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Old 03-30-2014, 08:48 PM   #426
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Wasn't there another train car full of people that they ran by that we hear people screaming from?
Soon as I seen them all together at the end minus Beth I figured she was going to end up being in another car.
Yea, there was another car with people yelling for help as they ran by. Im pretty certain these people are cannibals and those were def human bones. They are certainly in a pickle, not sure how they will get out of it. Next season has been set up nicely, this one has been up and down. I thought it ended strong these last 3 episodes though. IMO, Beth isn't at Terminus. I think she was abducted by someone else and it'll be a couple episodes into next season before we figure out whats going on there. Curious to see how Tyrese and Carol come into play.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:52 PM   #427
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I figure the only reason they didn't shoot them all right away was because they want to fatten them up.
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Old 03-30-2014, 09:04 PM   #428
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Well I suspect that the Terminus people are cannibals (Technically Rick is now too ). And Denise Crosby's character was the defaced woman in that painting, so whatever that means, we'll have to see. But the series creator said this season was about them all growing up, and I think they all did. Now for once a season isn't going to begin where they are in an awesome situation and we have to watch it be ruined. Now they are in a bad situation and it may improve. Anyway I thought this season was much better than Season 3, which was a total mail-in by the writers. Some of those episodes were just garbage. I enjoyed this one, at least. It will be interesting where this goes.
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Well I suspect that the Terminus people are cannibals (Technically Rick is now too ).
That whole sequence was pretty dark, even for this show. It was looking pretty hopeless there for a minute, Daryl getting his ass kicked, Michonne's attempts to get the gun from that guy were being easily shrugged off, Carl was about to get raped. (My buddy I was watching with didn't think that was the case, but we rewinded it and that guy was no doubt about to rape him). Then Rick goes zombie on the guy and the tide turned.
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:07 AM   #430
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Carl was about to get raped. (My buddy I was watching with didn't think that was the case, but we rewinded it and that guy was no doubt about to rape him).
Yeah, his hand reaches off camera and you can hear a belt unclip. Pretty bad timing to just be making adjustments, didn't look good
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Yea, there was another car with people yelling for help as they ran by. Im pretty certain these people are cannibals and those were def human bones. They are certainly in a pickle, not sure how they will get out of it. Next season has been set up nicely, this one has been up and down. I thought it ended strong these last 3 episodes though. IMO, Beth isn't at Terminus. I think she was abducted by someone else and it'll be a couple episodes into next season before we figure out whats going on there. Curious to see how Tyrese and Carol come into play.
My guess is Carol and Tyrese will sneak in and find the train car that they are all in......then Rick will let them know of the bag of weapons that he buried right outside the fence.

Carol/Tyrese will arm a few of them in the train car with those weapons.....and when someone from Terminus comes to feed them......BLAM!

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Yeah my wife didn't think Carl was being raped either, but it seemed very Deliverance to me. And I agree that whole sequence was pretty shocking. The only thing that would have made it GOT Red Wedding shocking is if Rick and the rest all died. The most shocking part to me was that the survivors got killed so quickly after they were somewhat established as strong characters and you kind of felt like they were going to be bigger players. I actually thought Rick biting the guy was smart considering he's been seeing undead do that with great efficacy for so many years.
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I find each season that the continuity getting worse and worse. Do the characters not learn anything from their past experiences? The writers really have to manufacture the suspense now, and its somewhat trying at times.

i still enjoy it but the series dropped from a great show to a fun show IMO.

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I think Terminus is more of a brain washing / Cult place. Maybe they eat the humans they cant brain wash, or they are doing some type of sacrifices to their god. Not sure, I am excited to see a colder brand of Rick next season. (if they follow through).
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I find each season that the continuity getting worse and worse. Do the characters not learn anything from their past experiences? The writers really have to manufacture the suspense now, and its somewhat trying at times.

i still enjoy it but the series dropped from a great show to a fun show IMO.

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I think Terminus is more of a brain washing / Cult place. Maybe they eat the humans they cant brain wash, or they are doing some type of sacrifices to their god. Not sure, I am excited to see a colder brand of Rick next season. (if they follow through).
they have no food...what do you suggest they do?
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they have no food...what do you suggest they do?
The People of Terminus? They have gardens, i assume people go on runs. all the same stuff the "good guys" did at the prison.

maybe i'm not following what your asking?
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The People of Terminus? They have gardens, i assume people go on runs. all the same stuff the "good guys" did at the prison.

maybe i'm not following what your asking?
the fractured group Rick, Daryl etc.

