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Old 02-08-2013, 01:03 PM   #76
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That's another one - Bartenders - okay I get it if you go and order multiple drinks that require mixing or whatever. But what if you walk up to a bar and order a 3 dollar bud light. Is opening a beer bottle really a tip worthy service?
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:05 PM   #77
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Especially if the girl is letting you take shots out the breasts later. That 3 dollar Bud Light (piss) becomes 5 dollars and so worth it!
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:09 PM   #78
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Interesting article that touches on this very subject...

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/f...hey_tithe.html
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:10 PM   #79
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Sounds like a fun time. One of my best friends from undergraduate got his degree in English, went on to get his MA and now is doing his PhD back where we went to school together (in exactly what you are) and is teaching at the university (lower level courses) and making a pretty solid living while completing his PhD.

I hear you on the AH&SS people getting ripped on all the time. Has happened to me a lot on this board, but couldn't care less.

Maybe you'll be a rockstar professor someday or write a book more influential than 1984.
Wait, is this a place to worry about our writing careers? If so, i have worries too.

I honestly think Kaylore meant nothing by his comment, but I have to admit i get tweaked when people associate "green jobs" with "effete." One day we'll be glad all that research is being done.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:10 PM   #80
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I'd tip her something, and then speak to a manager about her job security. That's me.
Tip + fired vs no tip and job. Hmmmmm that is a tough one.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:15 PM   #81
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That's another one - Bartenders - okay I get it if you go and order multiple drinks that require mixing or whatever. But what if you walk up to a bar and order a 3 dollar bud light. Is opening a beer bottle really a tip worthy service?
Yes, you have to at least give him / her a dollar
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:16 PM   #82
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Here's a couple serious questions, though:

1) When (and how much) do you tip a valet? When, as in, do you just tip when you're picking up? Or do you tip when you're dropping off, as well?

2) How much do you tip a bellman at a hotel?
This is why I try to park my car and carry my bags. I have no idea. I usually give a couple of bucks to the valet guy who gets my car.

Kaylore, $3 should be okay - that's 20% on a $15 cut... Though me and a barber/stylist haven't been on speaking terms in 13 years.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:20 PM   #83
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I almost always tip just over 15% to what ever evens out the bill. Unless it is the typical Chili's type lunch that comes out to $14, I always leave $3. I think 15% is fine and most people think that signifies a good tip. I don't feel cheap leaving 15%.

My hair cuts cost $15 and I tip $10

Usually give the valet a couple of bucks when I pick up my car, same goes for hotel porters

Bartenders get $1 for 1 beer, cute girls get more.
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ha! I so rarely carry cash on me, so i try to avoid valets all together because I'd feel bad not tipping them.
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Interesting article that touches on this very subject...

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/f...hey_tithe.html
I'm just surprised the link isn't to IAOFM...
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This guy deserves to get Super-Aids. Seriously.

My rule. Don't be cheap, but don't be a sucker either. I tip 20 percent if the service is good. I tip 25 percent for outstanding service at local restaurants where the waiter/waitress recognizes me as a return customer. I tip 10 percent for below average service. Basically, you have to disappear to get 10 percent. Honestly, I haven't had poor enough service to warrant a 0 tip in like 6 years or so.
Oh, I was angry.

He didn't see me follow him in; and when he came out, he asked the others where I was. They didn't know why I went in, either. When I came out, he was SO nervous! When we got back to the hotel, I told him either he could tell the others about it, or I would. He told them later that day; and that's when the BS about it being immoral came out.

Oh, we made him pay for that, over the last couple months he traveled with us.

And I'll tell you - the douchebaggery with putting the stack of ones on the table is almost as offensive to me as him taking our tips. On many occasions, I got up from my table, found the server, and apologized. I didn't want to be associated with the pretentious douche.
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I'm just surprised the link isn't to IAOFM...
I'm just surprised I don't care what you're surprised about. And that your intellectual curiosity clearly knows no bounds!
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Well if that guy over there is Sea Bass. . .
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ha! I so rarely carry cash on me, so i try to avoid valets all together because I'd feel bad not tipping them.
This is especially troublesome when you don't have any small bills. It's like, stay away because I'm not giving you $20.
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This is why I try to park my car and carry my bags. I have no idea. I usually give a couple of bucks to the valet guy who gets my car.

Kaylore, $3 should be okay - that's 20% on a $15 cut... Though me and a barber/stylist haven't been on speaking terms in 13 years.
I only use valets when the alternative is completely unreasonable. I have no idea if I'm right, but I've always tipped when I pick up the car, and it's usually $5.00 (or $10.00, if something justifies it).

