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Old 02-19-2013, 02:10 PM   #51
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why do you keep shoe horning him into every conversation? He's one hit away from being a vegetable....
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:38 PM   #52
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I would love to see us upgrade our WR depth but I don't want to pay 9mil a year for it.

Amendola is going to cash in, in FA. I don't see us having a shot at him either. Willis is a good STer but that is about it. I haven't seen much of anything from Caldwell. Maybe they can draft a guy late to compete for his spot. I miss that Hill guy who the Jets signed off our PS I believe. He seemed to catch everything that went his way from what I saw.

They must like Caldwell or have plans for him this year. Anyone hear what Stokely is going to do? does he even want to play again?
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:16 PM   #53
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I would love to see us upgrade our WR depth but I don't want to pay 9mil a year for it.

Amendola is going to cash in, in FA. I don't see us having a shot at him either. Willis is a good STer but that is about it. I haven't seen much of anything from Caldwell. Maybe they can draft a guy late to compete for his spot. I miss that Hill guy who the Jets signed off our PS I believe. He seemed to catch everything that went his way from what I saw.

They must like Caldwell or have plans for him this year. Anyone hear what Stokely is going to do? does he even want to play again?

Stokley has said he wants to return this yr if the Broncos want him. And, I'm pretty sure Peyton wants that
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #54
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Brian Hartline please
I'd rather have Amendola than Hartline. Hartline faded last year and when Amendola was out of the offense the Rams really missed him. I think he is better int he red zone as well.
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I'd rather have Amendola than Hartline. Hartline faded last year and when Amendola was out of the offense the Rams really missed him. I think he is better int he red zone as well.
Either would make our receiving corps scary as hell.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:30 PM   #56
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Who the hell would rather sign austin collie than wes welker... Repeat that out loud... Austin collie over wes welker... That is so ridiculous its not even funny
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:51 PM   #57
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Who the hell would rather sign austin collie than wes welker... Repeat that out loud... Austin collie over wes welker... That is so ridiculous its not even funny
Because signing Welker isn't a $4 million dollar proposition. It's more like $7-$10 a year easy. I said I would rather sign Collie, and Knighton, and Schwartz, extend and resign some of our own with Welkers money. Nobody said Collie over Welker. Jokes on you.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:52 PM   #58
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Who the hell would rather sign austin collie than wes welker... Repeat that out loud... Austin collie over wes welker... That is so ridiculous its not even funny
Collie 700k, Welker 7-10m.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:56 PM   #59
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You don't need a $9 million dollar slot WR. Sure it would be great to have Wes, but it's not realistic and practical given the size of his contract..
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Odds are you are paying 100k per catch for either Collie or Welker. You just have to ask yourself is 7 better then 100.
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So what exactly is our cap space? Have you guys talked about this elsewhere? I keep hearing big name free agents and thought we had money, then I hear half the guys saying we can't afford anything...so whats the real deal?
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I would love to see us upgrade our WR depth but I don't want to pay 9mil a year for it.

Amendola is going to cash in, in FA. I don't see us having a shot at him either. Willis is a good STer but that is about it. I haven't seen much of anything from Caldwell. Maybe they can draft a guy late to compete for his spot. I miss that Hill guy who the Jets signed off our PS I believe. He seemed to catch everything that went his way from what I saw.

They must like Caldwell or have plans for him this year. Anyone hear what Stokely is going to do? does he even want to play again?
I think the idea of Welker, Amendola and the Harvin trade idea are never going o happen. Collie is interesting but I doubt he can get medical clearance. Donnie Avery is who I am really hoping for. I think he could be had at reasonable price and he is a major upgrade from Caldwell and Willis.
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So what exactly is our cap space? Have you guys talked about this elsewhere? I keep hearing big name free agents and thought we had money, then I hear half the guys saying we can't afford anything...so whats the real deal?
LAst conut was right at 13-14 million.. IF the tag clady then it is closer to 4 million.. of which we will need that amount to sign rookies..


that leaves about 15 broncos from last year that are UFA swinging in the wind..

not to mention the 24 existing broncos on the roster with contracts that will be UFA at the end of 2013 season..

we can clear out about 9 million from cutting both DJ and Mayes..

without redoing contracts of the biggie players there is not more cash to spend..

please remember that the resigning hop-sctoch is what put us in cap hell for most of mikeys last decade.. borrowing/robbing Champ, Jake, John, TD, Rod and many others to pay other moron UFA.. that for the most part did not work out..


I think Pat figured that out and will hold Johns feet to the fire about NOT repeating history..

Sounds like they are pretty much committed to build via the draft sprinkling in a seasoned vet or two..

so to answer your question there is no money..
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So what exactly is our cap space? Have you guys talked about this elsewhere? I keep hearing big name free agents and thought we had money, then I hear half the guys saying we can't afford anything...so whats the real deal?
LAst conut was right at 13-14 million.. IF the tag clady then it is closer to 4 million.. of which we will need that amount to sign rookies..


that leaves about 15 broncos from last year that are UFA swinging in the wind..

not to mention the 24 existing broncos on the roster with contracts that will be UFA at the end of 2013 season..

we can clear out about 9 million from cutting both DJ and Mayes..

without redoing contracts of the biggie players there is not more cash to spend..

please remember that the resigning hop-sctoch is what put us in cap hell for most of mikeys last decade.. borrowing/robbing Champ, Jake, John, TD, Rod and many others to pay other moron UFA.. that for the most part did not work out..


I think Pat figured that out and will hold Johns feet to the fire about NOT repeating history..

