The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-14-2013, 12:12 PM   #1
Requiem
~~~
 
Requiem's Avatar
 
~ ~ ~

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Earth Division
Posts: 23,292

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Princes of Tara
Default Analysis of Rahim Moore's Epic Fail.

Brought to you by the National Football Post and Snacky Smores.
Requiem is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-14-2013, 12:25 PM   #2
Mediator12
OM analyst
 
Mediator12's Avatar
 
Roby AND Latimer?Who the Hell Knew?

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: INDY
Posts: 10,069

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

Funny, I posted the exact same thing right after it happened...

I guess now people will believe it. And, it was a freaking Horrible playcall JDR. Horrible, horrible, and almost despicable.
Mediator12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 12:34 PM   #3
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 20,121

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

As bad as the playcall was, the execution was 100x worse. Simply make the tackle at the 22 yd line, where he caught the ball, and we probably STILL have a 90% chance of winning the game.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 12:41 PM   #4
Requiem
~~~
 
Requiem's Avatar
 
~ ~ ~

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Earth Division
Posts: 23,292

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Princes of Tara
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediator12 View Post
Funny, I posted the exact same thing right after it happened...

I guess now people will believe it. And, it was a freaking Horrible playcall JDR. Horrible, horrible, and almost despicable.
It just put it into better perspective for me with the diagrams and such. I'm not as savvy as you, Rev and others are on the playbook. I knew you'd chime in.
Requiem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 12:54 PM   #5
RaiderH8r
In The Bag
 
RaiderH8r's Avatar
 
Don't worry. Nobody's listening.

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Meth Alley
Posts: 10,375

Adopt-a-Bronco:
MethWolfe
Default

The net effect is that Daydream is a turd and should be replaced.
RaiderH8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:06 PM   #6
Bmore Manning
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
As bad as the playcall was, the execution was 100x worse. Simply make the tackle at the 22 yd line, where he caught the ball, and we probably STILL have a 90% chance of winning the game.
This. Moore so poorly performed on the entire play, and this showed during the season too..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:12 PM   #7
Crushaholic
Armchair Poster
 
Crushaholic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 22,505

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Isaiah Burse
Default

Moore had actually been IMPROVING his play, this season. He took a bad angle on the coverage, but he should have NEVER been put in that situation. I had been saying that, from Day 1. Unless they were expecting a Ray Rice draw play, the deep ball should have been adequately covered...
Crushaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:19 PM   #8
maher_tyler
Ring of Famer
 
maher_tyler's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 6,139

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Champ Bailey
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmore Manning View Post
This. Moore so poorly performed on the entire play, and this showed during the season too..
I think he played better as the season went on. Played much better than his rookie year. I think he will come back even better and more motivated. I know if I made a mistake that big I'd do everything I could to become as good of player as possible.
maher_tyler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:24 PM   #9
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 20,121

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushaholic View Post
He took a bad angle on the coverage, but he should have NEVER been put in that situation. I had been saying that, from Day 1. Unless they were expecting a Ray Rice draw play, the deep ball should have been adequately covered...
Put in WHAT situation? To play his one and only position of safety on a deep pass?
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #10
Mediator12
OM analyst
 
Mediator12's Avatar
 
Roby AND Latimer?Who the Hell Knew?

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: INDY
Posts: 10,069

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

The thing about that play is it stressed a guy who struggled with reading 4 verticals all year. That is why you call Cover 4 with umbrella principles there. As Bowen States, anything even intermediate takes up too much time and they have the ball on the 45 yard line if he throws to the TE in the seam and out route. Plus, if they keep him in bounds they lose 15 seconds before they can spike the ball as well with 2 guys going deep.

Mistake, upon mistake, upon mistake creates a disaster. And, DEN made plenty defensively all game long. I still want to forgive Moore, but that play is so freaking wrong in so many ways.
Mediator12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #11
Crushaholic
Armchair Poster
 
Crushaholic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 22,505

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Isaiah Burse
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
Put in WHAT situation? To play his one and only position of safety on a deep pass?
There's no doubt that Moore failed, when covering the deep pass. I think Jack Del Rio ALSO failed, by not calling more of a prevent defense. Give them some underneath routes. Just don't let them have a quick score. I don't think Jack Del Rio gets enough criticism, for that play call...
Crushaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 01:58 PM   #12
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 20,121