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Three things seemed clear to me from the finale:

1. Rick will be more of a bad ass now. He has accepted his role as a leader and protector at all costs and he will do anything required to try and protect Carl.

2. Terminus is definitely a cannibal community. When Rick, Daryl, Carl and Michone were running through the compound they passed (quickly) by a gated area with tarps and butchered meat, including what looked like human skulls. Plus, there was no other reason for the Terminus people to herd them to the train car and let them live, rather than mowing them down.



3. Carl was definitely going to be raped. The fat dude flipped carl onto his stomach and was unbuckling his belt. The leader of the Claimers also told Rick they were going to basically do it to Michone and Carl.
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^ I agree with Irish on all counts. On #2, they didn't want bullets in their food!
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^ I agree with Irish on all counts. On #2, they didn't want bullets in their food!
Not only that, but you don't butcher the cow unless you have somewhere to store the beef. Its not like there would be many running ice chests in the zombie apocalypse for meat storage through the summer.
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I don't know how you guys do it. The comics have been out for along time and the cliff notes on Wikipedia. The answers are readily available.

also, I have a theory that in about 1-2 more seasons, the comic and show will be released at the same time which could be the drive for some of these story lines dragging out on the show.
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I don't know how you guys do it. The comics have been out for along time and the cliff notes on Wikipedia. The answers are readily available.

also, I have a theory that in about 1-2 more seasons, the comic and show will be released at the same time which could be the drive for some of these story lines dragging out on the show.
It's actually pretty simple- just don't read that stuff
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:35 AM   #442
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Yea, there was another car with people yelling for help as they ran by. Im pretty certain these people are cannibals and those were def human bones. They are certainly in a pickle, not sure how they will get out of it. Next season has been set up nicely, this one has been up and down. I thought it ended strong these last 3 episodes though. IMO, Beth isn't at Terminus. I think she was abducted by someone else and it'll be a couple episodes into next season before we figure out whats going on there. Curious to see how Tyrese and Carol come into play.
I think Tyrese and Carol are the ones who come and save them (Beth too if she is found by them). I loved the scene with Rick (go for the jugular!), Daryl, Carl and Machonne. Bad ass. Terminus just pissed off Rick in a whole new way but if he was so worried about this place and buried the weapons a few feet from the complex, why did he have all 4 of them go inside? Would have made more sense to leave Carl and one other to stay outside the premises until they are heard from the others that went inside. I hope someone has a pocket knife in their buttcrack so they can start working loose nuts or bend back rusty metal.
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the fractured group Rick, Daryl etc.
really have no clue if they wont be feed... we only saw them just get locked up. i have no clue.
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They should have ran when they saw Tasha Yar's great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother serving their friends.
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It's actually pretty simple- just don't read that stuff
SPOILER ALERT: Darth Vader is Luke's father.
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And they don't follow the comics. Carol sleeps with Tyreece and then kills herself when he changes to Michonne and then she kills herself. Sophia never dies. The Greenes die differently and at different times and in different ways. And Daryle and Merle aren't even in the comics - AT ALL. So you can use the comics to guess, but as things have evolved in a totally different way and time frame, the comics aren't any kind of predictive bible.
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I think Tyrese and Carol are the ones who come and save them (Beth too if she is found by them). I loved the scene with Rick (go for the jugular!), Daryl, Carl and Machonne. Bad ass. Terminus just pissed off Rick in a whole new way but if he was so worried about this place and buried the weapons a few feet from the complex, why did he have all 4 of them go inside? Would have made more sense to leave Carl and one other to stay outside the premises until they are heard from the others that went inside. I hope someone has a pocket knife in their buttcrack so they can start working loose nuts or bend back rusty metal.
I didn't understand the decision for all four of them to go in at once, either. Also think they probably could have waited a little longer while scouting things out before they went in. I think your right about Tyrese and Carol coming to the rescue, but I bet a few members of the main gang in the car end up as steaks on the grill before all is said and done.
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SPOILER ALERT: Darth Vader is Luke's father.
I was meaning to get around to that movie but now thanks to you I'll never watch it....
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I was meaning to get around to that movie but now thanks to you I'll never watch it....
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And they don't follow the comics. Carol sleeps with Tyreece and then kills herself when he changes to Michonne and then she kills herself. Sophia never dies. The Greenes die differently and at different times and in different ways. And Daryle and Merle aren't even in the comics - AT ALL. So you can use the comics to guess, but as things have evolved in a totally different way and time frame, the comics aren't any kind of predictive bible.
Concepts and themes match up though. Terminus is Terminus.
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