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Old 02-01-2013, 10:48 AM   #101
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Yes, I do. It's a fact. From 1921-2003 there only were seven minority head coaches hired by NFL/AFL franchises. Since 2003 NFL teams have hired eight minority head coaches. In the ten years since the rule's inception there have been more minority head coaches hired by NFL teams than there were in the previous 80 years combined.
In that same time you'll probably find that there has been a marked rise in black CEO's. In that time we've seen the first black president elected. You seem to be assuming that it is the Rooney rule and not a general shift in our society that is the cause. That's a pretty big assumption.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:53 AM   #102
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no tomlin went to an already good team and won the superbowl and cameron went to a crapper and sucked...

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:54 AM   #103
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In that same time you'll probably find that there has been a marked rise in black CEO's. In that time we've seen the first black president elected. You seem to be assuming that it is the Rooney rule and not a general shift in our society that is the cause. That's a pretty big assumption.
Corporate executive boards are not representative of the diversity of the American population at large.

The United States Senate just now for the first time in its history has two black members at the same time. Two, out of 100. Those two men were both appointed by the way.

American society has a long way to go before it reaches racial equality and the accomplishments of one extraordinary black man in the White House hasn't wiped that away.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:55 AM   #104
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no tomlin went to an already good team and won the superbowl and cameron went to a crapper and sucked...

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Feel free to assert that Cam Cameron, recently fired Ravens offensive coordinator is a capable NFL coach.

Meanwhile a guy that many in this thread have implied isn't qualified for an interview took over for Cameron and immediately improved the Ravens offense, including coaching them to a blowout of the highest paid defense in the league in Denver a couple weeks ago.
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Corporate executive boards are not representative of the diversity of the American population at large.

The United States Senate just now for the first time in its history has two black members at the same time. Two, out of 100. Those two men were both appointed by the way.

American society has a long way to go before it reaches racial equality and the accomplishments of one extraordinary black man in the White House hasn't wiped that away.
You completely missed my point. You are assuming a correlation is causal. It's a common mistake made by intellectually lazy people who have an agenda.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:03 AM   #106
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Feel free to assert that Cam Cameron, recently fired Ravens offensive coordinator is a capable NFL coach.

Meanwhile a guy that many in this thread have implied isn't qualified for an interview took over for Cameron and immediately improved the Ravens offense, including coaching them to a blowout of the highest paid defense in the league in Denver a couple weeks ago.
And Mike Singletary **** the bed. Seriously dude, your laughably simplistic takes on the matter hurt my head. There's a lot that goes into hiring a head coach and many teams make the wrong choice all the time. Just because a team doesn't hire a black head coach doesn't mean there is racism involved.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #107
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:07 AM   #108
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:08 AM   #109
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And Mike Singletary **** the bed. Seriously dude, your laughably simplistic takes on the matter hurt my head. There's a lot that goes into hiring a head coach and many teams make the wrong choice all the time. Just because a team doesn't hire a black head coach doesn't mean there is racism involved.
Another person with moron level reading comprehension. Noted.
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That is all...
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:55 PM   #111
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We will never achieve equality when some parts of society are granted extra advantages and benefits. People as a whole are far less motivated, creative, and hard-working than they were in years past due to an over-developed sense of entitlements and expectations of what's owed to them.
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We will never achieve equality when some parts of society are granted extra advantages and benefits.
Just to be clear, you're talking about white people right?
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As of 2011, 13.1% of America was black.

In 2012, 22% of NFL head coaches were black.

I don't see a problem.

According to those statistics, black head coaches are now over-represented, if anything.

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Old 02-01-2013, 04:23 PM   #114
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As of 2011, 13.1% of America was black.

In 2012, 22% of NFL head coaches were black.

I don't see a problem.

According to those statistics, black head coaches are now over-represented, if anything.
, you might want to reexamine your parameters there homie.

What percentage of NFL players are black?
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, you might want to reexamine your parameters there homie.

What percentage of NFL players are black?
Black NFL players are the only Americans interested in being an NFL coach?

BTW, your patronizing tone is grating and annoying.
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Black NFL players are the only Americans interested in being an NFL coach?

BTW, your patronizing tone is grating and annoying.
Oh, I'm really sorry if I've made the white privilege echo chamber here feel somewhat uncomfortable.
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Oh, I'm really sorry if I've made the white privilege echo chamber here feel somewhat uncomfortable.
Answer the question. Nobody cares how good your self-righteous diatribes make you feel.
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Answer the question. Nobody cares how good your self-righteous diatribes make you feel.
What question, your stupid question? The obvious answer is no.
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What question, your stupid question? The obvious answer is no.
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You've got some real issues, man.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:02 PM   #121
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As of 2011, 13.1% of America was black.

In 2012, 22% of NFL head coaches were black.

I don't see a problem.

According to those statistics, black head coaches are now over-represented, if anything.

I was going to say the same thing props.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:24 PM   #122
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What question, your stupid question? The obvious answer is no.
so...then you were wrong..great.
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The only person that I have called a racist is you, because you're insinuation is that the best black head coach available on the planet is not as good as the revolving door of mediocre white guys that NFL teams so regularly hire after their teams finish 2-14 or 4-12.


So please enlighten us on which unemployed black coaches have better resume's than Jeff Fisher, Andy Reid, and Mike Shanahan?

Coaches who make it to the Super Bowl are not considered mediocre.....they are considered good to exceptional. Guys like Mike Shanahan will continue to be hired because of their past accomplishments.....and experience. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with a more impressive resume.


FYI...black head coaches since the merger (including interim) are a combined 631-592-2 (.516) and have led their teams to 5 SB's (Tomlin 2, Dungy 1, Caldwell 1, Smith 1) winning 2

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I don't care what race you are. Clarence Thomas is a black skinned white supremacist.

You gave a racist opinion, you're a racist.
...and there it is! What we have here is a liberal on crusade.....well, let me send you on a worthwhile quest -

Instead of asking why there aren't more black head coaches, with the pct. of fatherless black children being born somewhere in the area of 65-75% maybe you should be asking why there aren't more black fathers.
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ThirtyDegrees said - If John Fox were named Juan Fox or Jerome Fox he wouldn't be an NFL head coach right now and the proof is that Jim Caldwell and Lovie Smith haven't been rehired as NFL coaches despite having the exact same qualifications that John Fox has.

Isn't using stereotypical names like "Juan" and "Jerome" a racist act?
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