For bellmen and skycaps, I do $2.00 a bag. $1.00 a bag used to be pretty common with skycaps. Now, as I don't travel much (thank God), I do $2.00. We always seem to have a bag that is slightly overweight, a car seat, or some other oddity. It's nice to do a little extra to ensure they are motivated to get your bags where they need to go.

I have no idea if I'm right on the bellmen number. It always seems okay.
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Wait, is this a place to worry about our writing careers? If so, i have worries too.

I honestly think Kaylore meant nothing by his comment, but I have to admit i get tweaked when people associate "green jobs" with "effete." One day we'll be glad all that research is being done.
I was trying to use something more current than "actor."
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That story about tip being an acronym is bogus. Acronyms were not widely used before the mid 20th century and people were tipping well before that.

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/...lse_etymology/



This is similar to the urban legend where people say Sh*t was an acronym for Ship High in Transit or that Golf was an acronym for "Gentlemen only, ladies forbidden." Acronyms weren't used until the military began the trend in WWII and then it didn't spread through the rest of the country until well after that. Because of their ubiquity people incorrectly look for them in old words whose etymology is forgotten.

As for what to tip your hair stylist, I would tip her whatever she's worth. If she gives you a good haircut and you go back a lot, 20% or more should be good. I tipped a lot if she did a good job and was attractive. In fact I tipped attractive waitresses and stylists more than unattractive ones. This is incredibly prejudiced, obviously, but that was my practice.


I have to totally disagree with you. While I WAS working in the business (I personally do not care about your quotes from the 18 or 19th century) The Matre D (Who was raised in the business and made a living doing such) personally sat down with each new employee and explained what he expected from each employee and what tipping meant. He was the professional that explained what TIP stood for and that you had to work hard to EARN that extra benefit and it was direct reflection on not only your performance, but also on the establishment itself.

TIP's have to be earned and in the food industry that means food quality as well as the servers performance. If an employee is below average in doing their stated job, they should be compensated as such, On the other hand if the person goes above and beyond what you expect, you should reward them as such.

I will stand by my comments, I was shown the ropes by a gentleman who was at the top of the curve in the industry, running one of the very few true 5 star restaurants in Colorado. I will ignore quotes printed by a newspaper columnist from over a hundred years ago. Flame away.
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18% has been in place for about 20 years, maybe longer.

Tipping 15% at any proper tipping establishment is telling the server you were unhappy.

Tipping 18% is telling them it was fine.

Tipping 20% or more is telling them you appreciate their effort beyond the average server.
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18% has been in place for about 20 years, maybe longer.

Tipping 15% at any proper tipping establishment is telling the server you were unhappy.

Tipping 18% is telling them it was fine.

Tipping 20% or more is telling them you appreciate their effort beyond the average server.
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So a bartender who opens a crappy beer bottle gets near a 40% tip for a 2 second job? See, I don't know. I have tipped in that situation, but I have a hard time with it. Call me cheap.
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So a bartender who opens a crappy beer bottle gets near a 40% tip for a 2 second job? See, I don't know. I have tipped in that situation, but I have a hard time with it. Call me cheap.
I try to tip every other beer till I'm drunk then they get rich
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eh, go back to actor...its tried and true
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So a bartender who opens a crappy beer bottle gets near a 40% tip for a 2 second job? See, I don't know. I have tipped in that situation, but I have a hard time with it. Call me cheap.
I'm with you DD. It's "expected", but shouldn't be. I tip on the first beer/drink, but perhaps not on every one after that.
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I'm with you DD. It's "expected", but shouldn't be. I tip on the first beer/drink, but perhaps not on every one after that.
Well I mean if I'm sitting at the bar actually drinking than yeah, I'd leave a 20% tip on the final bill, but I was once at a club years ago and walked up to the beer bar and ordered one (overpriced) beer and got barked at by the skanky bartender for not tipping her for handing it to me.
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18% has been in place for about 20 years, maybe longer.

Tipping 15% at any proper tipping establishment is telling the server you were unhappy.

Tipping 18% is telling them it was fine.

Tipping 20% or more is telling them you appreciate their effort beyond the average server.
I am calling Bull ****. 15% is the expected amount to tip someone who did an average job. If you are going to get more fancy with a rating system then below average, average, above average you are over thinking it. By definition most waiters are average and deserve average compensation.
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