Sounds like they are pretty much committed to build via the draft sprinkling in a seasoned vet or two..

so to answer your question there is no money..
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So what exactly is our cap space? Have you guys talked about this elsewhere? I keep hearing big name free agents and thought we had money, then I hear half the guys saying we can't afford anything...so whats the real deal?
LAst conut was right at 13-14 million.. IF the tag clady then it is closer to 4 million.. of which we will need that amount to sign rookies..


that leaves about 15 broncos from last year that are UFA swinging in the wind..

not to mention the 24 existing broncos on the roster with contracts that will be UFA at the end of 2013 season..

we can clear out about 9 million from cutting both DJ and Mayes..

without redoing contracts of the biggie players there is not more cash to spend..

please remember that the resigning hop-sctoch is what put us in cap hell for most of mikeys last decade.. borrowing/robbing Champ, Jake, John, TD, Rod and many others to pay other moron UFA.. that for the most part did not work out..


I think Pat figured that out and will hold Johns feet to the fire about NOT repeating history..

Sounds like they are pretty much committed to build via the draft sprinkling in a seasoned vet or two..

so to answer your question there is no money..
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I think after Clady and his franchise tag is assigned, cuts Denver make, they will have about $11 MM to spend in FA.

This team is Super Bowl ready right now even with the current roster and draft picks.

At this point I don't think it makes sense to add a few veterans and money would be better served to sign one impact FA and maybe a few lower tier rotational players

I expect Denver to sign a big name FA.
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I think after Clady and his franchise tag is assigned, cuts Denver make, they will have about $11 MM to spend in FA.

This team is Super Bowl ready right now even with the current roster and draft picks.

At this point I don't think it makes sense to add a few veterans and money would be better served to sign one impact FA and maybe a few lower tier rotational players

I expect Denver to sign a big name FA.
Agree completely. The team doesn't really need more depth all around. It needs to add one impact guy.
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I think after Clady and his franchise tag is assigned, cuts Denver make, they will have about $11 MM to spend in FA.

This team is Super Bowl ready right now even with the current roster and draft picks.

At this point I don't think it makes sense to add a few veterans and money would be better served to sign one impact FA and maybe a few lower tier rotational players

I expect Denver to sign a big name FA.
I agree, do not go after any 30 something FA. Spend some money on a 26 to 29 year-old in his prime then get some lower class FAs. Then use all your draft picks, do not move up.

During training camp there will be lots of talent out there and the recently cut. If Denver feels they have some holes they can then fill them at this time with the 30 somethings looking for one more year. Ala Brooking, Koppen and Leonhard.
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Green Bay bound guys. Jennings will hit the market at a more affordable price and i can see us making a splash on him. Meanwhile Rodgers gets armed with the biggest slot threat in the NFL to complement Cobb/Nelson and the NFC ****s itself.
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LAst conut was right at 13-14 million.. IF the tag clady then it is closer to 4 million.. of which we will need that amount to sign rookies..


that leaves about 15 broncos from last year that are UFA swinging in the wind..

not to mention the 24 existing broncos on the roster with contracts that will be UFA at the end of 2013 season..

we can clear out about 9 million from cutting both DJ and Mayes..

without redoing contracts of the biggie players there is not more cash to spend..

please remember that the resigning hop-sctoch is what put us in cap hell for most of mikeys last decade.. borrowing/robbing Champ, Jake, John, TD, Rod and many others to pay other moron UFA.. that for the most part did not work out..


I think Pat figured that out and will hold Johns feet to the fire about NOT repeating history..

Sounds like they are pretty much committed to build via the draft sprinkling in a seasoned vet or two..

so to answer your question there is no money..
Right, so the Broncos will limp into the season with a 40 man roster. My guess is they will sign mid-level guys like they did last year, and somehow Lonestar's head will explode because his simple math doesnt add up
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LAst conut was right at 13-14 million.. IF the tag clady then it is closer to 4 million.. of which we will need that amount to sign rookies..


that leaves about 15 broncos from last year that are UFA swinging in the wind..

not to mention the 24 existing broncos on the roster with contracts that will be UFA at the end of 2013 season..

we can clear out about 9 million from cutting both DJ and Mayes..

without redoing contracts of the biggie players there is not more cash to spend..

please remember that the resigning hop-sctoch is what put us in cap hell for most of mikeys last decade.. borrowing/robbing Champ, Jake, John, TD, Rod and many others to pay other moron UFA.. that for the most part did not work out..


I think Pat figured that out and will hold Johns feet to the fire about NOT repeating history..

Sounds like they are pretty much committed to build via the draft sprinkling in a seasoned vet or two..

so to answer your question there is no money..
The money for rookies is already set aside,cladys' contract is not going to have any affect on Denver's ability to sign rookies.
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Stokley has said he wants to return this yr if the Broncos want him. And, I'm pretty sure Peyton wants that
But but but he will not catch a 100 passť like Welker has in the past. OMG. A mere 50-60 receptions will not be enough.

These kiddies want want want not releazing that DT and Decker are going to get close to Hundred each and the TEs another 35-60. And if you are in a few to RBs. There are not to many more passes that could be thrown.

They forget it is not madden. Where everything is perfecto.

There are few slot guys better than stokes.
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The money for rookies is already set aside,cladys' contract is not going to have any affect on Denver's ability to sign rookies.
Just where is this rookie money set aside.

A common misconception is that because it is budgeted now that it is a in a hind pocket or something.

That money comes out of the same salary cap money that does the guys that go on to IR and as well as the rest of the top 51 players money is in.

No magic bank account for rookies sorry Charlie.


Please folks stop using this fallacy, as a way to spend money that is not there. Because it is not.

Once a spender always a spender right PP.
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