar sands oil through the US, which, if it spills, is about a million times harder to clean up than traditional.

There was a tar sands spill in 2010 in Kalamazoo, MI on the Kalamazoo River. They still haven't been able to clean it up.

No thanks, I don't want that **** in my country.

just curious do you live in any of those states?

Just how many oil spills how there been in the US in the past couple of decades?

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by lonestar

just curious do you live in any of those states?

Just how many oil spills how there been in the US in the past couple of decades?

No I do not, but I also don't live in Florida, and I still don't believe we should drain the Everglades and put up condos there.

And according to Wikipedia, there have been 31 oil spills in the past 20 years, including the spill in the Kalamazoo River, which was tar sands oil (just like the Keystone Pipeline is supposed to carry), which, when spilled, sinks to the bottom, and cannot be cleaned up by conventional means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmadge_Creek_oil_spill

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by houghtam

No I do not, but I also don't live in Florida, and I still don't believe we should drain the Everglades and put up condos there.

And according to Wikipedia, there have been 31 oil spills in the past 20 years, including the spill in the Kalamazoo River, which was tar sands oil (just like the Keystone Pipeline is supposed to carry), which, when spilled, sinks to the bottom, and cannot be cleaned up by conventional means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmadge_Creek_oil_spill

thanks for your candor..

I still want to see the keystone pipe line built and us get the use of the products..

I'm tired of giving our money to muslims that hate us and chinese that are trying to take over the world..