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediator12 View Post
The thing about that play is it stressed a guy who struggled with reading 4 verticals all year. That is why you call Cover 4 with umbrella principles there. As Bowen States, anything even intermediate takes up too much time and they have the ball on the 45 yard line if he throws to the TE in the seam and out route. Plus, if they keep him in bounds they lose 15 seconds before they can spike the ball as well with 2 guys going deep.
This is why I'm confused. Everything you state about the intermediate routes is true, so by definition, there was nothing for Moore to read. Therefore, there was nothing to struggle with. ALL HE HAD TO DO was stay deeper than the deepest guy. That's it. The corners and LBs had all the intermediate routes covered.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 02:15 PM   #13
Rascal
RIP
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,101

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Turf
Default

I always like it when my balls, already clinging for life, are mangled even further.
Rascal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 02:17 PM   #14
Mogulseeker
Formerly mightysmurf
 
Mogulseeker's Avatar
 
https://twitter.com/mogulseeker

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Vail
Posts: 16,509

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Lamin Barrow
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushaholic View Post
There's no doubt that Moore failed, when covering the deep pass. I think Jack Del Rio ALSO failed, by not calling more of a prevent defense. Give them some underneath routes. Just don't let them have a quick score. I don't think Jack Del Rio gets enough criticism, for that play call...
It potentially cost him a head coaching job, so....
Mogulseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 02:55 PM   #15
Bmore Manning
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by maher_tyler View Post
I think he played better as the season went on. Played much better than his rookie year. I think he will come back even better and more motivated. I know if I made a mistake that big I'd do everything I could to become as good of player as possible.
He did improve from his rookie season, especially in his tackling.. But his coverage left a lot to be desired. His angles and technique are really flawed. He should be a man on a mission next year. But there should be competition to push him..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 06:13 PM   #16
KipCorrington25
Free Safety
 
KipCorrington25's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Centennial
Posts: 3,561
Default

We lost on a hail mary it's unforgivable.
KipCorrington25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 10:05 PM   #17
enjolras
Ring of Famer
 
enjolras's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,600
Default

There was 40-something seconds left. You can't play straight up prevent defense, that's how you lose. Shannahan didn't play prevent when the superbowl was on the line.

Moore needs to do his ****ing job.
enjolras is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 12:45 AM   #18
ol#7
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

I am still not over this. Not even close.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 03:26 AM   #19
ThirtyDegrees
Guest
 

Posts: n/a
Default

All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 04:02 AM   #20
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 20,121

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees View Post
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?
Why don't you create a thread about it? This isn't the place.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 08:00 AM   #21
CEH
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,949
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees View Post
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?
Do we know for a fact that Bailiey did not expect inside help on Smith's first TD. The 2nd one was a great play by Smith but I'm not convince Bailiey wasn't expecting inside help on the 60 yard bomb.
CEH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 09:01 AM   #22
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
Posts: 54,301

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
This is why I'm confused. Everything you state about the intermediate routes is true, so by definition, there was nothing for Moore to read. Therefore, there was nothing to struggle with. ALL HE HAD TO DO was stay deeper than the deepest guy. That's it. The corners and LBs had all the intermediate routes covered.
Yep. That was a dirt lot football situation. Stay deeper than everybody else. It ain't rocket science.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 03:45 PM   #23
rmsanger
I support Missouri cops
 
rmsanger's Avatar
 
Another one bites the dust!

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,933

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirtyDegrees View Post
All the pathetic losers in attendance to go after their scapegoat.

Can we get an analysis of all of the times Champ Bailey got embarrassed?
sofa king this.
rmsanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 12:20 AM   #24
pricejj
jungle
 
pricejj's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 8,540
Default

In Defense of Rahim, the trajectory on that ball was like a punt. Carter didn't jam, didn't cover, didn't pursue, and didn't tackle. Same lazy guy I saw all year.
pricejj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2013, 05:21 AM   #25
Beantown Bronco
Athletic Supporter
 
Beantown Bronco's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mass
Posts: 20,121

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Matt Prater
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pricejj View Post
In Defense of Rahim, the trajectory on that ball was like a punt.
That's a defense? I think that makes it worse. It's one thing to get beat on a perfectly thrown bullet pass; but a high arching punt that the receiver had to stop and actually WAIT for?!? Shows just how bad he played it when he had 10 seconds to run like 20-30 yards and he effed it up.
Beantown Bronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:09 AM.


Denver Broncos